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haha you idiot dont do a good job on it they will just keep using you please exercise learned helplessness until they give the project to someone else
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Iridium posted:i got press-ganged into being a project manager for one of our annual things a month ago (because yet another PM has quit) Haha dude you're so hosed, have fun doing that forever.
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do PMs make more figgies than developers?
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Corla Plankun posted:do PMs make more figgies than developers? emphatically no product managers on the other hand do but that's a whole different job and you usually need an mba [even though lots of orgs saddle them with project management duties as well]
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Mad Wack posted:haha you idiot dont do a good job on it they will just keep using you ah, i see youve heard of my powerpoint skills
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I think the overall average is lower for project managers than devs, but the ceiling may be higher pms also tend to get poo poo on wayyy more than individual developers, often due to mgmt giving impossible or contradictory requirements and timeframes. I don't think it would make sense to go the pm direction unless you can't hack it as a developer or they're preemptively backing up a truckload of figgies Clockwerk fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Oct 5, 2017 |
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PM is a thankless role because you have to attend all the meetings with executives who demand things of you, and then you have to get a team of developers and testers to build those things, but the developers and testers don't report to you and really couldn't care less about your metrics graphs. a good PM is great to have but they're few and far between, all but the most masochistic people end up switching to other roles
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speaking of PMs, mine is set on meeting for everything and they actively discourage email chains to resolve issues. their meetings frequently run over by 30 minutes and they use only offline docs for planning. we have bug reporting tools but they insist on sharepoint because ??? which makes every call run over because of course their system is slow
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JewKiller 3000 posted:a good PM is great to have but they're few and far between, all but the most masochistic people end up switching to other roles one awesome PM I worked with kept dept hopping and I wish I could have followed her because I never saw someone crack heads and get things on track so well
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Oct 5, 2017 01:04
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a good pm is so good 
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i am on three projects with the worst pm i've known. he's obviously being coached by more senior people but it isn't working. he was stuck in a prior meeting once and so joined a call about 5 minutes late. *beDEEP* ^ 15 as we all connect at once a teammate of his says "let's do a roll call since there's so many of us" he says "got it. ...  OKAY WHO'S HERE?"
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Oct 5, 2017 01:45
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Dial into bridge "Please enter your meeting I.D." *beep boop beee dung dong boop* "You did not enter any numbers" lol
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AtomD posted:next week at microsoft ignite they might tell people who spent a shitton of money and time investing in skype for business infrastructure just how they can gently caress off to teams this was good btw they said sfb usage doubled yoy then explained how they plan to kill it anyone had to use that polycom clariti poo poo before?
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good lord i'm on a troubleshooting call (loving owned) and it's rapidly devolving into The Nightmare Telecon
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featuring: BOOP BEEP every 10 seconds, causing the sitrep to be started over kid in the background yelling "WHO IS THAT" poor audio quality re-interpretation of the problem every 15 seconds people talking past each other
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Oct 25, 2017 00:54
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hosting a webex and not having any option for audio other than pstn dial-in
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Just lol if you don't pretend you got randomly disconnected from calls that suck.
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i dropped out after about six minutes of the host asking people to mute themselves
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Thanks Ants posted:i dropped out after about six minutes of the host asking people to mute themselves How loving hard is it to set "Mute Entry/Exit Sounds" and "Mute On Entry"? WebEx call hosting is a serious responsibility. Step the gently caress up. 
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i imagine the bar for not loving up the defaults and the bar for being able to use a usb headset are the same height
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Thanks Ants posted:hosting a webex and not having any option for audio other than pstn dial-in some of the fogeys here have taken to putting a large DO NOT JOIN THE MEETING AUDIO in their meeting invites, even though it works completely fine and they never notice people using it anyway
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if they don't start the webex by logging in as the presenter (either thru the client or phone pin) then people cant get in from the desktop client which means no computer audio. webex allows you to dial into the pstn side of the bridge without the presenter starting it so that's what those old people do. then you get the situation where everyone is waiting for the meeting to start on their clients and the old person gets all huffy because the phone is good enough and he doesn't understand why people cant just do that.
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but in the end it doesn't matter because the webex computer audio is trash full of super aggressive disconnection poo poo that will gently caress you up if you're too quiet or mute using something other than the webex client mute.
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Shaggar posted:if they don't start the webex by logging in as the presenter (either thru the client or phone pin) then people cant get in from the desktop client which means no computer audio. webex allows you to dial into the pstn side of the bridge without the presenter starting it so that's what those old people do. a) it's not webex b) that's not how it works, if the presenter wants to share screen (they always do in these calls) i think they have to start the meeting audio too. if they have to start it manually that's even more laughable because they're consciously starting something they don't want anyone to use
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oh you're talking about the ones who use their own 3rd party bridge because its the one that has the same pin every time. if the presenter joins in webex or GoToMeeting via the client everything is started so those should work.
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Shaggar posted:oh you're talking about the ones who use their own 3rd party bridge because its the one that has the same pin every time. no, i mean our (current) preferred conference system is not webex. has nothing to do with webex.
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never ever buy anything made by avaya. that is all
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NEED MORE MILK posted:never ever buy anything made by avaya. Avaya has been working to make this a reality for themselves for a while now.
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We replaced all our old Nortel phones with Avaya stuff about a year ago. I think my favourite glitch with them is when you pick up the reciever and the call never gets connected, the phone just keeps on ringing.
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i dont see why anybody could make even the most cursory of glances at the avaya product lineup in the last five years and determine that it's worth spending money on. i have their lovely softphone app on my iphone and it uses the pre-ios7 ui design and doesnt support callkit so it just constantly keeps a connection alive, loving the battery.
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the answer is incompetence like im not even on the IT side of things but im prob gonna write up a proposal and do a fuckload of research and try and get us moved over to freepbx or something.
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if you write a proposal to move phone provider then make it a proposal to give somebody else money to deal with it. gently caress dealing with phones.
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thats what we did 3 years ago and they pushed avaya on us (i was not employed here at the time)
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Oct 25, 2017 21:07
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unless its your job then just keep quiet about it
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we use a hosted mitel system and i would not recommend it
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we use a pile of ancient but reliable cisco phones, some tp ones nobody uses the camera on, and a mix of jabber and proper tps i honestly couldnt care less because i use my cell to dial in and use a not lovely headset and walk away from my desk when the call is boring (always) and stretch my legs oh but we use skype4biz so our screenshares are wet diarrhea on a soft tortilla
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i never thought id say this but adobe connect is so good by comparison
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Agile Vector posted:i never thought id say this but adobe connect is so good by comparison The Forbidden Phrase...
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Current Cisco phones cannot transfer calls from non-primary lines if the handset is picked up before the line is selected. Also picking up the handset will answer the non primary line. 👍
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call into meeting loudly interrupt to shout your own name stay off mute while you rearrange literally everything in your office to be within 6 centimeters of your speakerphone
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