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Terrorforge
Dec 22, 2013

More of a furnace, really

HORMELCHILI posted:

Ever since installing the donuts thing and cannabis commonwealth every single lunchbox has a fat blunt and a bag of donut mix

This legitimately makes more worldbuilding sense than the vanilla loot distribution

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Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


For anyone wanting a decent balance mod, check out the unbogus series. The dude takes the totally bogus mechanics of Fallout 4 and makes them gnarly.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007


Cybernetic Crumb

Arcsquad12 posted:

For anyone wanting a decent balance mod, check out the unbogus series. The dude takes the totally bogus mechanics of Fallout 4 and makes them gnarly.

How is that anyway? I spotted it when I was like level 97 in my last playthrough and didn't want to add new things at that point, and my most recent playthrough is Horizon so I wasn't about to add other balance mods

Also, for anyone that's been excited about it, Fallout Cascadia has an official teaser trailer up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1jeloS2s_w

Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


Azhais posted:

How is that anyway? I spotted it when I was like level 97 in my last playthrough and didn't want to add new things at that point, and my most recent playthrough is Horizon so I wasn't about to add other balance mods


Right now I'm just using his Unbogus Health Scaling and Unbogus Health Ranges standalones. Cuts out the massive health buildup at late levels that makes everyone a bullet sponge, and limits the bullet sponge enemies to those who already have high DR and health stats to begin with. This also makes weapon damage and armor way more important, since headshots are much more lethal when you're only running around with 200 health.

I haven't tried his Unbogus Ranged Weapons mod yet, but it looks like it adds proper projectile ballistics and redesigns the flamer to be more of a liquid napalm streamer. Looks really neat.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

You see it works on two levels because the collective noun for owls is a parliament and also he's an idiot.


The best flamer in a fallout game, and a contender for the best flamer in any game, is the incinerator from F3.

Because it's a flamethrower that also doubles as long range artillery.

I have no idea why it wasn't a mod option for the F4 flamer.

Brainamp
Sep 4, 2011

More Zen than Zenyatta



Is there a mod that replaces DR with DT?

Brainamp fucked around with this message at May 21, 2018 around 22:11

Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


Brainamp posted:

Is there a mod that replaces DR with DT?

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/7573

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/11227

The second requires the first, I believe.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me



This went "hidden."

xanthan
Jan 23, 2012



So how's the Sim Settlements/Horizon patch? Love Sim Settlements and am curious if its an ok thing to keep in the firs time I do Horizon. Also, anyone got advice on starting in Horizon?

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Imagine growing a flower



Buglord

xanthan posted:

Also, anyone got advice on starting in Horizon?

-Tag the required items needed for bandages since you'll be using those a bunch.
-Ditto for radaway. best treatment for radiation is not getting radiation in the first place, because curing it is ridiculously expensive.
-keep another game installed for the times you get stuck in a respawning loop because raiders are camped at your settlement
-Make sure you have a variety of weapons using different ammo, because you'll always be running out of it. melee weapons are actually a good moneysaving bet, because you can solo any super-mutant as long as you time your blocks right.
-keep a pillow near your desk to scream in when 80% of your health is capped because of rads

i need tips too because this mod is going to murder me through stress induced stroke

Nevets
Sep 11, 2002

Be they sad or be they well,
I'll make their lives a hell


Radoff is the poor man's radaway and only requires survivalist 1, some glowing fungus, melons (I think), and hubflowers. Make a whole bunch and eat two or three before you go to bed (make sure to wait until the effect wears off before taking the next dose or sleeping).

Also look into making a gas mask, it gives you a 50% ap refresh penalty but is an upgradable rad resistance item, I think it starts out at like 50 resist and goes up from there.

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008



xanthan posted:

So how's the Sim Settlements/Horizon patch? Love Sim Settlements and am curious if its an ok thing to keep in the firs time I do Horizon. Also, anyone got advice on starting in Horizon?

It... works? But they aren't super well-integrated. You'll most likely basically be treating them as separate parts of the game - let Sim Settlements do its "Rise of the Commonwealth" thing, throw a few Horizon specific stations into the unused areas, etc.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007


Cybernetic Crumb

The automated settlements sim settlements puts up are pretty user unfriendly to add stuff to. Tightly packed, hard to navigate in a lot of cases. I don't know that I'd want to combine them other than for the ease of tossing down residences. And as far as that goes the architect houses from horizon itself have clutter and beds and work well enough, just slap up a warehouse for your engineer stations

Incoming Chinchilla
Apr 2, 2010


I have most settlements as Sims, but am using the drive-in, Covenant and Spectacle Island as Horizon work hubs for missions etc

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam
Never be afraid of being yourself!

buglord posted:

-Tag the required items needed for bandages since you'll be using those a bunch.
-Ditto for radaway. best treatment for radiation is not getting radiation in the first place, because curing it is ridiculously expensive.
-keep another game installed for the times you get stuck in a respawning loop because raiders are camped at your settlement
-Make sure you have a variety of weapons using different ammo, because you'll always be running out of it. melee weapons are actually a good moneysaving bet, because you can solo any super-mutant as long as you time your blocks right.
-keep a pillow near your desk to scream in when 80% of your health is capped because of rads

i need tips too because this mod is going to murder me through stress induced stroke

Protectrons should be stripped of leg armor and they'll tip right over. Then you can get out your bat or whatever.

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008



Chronojam posted:

Protectrons should be stripped of leg armor and they'll tip right over. Then you can get out your bat or whatever.

Attacking weak points in general is pretty key. On humans it's not a huge deal since body shots are still significant, but on a lot of other species they have very high damage reduction except on their weak points. Not all the weak spots are obvious, either - on synths for example, it's their limbs, not their head. Any time you run into something new you should check it out in VATS and see which part will take the most damage if you shoot it.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Imagine growing a flower



Buglord

Terrorforge posted:

I think both Horizon and Sim Settlements can put some strain on your system, but I never had intolerable problems with them, at least not when playing off an SSD. I guess maybe We Are The Minutemen might be doing something? I'm not really familiar with it.

The one thing I notice is that as a rule, you should not load any mods after Horizon. I don't see how it would cause this specific problem, but generally you want:
(mod)
(Horizon)
(mod_Horizon_patch)

Speaking of, you may want to consider using the aptch for WATM.

Would LOOT work? Im having a hell of a time trying to manually adjust load order because I cant put certain files before other ones. Also I have no idea what makes ESPs or ESMs different.

buglord fucked around with this message at May 24, 2018 around 02:35

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007


Cybernetic Crumb

Loot will arrange it at the top, but you can edit the metadata inside loot to increase it's priority

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Imagine growing a flower



Buglord

what the hell it turns out the 3 minute load times were due to vsync being on during loading? I went from 3 minutes to literally 4-8 seconds. what the hell

Terrorforge
Dec 22, 2013

More of a furnace, really

buglord posted:

Would LOOT work? Im having a hell of a time trying to manually adjust load order because I cant put certain files before other ones. Also I have no idea what makes ESPs or ESMs different.

LOOT does not work well with Horizon.

ESMs are "master files", which more or less means they force themselves to the top of your load order. This is useful for stuff like AWKCR, Sim Settlements or indeed Z_Architect, because they're "core" files that other files hook into. This way there's no risk of someone accidentally making a load order of like
sims_expac_2
sim_settlements
sims_expac_1

I think there are developer-side advantages as well, but that's beyond my understanding. In any case, even if you could move those files you shouldn't, so just leave them at the top.

Are there other files you can't move? What manager are you using?

Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


buglord posted:

what the hell it turns out the 3 minute load times were due to vsync being on during loading? I went from 3 minutes to literally 4-8 seconds. what the hell

Can we still use the forced vsync trick through the Nvidia control panel? You really should keep vsync on in some capacity because animation speed is tied to framerate for bizarre reasons in this game.

beyonder
Jun 23, 2007
Beyond hardcore.

Arcsquad12 posted:

Can we still use the forced vsync trick through the Nvidia control panel? You really should keep vsync on in some capacity because animation speed is tied to framerate for bizarre reasons in this game.

This mod disables vsync on loading screens. Its a bit twitchy and stops working randomly, might be okay on next loading screen or might have to relaunch the game.

Kiggles
Dec 30, 2007


Arcsquad12 posted:

Can we still use the forced vsync trick through the Nvidia control panel? You really should keep vsync on in some capacity because animation speed is tied to framerate for bizarre reasons in this game.

No. It's tied to framerate. Turning off vsync speeds loading time because whatever the engine is doing loading is done per frame - so if a certain load would technically take a 10,000 frames to accomplish, that would be roughly 2.75 minutes at 60fps, but if you're drawing the load screen at 500FPS, you're down to less than 1 second. Give or take a second or two for whatever pre-post load work that is irrespective of frame rate, and there you go. ~3minute loads down to 2-3 seconds.

As beyonder mentioned, there's a mod for that, and here is an alternative that will also (optionally) dynamically adjust shadow and/or God Ray distance/quality to maintain performance at whatever framerate you're targeting. https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/28143 Not sure whether these should(n't) be used together, but they're safe to uninstall and switch around if you want to try one or the other.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Imagine growing a flower



Buglord

beyonder posted:

This mod disables vsync on loading screens. Its a bit twitchy and stops working randomly, might be okay on next loading screen or might have to relaunch the game.

Yeah this is exactly the one Iím using and itís good

HORMELCHILI
Jan 13, 2010



is there any way to fix the thing where missing mod content can cause like stuttering/or like 2-3 second pauses while the game loads while walking around? I mean i assume its missing mod content/the save being corrupted in some way but im not positive

Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


I don't know if it's missing mod content or the engine struggling to generate the terrain fast enough.

Kiggles
Dec 30, 2007


HORMELCHILI posted:

is there any way to fix the thing where missing mod content can cause like stuttering/or like 2-3 second pauses while the game loads while walking around? I mean i assume its missing mod content/the save being corrupted in some way but im not positive

Sounds more like you're just pushing your vram too hard - what video card are you using, and (roughy) how many texture packs of what sort of texture resolution are you using?

Mikedawson
Jun 21, 2013



This isn't really a big one, but are there any mods that improve melee and make it more viable in the long term?

Terrorforge
Dec 22, 2013

More of a furnace, really

What was that one mod that made it so you can only use heavy weapons while you're in PA?

Schubalts
Nov 25, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life,
I think I've gone too far.


Mikedawson posted:

This isn't really a big one, but are there any mods that improve melee and make it more viable in the long term?

This mod rebalances most of the weapons in the game.

quote:

Melee weapons in general
- Some modifications (especially adding blades to blunt weapon) have a more pronounced effect.
- Also, some modification made more powerful at the cost of additional perk requirements.
For instance, knuckles with long blades require Blacksmith 3, but now they are a pretty deadly weapon, which makes them viable later in a game.

And this mod improves the Shishkabob, which the above mod does not touch..

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ApeHawk
Jun 6, 2010

All the NPCs will look up and shout, "Do this quest!"
and I'll whisper, "Sure, why not."


God, I hope this mod comes out someday.

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