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That's basically the movie (they are, indeed, actual vampires). The ending as far as i remember was that she couldn't handle Elle Fanning's pure unbusted-vagina beauty inside her wretched bitchy fake non-beautiful body. Something something male gaze, LA is a jungle, you'll get eaten alive, etc etc.
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Oh right, she was the one that liked having all the plastic surgery. I guess my main gripe is that I was just bored with any scene that didn't have Keanu Reeves.
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Dec 16, 2016 03:25
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There were some really good scenes that would function in a David Lynch film (the catwalk tryout) but Refn is such a huge wimp that he can't live up to the promise of real violence or outright campiness, and instead settles on the subdued, tasteful version.
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Dec 16, 2016 03:29
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Magic Hate Ball posted:There were some really good scenes that would function in a David Lynch film (the catwalk tryout) but Refn is such a huge wimp that he can't live up to the promise of real violence or outright campiness, and instead settles on the subdued, tasteful version. The Neon Demon is both campy and violent. Your complaints about this movie are limp and uninteresting. Go away.
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Dec 16, 2016 03:34
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The main theme of a sheep among wolves wasn't very strong to me. The main girl didn't have to fight for anything. She just allowed the world to happen to her aside from refusing Ruby's advances. She's a blank stand-in that I didn't care about at all.
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Dec 16, 2016 03:34
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Super Fan posted:The Neon Demon is both campy and violent. Your complaints about this movie are limp and uninteresting. Go away. No, i'm going to stay here and furiously masturbate.
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Dec 16, 2016 03:34
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Magic Hate Ball posted:No, i'm going to stay here and furiously masturbate. I want you to vividly describe your masturbation session. It can't be as bad as you posting about movies.
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Dec 16, 2016 03:36
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Super Fan posted:I want you to vividly describe your masturbation session. It can't be as bad as you posting about movies. Depends on how many Arby's Beef 'n' Cheddars I've had.
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Dec 16, 2016 03:57
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Depends on how many Arby's Beef 'n' Cheddars I've had. You're no long reiterating the same point over and over again. You're making some progress Magic Hate Ball!
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Dec 16, 2016 04:01
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Super Fan posted:You're no long reiterating the same point over and over again. You're making some progress Magic Hate Ball! here i go
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Dec 16, 2016 04:03
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It's ok to dislike a movie.
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Dec 16, 2016 04:16
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shut up it's time for arbys
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Dec 16, 2016 04:21
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Inzombiac posted:I rented this after being enamoured with the marketing materials. It's not the most narratively satisfying movie. It's not apparently Refn's thing, outside of Bronson and Drive.
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Dec 16, 2016 20:19
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Shageletic posted:It's not the most narratively satisfying movie. It's not apparently Refn's thing, outside of Bronson and Drive. I'm gonna watch Spring Breakers and Neon Demon back to back and call it the Narrative Can Blow Me, Give Me All The Neon Lighting Double Feature. Because narrative can blow me, give me all the neon lighting.
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Dec 17, 2016 07:31
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Hey, Spring Breakers is excellent.
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Dec 17, 2016 07:35
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I still think Valhalla Rising is Refn's best, y'all should watch it.
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Dec 17, 2016 22:31
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Inzombiac posted:The main theme of a sheep among wolves wasn't very strong to me. I don't think this is accurate; the sheep among wolves theme is a surface level interpretation, let alone the main theme of the movie. Refn makes it a point to establish that she's self-made (Via forging parental signatures) and the sequence with the gold paint shows her having a quasi religious experience. Dean becomes frustrated when she doesn't leave with him because he believes he knows the real her. You are Dean.
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Dec 17, 2016 22:42
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something something gilding a lily
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Dec 17, 2016 22:52
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Magic Hate Ball posted:something something gilding a lily something something lazy poster blah blah blah
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Dec 17, 2016 22:54
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Magic Hate Ball posted:something something gilding a lily I honestly don't understand what you mean, how is this an example of gilding the lily?
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Dec 18, 2016 01:21
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She's a beautiful perfect model and he's pouring gold on her. She is her own perfection, she doesn't need a dude pouring his own vision on her. She's as perfect as the stark triangle she sees on the catwalk. It's just a connective image. It also looks neat.
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Dec 18, 2016 02:52
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She does need his vision. He's a gatekeeper of fame and fortune. "I can't sing, I can't dance, I can't write... no real talent. But I'm pretty, and I can make money off pretty. "
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Dec 18, 2016 03:48
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Yeah, but not on the more mythical levell, it's only because of her fatal flaw (her need to be seen) that he and her audience are necessary. What's the point of being perfect if nobody notices? It's standard witchy fairytale stuff.
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Dec 18, 2016 03:59
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Hey, Spring Breakers is excellent. I was being 100% genuine there, I loving love Spring Breakers. It is one of my favorite movies.
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Dec 18, 2016 05:43
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Yeah, but not on the more mythical levell, it's only because of her fatal flaw (her need to be seen) that he and her audience are necessary. What's the point of being perfect if nobody notices? It's standard witchy fairytale stuff. This is a very uninteresting take and really did not need to be expressed. Humans are social creatures and it's part of our survival instinct to want to be desired. A big theme of the movie was how primal the nature of beauty is.
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Dec 18, 2016 20:19
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KVeezy3 posted:This is a very uninteresting take and really did not need to be expressed. Humans are social creatures and it's part of our survival instinct to want to be desired. That's literally half the plot of the movie, that she's mythically perfect.
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Dec 18, 2016 20:21
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Magic Hate Ball posted:That's literally half the plot of the movie, that she's mythically perfect. Yes, and her desire to use her beauty is part of it. Is Michael Jordan flawed because he required an audience for his talents to soar?
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Dec 18, 2016 20:26
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KVeezy3 posted:Yes, and her desire to use her beauty is part of it. Is Michael Jordan flawed because he required an audience for his talents to soar? Well, no, but this is also a movie about the fashion industry, and about beauty, and the need to be looked at. Theoretically she could go live in a hole in the ground and revel in her own beauty but it feels good to weld that power and make other people see it. I like that aspect of the script, it feels like something out of a greek tragedy.
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Dec 18, 2016 20:35
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Well, no, but this is also a movie about the fashion industry, and about beauty, and the need to be looked at. Theoretically she could go live in a hole in the ground and revel in her own beauty but it feels good to weld that power and make other people see it. I like that aspect of the script, it feels like something out of a greek tragedy. It's not really about the fashion industry, the industry is just used as a backdrop to be able to speak about beauty in explicit terms. No, theoretically she can't live in a hole in the ground. Who are all these people that can supposedly do this? What writer only writes books and then buries them in the ground?
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Dec 18, 2016 20:44
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KVeezy3 posted:It's not really about the fashion industry, the industry is just used as a backdrop to be able to speak about beauty in explicit terms. hmm Magic Hate Ball posted:Well, no, but this is also a movie about the fashion industry, and about beauty, and the need to be looked at. KVeezy3 posted:No, theoretically she can't live in a hole in the ground. Who are all these people that can supposedly do this? What writer only writes books and then buries them in the ground? None (except maybe Adam and Eve pre-apple), that's why I said "theoretically". It's as much about beauty as it is about what beauty can do, and it's her human needs (audience, help, friendship) that betray her.
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Dec 18, 2016 21:04
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KVeezy3 posted:Yes, and her desire to use her beauty is part of it. Is Michael Jordan flawed because he required an audience for his talents to soar? Michael Jordan is definitely one of the most tragically flawed personalities in America. Just like Kanye. He just hides it better. I wonder if Kanye saw Neon Demon. He loved Enter The Void so much he swagger jacked it for his Lights music video. I wouldn't doubt he'd be a big Refn fan as well.
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Dec 19, 2016 21:46
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kanye has serious brain issues tho. i don't think his airness do.
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ruddiger posted:Michael Jordan is definitely one of the most tragically flawed personalities in America. Just like Kanye. He just hides it better. Wayne Gretsky, Muhammed Ali, whatever.
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