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How will you be voting in the UKEU Referendum?
This poll is closed.
Remain - Keep Britane Strong! 328 15.40%
Leave - Take Are Sovreignity Back! 115 5.40%
Remain - But only because Brexit are crazy 506 23.76%
Leave - But only because the EU is terrible 157 7.37%
Spoiled Ballot - This whole thing is an awful idea 61 2.86%
I'm not going to vote 19 0.89%
I'm not allowed to vote 411 19.30%
Pissflaps 533 25.02%
Total: 2130 votes
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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

"Good morning Mr Livi--"

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Pesmerga
Aug 1, 2005

So nice to eat you
I'm not sure I can take three weeks more of 'IMMIGRATION IMMIGRANTS OUR NHS (which we want to privatise) IMMIGRATION IMMIGRATION ARE CUNTRY :byodood:'

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Frankie Boyle's piece makes a good point that the referendum campaign from the Remain group has been the economic case for staying in the EU even though there's a difference between a common market and a political union.

He's not arguing for leave, by the way, just pointing out that it's a bit of a weird thing to campaign on when there could be a positive case made for the political union bit.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Pesmerga posted:

I'm not sure I can take three weeks more of 'IMMIGRATION IMMIGRANTS OUR NHS (which we want to privatise) IMMIGRATION IMMIGRATION ARE CUNTRY :byodood:'

I have a game going of how long any Leave supporter can justify their reasoning to vote leave before they drop The I Word.

I think the record is around 2 or 3 bullet points.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Gyro Zeppeli posted:

I have a game going of how long any Leave supporter can justify their reasoning to vote leave before they drop The I Word.
Internationalism? :v:

Prince John
Jun 20, 2006

Oh, poppycock! Female bandits?

Can anyone explain the whole Kipper thing about some Kinnock conspiracy theory re. the EU? I keep seeing it crop up e.g.

quote:

I thought you would not want to be tied into a corrupt organisation that has not even had its accounts signed off for about 25 years, it is so bad. Neil Kinnock was supposed to sort it out and sacked the first whistleblower!!! Do we need to say more. The Kinnocks have ripped us off via EU for decades

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Gyro Zeppeli posted:

I have a game going of how long any Leave supporter can justify their reasoning to vote leave before they drop The I Word.

I think the record is around 2 or 3 bullet points.

For most leavers I know it's point number 1.

I haven't noticed people being coy at all. It's single issue: Immigrants are ruining the country and are responsible for everything wrong. They'll gladly destroy their own lives and economic security to punish these fuckers. They might regret it in a year but right now they're all for going down in one giant fireball in order to kill the immigrant scourge and make the smoking ruins of Britain great again.

I wonder how much better this country would be if it wasn't ruined by one of the vilest press machines in modern history. So many of the things wrong with our society is down to a hostile narrative kept simmering by the rags. I wonder if the concept of freedom of the press was ever meant to co-exist with such viralant hateful propaganda.

Regarde Aduck fucked around with this message at 10:22 on Jun 2, 2016

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Tesseraction posted:

Frankie Boyle's piece makes a good point that the referendum campaign from the Remain group has been the economic case for staying in the EU even though there's a difference between a common market and a political union.

He's not arguing for leave, by the way, just pointing out that it's a bit of a weird thing to campaign on when there could be a positive case made for the political union bit.

Only the Lib Dems could make the argument for the political union as a good thing, all the other national level parties and their base hate it for one reason or another.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

namesake posted:

Only the Lib Dems could make the argument for the political union as a good thing, all the other national level parties and their base hate it for one reason or another.

Doesn't ring a bell.

Oh, also the Tories' shitbag attempt to block the investigation into South Thanet has thankfully been struck down (via a granting of extension). The only problem here is this might mean Nigel Fromage has a legitimate reason to re-campaign and get into parliament, also giving him access to the Short money that he so griftingly craves.

Phoon
Apr 23, 2010

Regarde Aduck posted:

For most leavers I know it's point number 1.

I haven't noticed people being coy at all. It's single issue: Immigrants are ruining the country and are responsible for everything wrong. They'll gladly destroy their own lives and economic security to punish these fuckers. They might regret it in a year but right now they're all for going down in one giant fireball in order to kill the immigrant scourge and make the smoking ruins of Britain great again.

I wonder how much better this country would be if it wasn't ruined by one of the vilest press machines in modern history. So many of the things wrong with our society is down to a hostile narrative kept simmering by the rags. I wonder if the concept of freedom of the press was ever meant to co-exist with such viralant hateful propaganda.

yeah it's the whole point of freedom of the press, most people can't afford a press

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

It's not freedom of the press. The press is monopolised and primarily in the hands of three families, two of them landed gentry and the other an Australian billionaire. All three of which heavily lean upon editorial output. The other papers - think the Express and the Indie, likewise.

Pravda was just as free of a press.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Phoon posted:

yeah it's the whole point of freedom of the press, most people can't afford a press
They're getting cheaper though.

By which I mean there are internet news sources reflecting views that would have previously been restricted to typewriter-and-photocopier 'zines being passed around at protests (of both the good but non-mainstream and the batshit insane variety) that actually seem to get reasonable circulation going by my experience. Whether anyone pays attention to them or whether that will just lead to people being stuck in their own filter bubbles I don't know though.

e: Speaking of the press and things that get filtered out, I wouldn't have heard about this at all if I were just relying on print media and didn't get linked it by a friend; it seems to have been made into a non-story by the trad. press.
https://thesecretbarrister.com/2016/05/27/its-official-the-criminal-justice-system-is-broken-and-no-one-seems-to-care/

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3RlP6lDg2s

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

lol that's such a pathetic hiss it's like one guy feebly doing it

I'm sure this will be reported as MISOGYNISTIC ANTISEMITES SWARM KUERNSBERG WITH SCORN AS SHE TRIES TO ASK REASONABLE QUESTION

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/CourtNewsUK/status/738306704044089344

Never mind the jail boys the lad's taken a pure beamer an that's aw the punishment that's needed for child porn apparently.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
If that's the one that came up very recently in the Paedogeddon thread then there's a bit more to it than that, like it not being certain whether the pictures that he had were even indecent at all, let alone child abuse.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Guavanaut posted:

They're getting cheaper though.

By which I mean there are internet news sources reflecting views that would have previously been restricted to typewriter-and-photocopier 'zines being passed around at protests (of both the good but non-mainstream and the batshit insane variety) that actually seem to get reasonable circulation going by my experience. Whether anyone pays attention to them or whether that will just lead to people being stuck in their own filter bubbles I don't know though.

e: Speaking of the press and things that get filtered out, I wouldn't have heard about this at all if I were just relying on print media and didn't get linked it by a friend; it seems to have been made into a non-story by the trad. press.
https://thesecretbarrister.com/2016/05/27/its-official-the-criminal-justice-system-is-broken-and-no-one-seems-to-care/

The media does seem to ignore basically any news to do with lawyers or the justice system. Wasn't there a barristers strike recently over legal aid that the entire media basically ignored?

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Like most Onion knockoffs, the Daily Mash is very hit and miss, but I liked this.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Guavanaut posted:

If that's the one that came up very recently in the Paedogeddon thread then there's a bit more to it than that, like it not being certain whether the pictures that he had were even indecent at all, let alone child abuse.

If yer downloading pictures of weans in bikinis then there's very little doubt about what you're doing with it.

Serotonin
Jul 14, 2001

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of *blank*

Guavanaut posted:

If that's the one that came up very recently in the Paedogeddon thread then there's a bit more to it than that, like it not being certain whether the pictures that he had were even indecent at all, let alone child abuse.

He was found guilty.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

They actually successfully used the public humiliation defence hahahahaha.

"Yeah, I crank it to children, but hey, I've been KINKSHAMED about my predatory behaviour."

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Gonzo McFee posted:

If yer downloading pictures of weans in bikinis then there's very little doubt about what you're doing with it.

Correct. Even if he wasn't found guilty, what kind of loving excuse could you have for pictures of 12 year olds in bikinis? The public humiliation defence is a loving joke and whoever authorized it needs to be locked up as well for enabling pedos.

Serotonin
Jul 14, 2001

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of *blank*
There was a toff last year who was found guilty of GBH iirc and walked free due to 'public shame to his family name' being punishment enough.

In other justice for the rich news.

http://courtnewsuk.co.uk/cleared-harrassment-millionaire-branded-rape-accuser-prostitute/?fb_ref=Pa5Tjy4GtA-Twitter

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Serotonin posted:

There was a toff last year who was found guilty of GBH iirc and walked free due to 'public shame to his family name' being punishment enough.

In other justice for the rich news.

http://courtnewsuk.co.uk/cleared-harrassment-millionaire-branded-rape-accuser-prostitute/?fb_ref=Pa5Tjy4GtA-Twitter

Ah, to be able to afford good lawyers.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
The rich aren't beaten until they're running for their lives.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Gonzo McFee posted:

The rich aren't beaten until they're running for their lives.

Clearly if they're able to run you haven't beaten them hard enough.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Serotonin posted:

He was found guilty.
Different case then? Which means there are multiple Cameron advisers involved in cases of indecency concerning children.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Guavanaut posted:

Different case then? Which means there are multiple Cameron advisers involved in cases of indecency concerning children.

tories you say

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Guavanaut posted:

Different case then? Which means there are multiple Cameron advisers involved in cases of indecency concerning children.

Only the ones who've been caught.

Serotonin
Jul 14, 2001

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of *blank*

Guavanaut posted:

Different case then? Which means there are multiple Cameron advisers involved in cases of indecency concerning children.

No same case. He was cleared on 3 charges , acquitted on 5 and jury couldn't reach a decision on another 12

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Serotonin posted:

No same case. He was cleared on 3 charges , acquitted on 5 and jury couldn't reach a decision on another 12

loving how.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Miftan posted:

loving how.

Money.

Serotonin
Jul 14, 2001

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of *blank*

Miftan posted:

loving how.

I know weird innit. How could someone with money in a position of power in the highest level of government get away without punishment after being convicted of a revolting crime? I've no idea how this could happen.

Ffs

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Maybe we just need to accept that the rich are our betters in every way and that they should be above the law.

After all, they possess the Divine Right of Job Creators.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Obviously money and being Cameron's pig loving buddy. Do we know what they actually claimed in court? I don't think 'Your honour my client has put his penis in a dead pig' holds up in court regardless of how much they want it to. Also I'm very unfamiliar with the English justice system so it might, I guess?

Not Operator
Jan 1, 2009

Not A doctor, THE Doctor!
He tripped and fell onto his mouse.

Not Operator
Jan 1, 2009

Not A doctor, THE Doctor!
Possibly also dick first.

Serotonin
Jul 14, 2001

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of *blank*

Miftan posted:

Obviously money and being Cameron's pig loving buddy. Do we know what they actually claimed in court? I don't think 'Your honour my client has put his penis in a dead pig' holds up in court regardless of how much they want it to. Also I'm very unfamiliar with the English justice system so it might, I guess?

I don't think the rich and powerful getting away with crimes is particularly curious to the UK legal system.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Serotonin posted:

I don't think the rich and powerful getting away with crimes is particularly curious to the UK legal system.

I'm aware, I just can't possibly imagine what kind of defence these assholes thought up that literally nobody picked up on as being a stupid cover up for some bribes or blackmail or something.

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Serotonin
Jul 14, 2001

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of *blank*
They didn't need a defence. The judge let him off with no punishment after being found guilty.

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