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Digirat posted:Origin means they aren't paying valve 30% of every PC sale, that doesn't sound like a mistake to me. Yeah, I mean, as big of a clusterfuck as Origin is...they are using their biggest properties to promote it. Even Steam launched somewhere. I remember loathing Steam when Half Life 2 came out.
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Eyud posted:Yeah the idea that EA made a mistake with Origin is laughable. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean they hosed up. Man, sucks that nobody is playing this dying game, and never will again after it dies. But hey, at least EA got 30% more for each sale!
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Oct 11, 2017 19:40
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Origin has a smaller footprint than steam. You can literally shut all of the overlay poo poo off. Like, EA has far larger transgressions than this when it comes to profiting on their games.
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Oct 11, 2017 19:40
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Eyud posted:Yeah the idea that EA made a mistake with Origin is laughable. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean they hosed up. I mean, depends. If they would have gotten over 30%* more buyers on Steam than they have on Origin, then it kind of does. But they're obviously trying to grow their own service regardless of short-term losses. *Didn't bother doing any actual math on that, nobody correct me.
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Oct 11, 2017 19:42
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I haven't used origin in years, but occasionally I still have to kill the updater process because it somehow gets permission to run for no reason. It's practically malware.
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Oct 11, 2017 19:44
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vyst posted:Origin has a smaller footprint than steam. You can literally shut all of the overlay poo poo off. Like, EA has far larger transgressions than this when it comes to profiting on their games. Yeah, I don't think it's a bad client, it's just not steam, and nothing they do is going to change that. Right now it's just a launcher for Battlefield and Titanfall. Keeping those games Origin-exclusive is about as smart as if Ubisoft decided their games were uPlay-exclusive, instead of "$5 more expensive on steam, and with an annoying uPlay wrapper"
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Oct 11, 2017 19:44
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Yeah, it's sad that Origin killed off the Battlefield playerbase too. What a mistake. I bet they're really kicking themselves.
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Oct 11, 2017 19:57
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Eyud posted:Yeah, it's sad that Origin killed off the Battlefield playerbase too. What a mistake. I bet they're really kicking themselves.
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Oct 11, 2017 20:08
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I thought we were talking about how it's all Origin's fault, because clearly it is, just look at the evidence!
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Oct 11, 2017 20:09
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Skyscraper posted:Man, sucks that nobody is playing this dying game, and never will again after it dies. But hey, at least EA got 30% more for each sale! From august 22: quote:Since the release of Monarch’s Reign in May, we’ve seen our playerbase increase every month. Currently we have over a million players across all platforms each month playing multiplayer, and we’re expecting August to be our biggest month of 2017. I'm having no problem finding FD games on PC myself. But most multiplayer games have populations that are thinning out pretty fast by a year after release so TF2 did start emptying out fast after that blog post then it wouldn't even be unique in the slightest. You're also treating TF2 as a solely PC game when the majority of target consumers actually aren't on PC and therefore aren't affected by origin in the slightest, and you're blindly ignoring other factors in its success such as how EA decided to release this lesser-known shooter right next to call of duty and battlefield. What a flimsy-rear end post.
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Oct 11, 2017 20:12
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TF2 disc didn't leave my PS4 for 10 months straight. I'm G20, I've got fishsticks nfor everything, and the tryhard players are now beating my rear end hard because I'm an old. I didn't stop playing TF because of low player counts or anything. The game never died for me, I just burned out. I need a break. Now Persona 5 is in the drive and it's not coming out until I'm done. If I'm playing any multi these days it's TLoU Factions because playing that game is like riding a bike. Also, it's kind of relaxing in a way compared to TF2's unyielding bombast and total serotonin drain.
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Oct 11, 2017 20:22
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Digirat posted:From august 22: General Battuta posted:Somebody should go back to PVP cause the PC playerbase is dead s.i.r.e. posted:"The light that burns twice bright, burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly Olympic Mathlete posted:Y'all moved onto Destiny 2 now or what? SHAMEFUL. You might be right about consoles, I have no idea, it might be bigger there, and it's just a ghost town on PC, but they've still stopped updating, and they're not about to move into DLC that isn't just robot skins. As for timing, it wasn't great, but I came over from the other games, because it was clear that the gameplay sucked for BF and COD this cycle for whatever reason*, and Titanfall 2 is clearly the better game. *The reason is because they make too many of them.
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Oct 11, 2017 20:35
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You know what else? Having friends on Steam playing your game is good for promotion, in the case of maybe a publisher not doing enough to promote a game. I've seen early access games slowly sweep my friends list, and I guess that would work on Origin too if people wanted to use it for anything other than a launcher for multiplayer FPS games, but this is not the case.
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Oct 11, 2017 20:50
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Titanfall 2 wasn’t a commercial smash on console, but it did well enough. PS4 playerbase was healthy at 8-10K players for most of the cycle, with Attrition matchmaking times never dipping below a minute until Destiny 2 came out. PC TF2 looks like it consistently did better than any of the attempted arena shooter revivals (Quake Champions, Lawbreakers) too. I’m not worried about Respawn with them announcing a VR game, and their Star Wars game in development. https://twitter.com/Respawn/status/918186074446245888
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Oct 11, 2017 21:05
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Skyscraper posted:Man, sucks that nobody is playing this dying game, and never will again after it dies. But hey, at least EA got 30% more for each sale! As an EA shareholder, let me tell you I really appreciate that 30%! Also, the game "dying" has nothing to do with Origin.
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Oct 11, 2017 21:10
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Lumpy posted:Also, the game "dying" has nothing to do with Origin.
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Skyscraper posted:It's awesome that you crawl out of the woodwork with this bullshit when someone insults Origin, but not with all the other posters saying things like I'm very sorry I didn't respond to each of those posts because that matters to you for reasons unclear (I've already said in the past that I'm not having trouble finding games and I don't know what platform or modes they're playing, so what do you even want me to say to them). you're still ignoring everything I said without actually giving any reasons why origin has somehow caused the game to "die" besides the fact that you don't like it, as if this is a PC only game, as if it isn't already a year old, as if this happens to every origin game when it absolutely doesn't, and as if there are no other factors that could matter such as the terrible time EA chose to release the game. You've just made this nonsensical connection in your head and convinced yourself it was the truth, and you're ignoring everything else to continue believing it.
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Oct 11, 2017 21:48
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Digirat posted:I'm very sorry I didn't respond to each of those posts because that matters to you for reasons unclear (I've already said in the past that I'm not having trouble finding games and I don't know what platform or modes they're playing, so what do you even want me to say to them). you're still ignoring everything I said without actually giving any reasons why origin has somehow caused the game to "die" besides the fact that you don't like it, as if this is a PC only game, as if it isn't already a year old, as if this happens to every origin game when it absolutely doesn't, and as if there are no other factors that could matter such as the terrible time EA chose to release the game. You've just made this nonsensical connection in your head and convinced yourself it was the truth, and you're ignoring everything else to continue believing it.
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Oct 11, 2017 21:58
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You should prove origin is to blame because you're the one saying it is 
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Oct 11, 2017 23:13
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I like Origin and I liked Battlelog, it was a better way to keep track of servers without needing to be in-game and change classes before joining one.
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Skyscraper posted:Apparently it has nothing to do with anything, Digirat tells me it's bigger than ever since Monarch dropped. I look forward to your in depth analysis on how Origin affected the playerbase on PS4 and XBone.
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Skyscraper posted:Good news, guys, our game isn't dying! It's the biggest it's ever been! My comment was somewhat in jest, I don't think the game is dead due to a lack of a playerbase but it's sad to see that the game is basically done with when it comes to updates and content.
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Oct 12, 2017 00:57
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Lumpy posted:I look forward to your in depth analysis on how Origin affected the playerbase on PS4 and XBone. I'm still trying to find the origin app on the PSN store. There's something about EA access in xbox.com but nope, not like that.
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Guillermus posted:I'm still trying to find the origin app on the PSN store. There's something about EA access in xbox.com but nope, not like that. No wonder this game is dead!
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Digirat posted:You should prove origin is to blame because you're the one saying it is s.i.r.e. posted:My comment was somewhat in jest, I don't think the game is dead due to a lack of a playerbase but it's sad to see that the game is basically done with when it comes to updates and content.
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Let's say it is dead, since you're clearly just using that question to distract and dodge around having to justify what you said. So why did origin make it die?
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Digirat posted:Let's say it is dead, since you're clearly just using that question to distract and dodge around having to justify what you said. So why did origin make it die?
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Skyscraper posted:No, I asked if it was dying or not, not for some half-assed "oh, you're just dodging so I let's say it is". How did you screw up the first time, or are you asking me to prove that Origin caused something that didn't happen? Actually while I'm at it Guillermus posted:I like Origin and I liked Battlelog, it was a better way to keep track of servers without needing to be in-game and change classes before joining one.
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This is a dumb discussion. When's FNN update?
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We are witnessing the future. The future of the tf2 thread content on somethingawful dot com.
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xxEightxx posted:We are witnessing the future. The future of the tf2 thread content on somethingawful dot com. 
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:This is a dumb discussion. When's FNN update? You mean the one last week that said the game is on patching life support? 
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I bought the game a couple of weeks ago and am playing the SP. It's surprisingly creative and fun, even if the main character has no personality. Hats off to the devs for putting in the effort. I'm definitely playing it all the way but will probably not touch the MP.
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Oct 13, 2017 06:21
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Shame, because the MP is best in class.
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Oct 13, 2017 06:40
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A few people have asked what the Home key is in my games over the last couple days. Do some keyboards just not have one? or could they...actually not puzzle that one out? 
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Oct 13, 2017 06:51
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"It's where the Heart key is"
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Home key is the origin of all keys.
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Renoistic posted:I bought the game a couple of weeks ago and am playing the SP. It's surprisingly creative and fun, even if the main character has no personality. Hats off to the devs for putting in the effort. I'm definitely playing it all the way but will probably not touch the MP. I feel like you kind of get a glimpse of personality as you select the dialogue options. Definitely feel the bromance between cooper and bt by the end MP is great and you should try it. I haven't played anything this fast paced in years and I found it easy to adapt to. Even the first few hours when I was getting stomped I was having fun because there's a lot going on. I also find it easy to set personal goals for improvement. At first I just focused on learning the basic mechanics, then I tried out all the kits, then I worked on unlocking melee executions, now I'm working to get better at using the grappling hook and trying all the different weapons to find my preferred ones.
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So... Who wants to play Frontier Defense with me?
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Renoistic posted:I bought the game a couple of weeks ago and am playing the SP. It's surprisingly creative and fun, even if the main character has no personality. Hats off to the devs for putting in the effort. I'm definitely playing it all the way but will probably not touch the MP. This game has the best MP, and right now the worst that'll happen is that you'll have to play at prime time or wait a while for a game. If you're not picky about game modes, I'm sure you'll get something, and if you play Attrition then you can kill CPU grunts to help your team out while you get good enough to beat other players. It's way more forgiving than other FPSes that will dump you in a situation where being new only serves to feed the enemy.
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