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jeff smisek posted:Fishing is extremely my poo poo, op. Leaving tomorrow for a 2-day pike trip at a big rear end reservoir. Rented a kayak, gonna load up my stuff, set to up camp somewhere remote and spend 2 days on the water only taking breaks for cooking trout and eggs on the fire and maybe taking a poop or two jeff smisek posted:Life owns right now I believe it. Sounds cool to me.
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Jun 20, 2016 23:29
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bongwizzard posted:Well, my view is that spending more on a rod is always worth it To me it's like audio equipment where I can't tell the difference between a decent $3000 stereo and a $30,000 stereo. Or PC parts where you can pay twice as much and get 5 more FPS. I have owned a some expensive poles and they were nice as far as fit and finish but not really worth the money. There are diminishing returns beyond a few hundred bucks where you are just doing it because it makes you feel good. Which is fine.
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Jun 20, 2016 23:36
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bongwizzard posted:
yeah buddy, i can remember my first week of fishing as an adult who just got his fishing license, it went from 19 degree weather and rain on opening day in a small stream with no trout to moving to a dam full of everything, but catching nothing for the rest of the week on my boring rear end idiot bobber set up i learned to jig and figured out which sizes and weights can get low in the water without scraping the bottom or collecting weeds at the speed i typically reel in at, and in terms of eating fish i've had no need to learn any other reeling technique since
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Jun 20, 2016 23:36
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bongwizzard posted:Cool, I have never found one in the store to mess with but none of the cheaper UL rods I have owned really cast light rear end lures very well at all. It took a bit of experimentation to find something that could effectively cast 1/32 or 1/16 oz. stuff, some of the cheaper stuff just won't do it, I've had cheap shakespeares and pfluegers that couldn't. St.croix has a bunch in the 5'-5'6" range that are rated well for ultra-lite lures but many are two-piece setups, which for whatever reason I just don't like using. You're absolutely right that it's worth it spend a moderate amount on quality gear rather than grab the first thing you see (if you're fishing consistently, anyway), most of the better companies shoot for customer satisfaction and are usually happy to help you out if something goes wrong with one of their products
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Jun 20, 2016 23:48
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crabcakes66 posted:To me it's like audio equipment where I can't tell the difference between a decent $3000 stereo and a $30,000 stereo. Or PC parts where you can pay twice as much and get 5 more FPS. Oh god, a "few hundred bucks" is way more then I was really talking about, I mean stuff firmly in the "St Croix/Midrange customs" stuff, like $200 at the high end. I mean, dude's $500 blank was sweet as hell, but in no way was it close to like 150% better than the $170 rod he made me. But, I will say that my custom is easily that much better than the low end Shakespeare I replaced with it. extra stout posted:i learned to jig and figured out which sizes and weights can get low in the water without scraping the bottom or collecting weeds at the speed i typically reel in at, and in terms of eating fish i've had no need to learn any other reeling technique since I am not even messing with jigs, crankbaits, or even spinnerbaits much yet, the world of soft plastics is going to keep me entertained for years now I suspect. This summer I am concentrating on weighless fluke type baits and finesse plastics and even with four rods on my kayak I have too many thing I want to try out.
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Jun 20, 2016 23:48
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Also, I was not kidding about fishing being all consuming, it has literally pushed every other hobby out of my life. Plus side I am outside constantly and usually walk like 20-50 miles a week now so that kinda rules, but I literally get antsy if I go more than a few days without fishing. The other week work was awful and I had to drive to a Bass Pro and buy some rubber worms to calm myself down.
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Jun 20, 2016 23:54
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Also Also my posting is what it must be like for my girlfriend, who gets big ups for not leaving me, as I often get lit and talk at her about the relative merits of tubes vs. craws for like 90 minutes.
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Jun 20, 2016 23:56
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bongwizzard posted:Also, I was not kidding about fishing being all consuming, it has literally pushed every other hobby out of my life. Plus side I am outside constantly and usually walk like 20-50 miles a week now so that kinda rules, but I literally get antsy if I go more than a few days without fishing. The other week work was awful and I had to drive to a Bass Pro and buy some rubber worms to calm myself down. You may have other problems. Edit: bongwizzard posted:Also Also my posting is what it must be like for my girlfriend, who gets big ups for not leaving me, as I often get lit and talk at her about the relative merits of tubes vs. craws for like 90 minutes. You definitively have other problems.
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Jun 20, 2016 23:56
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I used to fish a ton as a kid, but never cleaned them, my grandpa or his brother always would. I took it back up again in my early 20's and when it came time to clean them I found I just had a hard time killing the animal, and so I stopped. I still would LIKE to fish, but I hate hurting/killing them, so I gave it up. Oh well. edit: yea I could just do catch and release, but sometimes when you gut-hook them, it's just too gross/painful for me to watch. And the crazy thing is that I'm not some huge anti-animal cruelty guy or whatever, it just bothers me to do that personally. Big Beef City fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Jun 21, 2016 |
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Jun 20, 2016 23:57
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Nature is good, fishing is good. The city life is good but to experience the not city life sometimes is good too
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Jun 20, 2016 23:58
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VendaGoat posted:You may have other problems. Some hyperbole there, but I really did go walk around a Bass Pro and it was really nice to be distracted from worrying about work for a moment. VendaGoat posted:Edit: Just lol if you can't debate tubs vc. craws for 90 minutes.
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Jun 21, 2016 00:08
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ArtIsResistance posted:Nature is good, fishing is good. The city life is good but to experience the not city life sometimes is good too Truefacts.
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Jun 21, 2016 00:09
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extra stout posted:i was actually about to post 'so how much did you pay the captain of the tourist boat for permission to hold his steel framed fish catcher?' so please don't take back your post or apologize "captain" of the "tourist boat" aka the 46' family sportfisher. My folks are pretty insanely into fishing. Also roboreelers are acceptable when you are deep sea fishing and it's kinda impractical to reel dead weight for an hour for a fish that the pressure differential killed already, otherwise no one I know does this, it's kinda killing the point.
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Jun 21, 2016 00:16
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bongwizzard posted:Just lol if you can't debate tubs vc. craws for 90 minutes. While I may not partake in the ancient art of fishery, I can respect it. I would simply listen to your regalia and see if you would do the same to which I am inclined to. Thereby we could both learn something and grow from it.
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Jun 21, 2016 00:56
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Angry Birds Suicide posted:"captain" of the "tourist boat" aka the 46' family sportfisher. My folks are pretty insanely into fishing. roboreelers are never acceptable santiago reeled in a line with his bare hands until the nerve went out in his left hand, but i am now curious about your fishing adventures plz post pictures of your catches here, wednesday is looking like a good day to fish i will hopefully go finally do my first fishing of the season and post a picture of my stringer here
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Jun 21, 2016 01:03
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jeff smisek posted:Life owns right now http://www.walleyecentral.com/forums/showthread.php#/forumsite/20518/topics/36104?page=1 Scroll down a little, pike is good solo, but better with a little effort
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Jun 21, 2016 01:04
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LowPartz posted:http://www.walleyecentral.com/forums/showthread.php#/forumsite/20518/topics/36104?page=1  holy moly.. too bad I'm not bringing a cooler with me
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Jun 21, 2016 01:43
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jeff smisek posted:
Shore lunch my dude. Sub olive oil for butter, Lil plastic thing of lemon juice, Walla!
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Jun 21, 2016 01:48
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Youre right. You're always right
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Jun 21, 2016 01:52
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I like to fish out on the ocean but fishing on a lake or river is boring
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Jun 21, 2016 01:58
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Carmant posted:I like to fish out on the ocean but fishing on a lake or river is boring 
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Jun 21, 2016 02:00
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Carmant posted:I like to fish out on the ocean but fishing on a lake or river is boring Dude, harsh
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Jun 21, 2016 02:06
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Now that i think about it, i saw another pike recipe that skipped the boiling all together. Pan fry cubed pike with olive oil, salt, pepper, garlic, browning on each side. gently caress butter
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Jun 21, 2016 02:12
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Makes bass edible too
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Jun 21, 2016 02:14
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like most hobbies, any time someone who has been doing it for a while tells you any particular piece of gear, or quality of gear is "necessary" or "minimum" or whatever, take it with more than a few grains of salt. what they actually mean is "you don't need this at all, but it's nice and I've been using it for a while and I'd miss it if it were gone" most of the time their recommendations are a huge waste of money if you just want to dabble and see if you have an interest in the hobby. if possible, go somewhere that rents gear or find someone with the gear willing to let you politely mooch and do that. don't buy a $150 pole just to try a day of fishing
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Jun 21, 2016 02:22
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I go fishing for kokanee with my parents off the back of their pontoon/party boat. It has a proper fishing deck in the back, and easily holds four lines at once. The kokanee are smaller at this time of year, at 9 - 11 inches; but the daily limit is 15 per person, so it can be a lot of fish/fishing. On a good weather day we can get our limit of 45 in about 4-6 hours. Its totally good times.
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Jun 21, 2016 02:28
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yeah it'd be like telling someone to buy a set of Callaways and a couple boxes of ProV1s for someone who's never golfed before. It's appreciated equipment, but if you're just out there to gently caress around, it's not worth it or needed. It isn't even needed by the people who actually use it, mostly.
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Jun 21, 2016 02:28
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A wise person told me a while ago that better gear won't necessarily catch more fish, but it will make the experience more pleasant.
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Jun 21, 2016 02:39
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If you are new to fishing you should look on a map to find what pieces of water are near you then type "Fishing Fat Greek Lake" into google and read some old fogeys chatting about what fish are there in the forum. They will also say what kind of stuff they use and how they do it. You then look up a "how to fillet a fish" video on Youtube and go to the lake with probably a) 60 dollar Walmart rod/reel with line on it, b) some Mr Twister lures, c) small stryofoam thing of worms Stream fishing is harder and ocean fishing sometimes need more expensive stuff but whatever do whatever
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Jun 21, 2016 02:44
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stealie72 posted:A wise person told me a while ago that better gear won't necessarily catch more fish, but it will make the experience more pleasant. Totally agree. Go cheap initially, and once you have a feel for it, decide where to invest, if at all. Presentation (what lure, and how you retrieve it) will catch fish regardless of price.
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Jun 21, 2016 02:47
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stealie72 posted:A wise person told me a while ago that better gear won't necessarily catch more fish, but it will make the experience more pleasant. Only a bad workman blames his tools.
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Jun 21, 2016 02:48
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VendaGoat posted:Only a bad workman blames his tools. I don't think your interpretation is accurate. The $200 dollar rod is a joy to use, but a bamboo rod, line, hook, and worm can produce.
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Jun 21, 2016 03:11
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King of Bees posted:I did fly fishing guiding for a few years if that's something anyone is interested in When you're off probe, I need to upgrade my fly rod and need recommendations, pref under $300. 4 or 5wt, maybe 9ft? Maybe shorter. For small colorado mtn streams (trout obv)
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Jun 21, 2016 03:19
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LowPartz posted:I don't think your interpretation is accurate. The $200 dollar rod is a joy to use, but a bamboo rod, line, hook, and worm can produce. let me attempt to translate. Only a poor angler blames his lures. An experienced angler can adjust, to whatever variants, given he has the proper equipment. It is only a poor angler that would say he/she is either ill prepared, or not experienced enough to adapt to his surroundings.  better?
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Jun 21, 2016 03:27
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VendaGoat posted:let me attempt to translate. The advice simply said that the tools of higher quality were more comfort, not more effective. Also, we're not discussing lures, but rods and reels. In the parlance, lures are referred to as Terminal Tackle. Any experienced angler, since we're using that antiquated term, knows that there are variables introduced by each piece of equipment that affects all the others, so blaming the lure is, prima face, an argument that only reveals the inexperience of the plaintiff. You mentioned earlier that you were not well versed in the habits of anglers, but it appears you're doing some research. What's your particular hobby?
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Jun 21, 2016 04:07
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I love the waves and the salty breeze, and there's an element of danger. Hell, your boat could sink.. maybe there are sharks in the water. Anything could happen. You also catch bigger fish.
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Jun 21, 2016 04:15
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LowPartz posted:Not quite. You're telling me that an experienced angular would not first research where he/she is going and compensate for their tackle box, in regards to the environment they are going to be fishing in? You're saying a master of their craft would not understand that there would be a difference between fishing in the pacific northwest and the Galveston harbor? As for your question, Photography, amongst other hobbies.
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Jun 21, 2016 04:17
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VendaGoat posted:You're telling me that an experienced angular would not first research where he/she is going and compensate for their tackle box, in regards to the environment they are going to be fishing in? I think we're arguing to different points. You're discussing lures, while we were discussing the equipment used to present the lure (rod, reel, etc.). Your points on lure selection are correct: geography is absolutely a factor to consider. What works where i fish might be useless, from a terminal tackle perspective, than what works somewhere else, but the delivery system (rod, reel. Etc. ) relies more on technique preferred, rather than fish species sought. Hopefully, this clears up any confusion for you in regards to lures versus rods et. al. I can elaborate further if you'd like, but the finer points might prove boring for someone who has no interest in actually fishing. What draws you to photography?
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Jun 21, 2016 04:46
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I don't usually catch and release or fly fish, but yesterday I took a 2 weight fly rod and some dry flies and played with grayling for a couple hours below a waterfall. It was pretty great.
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