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Anal Surgery posted:Yeah, I thought the entire film highlighted just how toxic the male gaze was, how it twisted and warped and destroyed things. That was kind of the cheeky irony of making it about lesbian vampire models: the real dark poo poo was the men making it all possible. I thought this too; I mean, the male characters in the film (sans Keanu) are those who are in control of framing the representation of the females and its distribution into the wider world. The men are literally the gatekeepers of the perception of beauty within the world of the film, and the attendant infighting of the women within that space is the only place where the women get to exercise any agency.
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Christina Hendricks' character seems to have more power than anyone else, but she's kind of a non-entity outside of her one scene.
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A True Jar Jar Fan posted:Christina Hendricks' character seems to have more power than anyone else, but she's kind of a non-entity outside of her one scene. I think her character looms over the film as its only mother figure.
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Jezebel's Bobby Finger gently caress The Neon Demon quote:While sitting uncomfortably in the front row of a screening room earlier this week, I spent the time between my squirms and groans dreaming of bolting from the theater to find an idling DeLorean waiting for me on the street, ready to travel back in time convince director Nicolas Winding Refn to abandon The Neon Demon. Instead, I’ll forever be burdened with its memory. http://themuse.jezebel.com/gently caress-the-neon-demon-1782564674
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quote:It’s both real and fake, when you think about it. And isn’t every photo shoot just murdering... the soul?
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I'm sorta ok with this being just Male Gaze Is Evil: The Movie, I just wish Refn did more with that. It's so boringly simple and it brings nothing new to the table (what?? the unrealistic expectations men force upon women creates a toxic environment?? no way!!!). It's not even a particularly nasty depiction of bitchy women or LA debauchery, which would at least be provocative.
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This doesn't appear to be playing anywhere near me, does anyone know if this will end up streaming or on demand quickly like Only God Forgives? I have mixed feelings on Wefn's work as a whole, but his distinctive style usually warrants a viewing.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Jezebel's Bobby Finger The Hulkster's legdrop can't come fast enough
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A weird man made this movie so everything should be interpreted as very sexist, oh wait lots of women were involved, better give it the benefit of the doubt then, no wait the guy says weird things so the movie sucks cause its sexist - a presumably paid reviewer of movies
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Peter Travers called it "a special kind of awful" which is a pretty glowing endorsement if you ask me.
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IM_DA_DECIDER posted:A weird man made this movie so everything should be interpreted as very sexist, oh wait lots of women were involved, better give it the benefit of the doubt then, no wait the guy says weird things so the movie sucks cause its sexist - a presumably paid reviewer of movies
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Halloween Jack posted:Drive was Refn's most commercially successful and accessible film. Maybe this film just needed an indie-pop song playing over the credits that was on-the-nose to the point of being incredibly cheesy. it was accessible presumably because Refn directed and didn't write it. He's stronger at directing poo poo than handling the writing. I liked Only God Forgives but it's wildly divisive with most people.
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The point about Drive not being written by Refn is bang on. Refn's aestheticism is best when shackled by some semblance of a conventional structure (Bronson, Drive).
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The theater I saw this at dropped it from four or five showings a day to one in the first week.
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Unmature posted:The theater I saw this at dropped it from four or five showings a day to one in the first week. The theater I saw it at dropped it completely after a week lol, gonna try to snag a poster
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Only God Forgives is completely captivating because you're really trying to figure out the characters, what motivates them, how they relate to each other, what they'll decide to do. And the films stylistic choices, like the emphasis on close-ups and juxtaposition of vivid colors, support the drama of the characters' inner lives. The Neon Demon is an incredibly similar film, except with the characters all flattened out. I think maybe the idea was to have characterization be secondary to an exploration/commentary/satire of social and gender issues, but it doesn't quite work. Mechafunkzilla fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Jul 2, 2016 |
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IM_DA_DECIDER posted:A weird man made this movie so everything should be interpreted as very sexist, oh wait lots of women were involved, It reads to me like this was as far as he got before his tires started spinning in the mud.
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It blows my mind how some of these reviewers have jobs at respectable papers. Seriously, I don't understand how you go about having that large of a platform to speak from and when you're so shallow. These fuckers all have English degrees mostly I'm guessing?
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The funny thing is, this probably works the best on a mainstream level out of anything Refn's done other than Drive. The plot is pretty easy to grok: basically, it's a Twilight Zone episode stretched out to 2 hours. Jesse gets on the modeling ship thinking "to serve man" is a textbook, and then finds out that it's actually a cookbook just narrowly too late.
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The characters in Drive are a lot more interesting and worth following. So I don't agree it's more accessible.
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A lot of people missed the point of the Driver's character too
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Even taking him out you still have Bryan Cranston, Carey Mulligan, Oscar Issacs and of course Albert Brooks who are all incredibly interesting and worth following.
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I must be face blind, I thought the girl who stabs herself at the end was Elle Fanning. I was very confused.
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Coffee And Pie posted:I must be face blind, I thought the girl who stabs herself at the end was Elle Fanning. I was very confused. I didn't think it was her, but I also totally missed that it was one of the women who killed Jesse because I forgot what she looked like. It wasn't until the woman said "I need to get her out of me" that I even realized who she was.
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What the gently caress is it with goons and movie faceblindness
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It's not my fault all skinny blonde girls look the same
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I thought that was the point that they all looked the same
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Coffee And Pie posted:It's not my fault all skinny blonde girls look the same The only one (besides Elle Fanning) that I recognized throughout the movie was Sarah because her face is so distinct. I also kept wondering who she reminded me of and I just found out now that she was in Mad Max: Fury Road. But Gigi was such a generic blonde that I couldn't remember what she looked like when she wasn't on camera.
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Plus they were both wearing identical boxer braids, sunglasses, and dark lipstick, which made it even more confusing
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I would have thought Bella Heathcote had a pretty distinctive face, but apparently not.
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CelticPredator posted:Even taking him out you still have Bryan Cranston, Carey Mulligan, Oscar Issacs and of course Albert Brooks who are all incredibly interesting and worth following. Oh I wasn't disagreeing with you, the character writing in Drive was absolutely stronger (probably because it wasn't Refn). I was just thinking of those silly reviews and remembering how people viewed the Driver and his jacket
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I thought they did a phenomenal job of picking three girls with the same basic look that look completely different.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I thought they did a phenomenal job of picking three girls with the same basic look that look completely different. From each other, yeah, but Gigi at least was... forgettable? I can't speak for other people with face blindness, but I didn't mistake Gigi for any other previously-introduced character at the end. I just thought she was a totally new character. What especially threw me was when Sarah says that she ate the last girl or whatever and Gigi looks at her with this horrified and shocked expression.
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It really baffles me how terrible goons can be at watching movies. I'm pretty bad and even I never confused any of the characters.
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You wanna hear something really embarrassing? I thought the girl in the final scene who replaced the other model was Ruby, so invigorated by the cannibalism that she could outshine any barely-twenty model. Made perfect thematic sense to me until I realized it's the same actress as before. And redhead Jena Malone is my waifu anyways.
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There are like 6 characters in this movie, how can you possibly mix them up?
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The Neon Demon 1.50 oz. Marie Brizard anisette 1.00 oz. Flor de Cana Extra Secco 0.50 oz. lime juice 0.25 oz. grenadine Garnish with blueberries. IM_DA_DECIDER posted:And redhead Jena Malone is my waifu anyways.
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