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How will you be voting in the UKEU Referendum?
This poll is closed.
Remain - Keep Britane Strong! 328 15.40%
Leave - Take Are Sovreignity Back! 115 5.40%
Remain - But only because Brexit are crazy 506 23.76%
Leave - But only because the EU is terrible 157 7.37%
Spoiled Ballot - This whole thing is an awful idea 61 2.86%
I'm not going to vote 19 0.89%
I'm not allowed to vote 411 19.30%
Pissflaps 533 25.02%
Total: 2130 votes
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Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

Jose posted:

i hear its what american service staff get paid or something because tips make up the rest

Apprentices get something like £3.30 an hour I think

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Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

Baron Corbyn posted:

Dennis Skinner is voting Leave

What the gently caress, why

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

Gorn Myson posted:

I know the press is saying so far that Remain has possibly edged it, but what does the thread think so far? I've been at work most of the day so I've missed a lot of stuff.

I'm still not sure why the press would know any more than the rest of us.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
Well poo poo.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

Junior G-man posted:

Salmond's already calling for a second referendum.

Doesn't he always do that though

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
Maybe that's the way out of this mess. General election contest where candidates declare their remain/leave intentions, and if a remain candidate wins they can refrain from triggering article 50 because obviously people wouldn't have voted for them in the election if they wanted to leave.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

peanut- posted:

Why is there this conviction that the Labour members still support Corbyn? Outside of the confines of this thread my impression is that most of the people who voted for him have given up hope of him suddenly becoming competent and realised what a massive mistake it was.

Every labour member I know supports him and wants the PLP to fall in line or quit.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

Flatscan posted:

You first.

Yeah, seriously.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
We already have home-grown terrorists killing members of parliament. That doesn't mean we should do what they want.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
UKIP dirty. Polish.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

Acaila posted:

Rumours on twitter that the PLP are trying to draft Peter Mandelson to run against Corbyn?! Is he even an MP?

I'm not sure he's even human.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

Arkane posted:

Being reported that Corbyn will lose the no confidence motion, but Corbyn is going to ignore it and continue on.

Amazing.

MPs don't get to decide who the leader is, the party members do.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

Semprini posted:

Good, about time the rich paid their shahahahahaha no sorry I can't keep a straight face.

But I thought tax cuts for the rich were the way out of recessions

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

stephenfry posted:

what the gently caress does anyone vaguely left have to be disillusioned by when it comes to Corbyn?

He hasn't had a chance to do anything yet

I agree with the sentiment, since he could've gotten much more done with his MPs backing, but here's a guy tweeting a list of things Corbyn's done as leader.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

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domhal posted:

If the vote of no confidence doesn't really do anything, what ability does the PLP have to trigger a Labor leadership election?

Well, they can certainly get 50 MPs to nominate an alternative leader. The trouble is that Corbyn will defeat them in the membership vote.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

tekz posted:

If Corbyn sticks around despite the no confidence, he's clearly uninterested in the will of the people he claims to represent.

The vote doesn't represent the "will of the people". It represents some leftover Blairites who lost the leadership election and can't let that go.

Edit: poo poo, you're a homophobe and a troll. Guess you got me. Good job.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

Deptfordx posted:

I acknowledge all that. I just don't see how day to day, someone can actually lead the party in the House, if 80% of them have no faith in him and just want him gone.

You get to the next general election (it could be closer than you think), deselect the Blairites, and the membership elect some democratic socialists instead.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

ThomasPaine posted:

Most importantly though, I'll take a weakened but socialist Labour over a powerful centre-right Labour any day. There is zero point in them getting into government if they're a hollow shell aping Tory policy but putting on a sad face while they do it.

This. I'll definitely leave the party if the coup succeeds.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

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Wait a second. Aren't we EU nationals?

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

keep punching joe posted:

Question for Labour goons. If I registered as a Labour supporter to vote for Corbyn and managed to avoid the great purge, does that mean I get to vote for him again?

Well, there'd have to be a leadership contest first.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
Yeah, maybe you should research that one.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
Can you backstab someone you worked with for so long so brazenly and still get voted in as leader of the tory party? I would've thought it would kill your popularity, but I've never really understood tories.

Perhaps Murdoch ordered the assassination to clear the way for May.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

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Tigey posted:

An unpopular opinion in post Brexit Britain

And pre-Brexit Britain, where we live

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

Vitamin P posted:

Just because it's becoming a bit tedious, we aren't terribly attached to Corbyn, it's not a dear leader thing, it's a left wing policies being allowed in the left wing party thing. If Abbott or McDonnell were replacing him that would be grand. The personal attacks against him won't land at all.

And there's nothing even slightly anti-semitic about the statement.

I don't think so, actually. It would prove that the utterly despicable behaviour we've seen from the PLP is effective and should be rewarded. It isn't, and it shouldn't be.

Edit: I agree with the rest of the quoted statement wholeheartedly.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
So what country are you guys going to pretend to be from next time you're on holiday?

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
I'm sure I can cross the Irish Sea in a people-smuggling boat

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

Jose posted:

having an accent helps. southerners all think i'm welsh for some reason


its a bit old but wihle cameron was in south africa on a trip paid for by a pro-apartheid organisation





Back then all police were monopeds, it's good of Corbyn to prop them up

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

Vitamin P posted:

My favourite part of the Cameron Tragedy is that he thought he was anything without his pet papers. The one time he fought a campaign without them he lost.

Turns out he was the pet all along.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

Ewan posted:

I honestly don't know. Leadership of the labour party seems to be a poison chalice at the moment. While I say Corbyn is not cut out to be leader, that is not purely a criticism of him. Leadership has two parts - the leader and the led. I expect the vast majority of other potentials are also not cut out for it. But, some of the natural (and necessary) traits of a good political leader, such as charisma and charm, are specifically missing from Corbyn's toolset.

Any left-wing leader would get the same treatment Corbyn would. They're not against him, they're against the idea of the Labour party being left-wing.

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Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
I'd say it's less that democracy is a problem and more that rich people own all the media and use it to spread racist propaganda leading to poor people voting against their own best interests.

So it's more that money is inherently anti-democratic. One man one vote, but I get a giant megaphone that reaches millions of people and you get to cup your hands and shout.

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