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axeil posted:For Northern Ireland who knows, but Irish unification would be hilarious as a result of this. A silver lining to every cloud. 
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Jun 24, 2016 06:26
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Well it was nice while The Troubles were on hiatus.
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Jun 24, 2016 06:28
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SpaceDrake posted:It was a pain in the rear end trying to set up my little localization business in the long wake of the 2008 financial crisis, and I was happy that things had finally stabilized a bit. This is going to be worse than it ever was, isn't it. Relax, nothing has happened yet. This is not a financial crisis so far, and it remains to be seen if it ever becomes one. Everybody please take a big breath and repeat after me: stock markets are not the economy. TyrantWD posted:The shock will wear off, but governments and multinationals are going to make this as painful for the UK as possible to let voters in other countries know what awaits them if they try something similar. This is nonsense as well. Multinationals are interested in their bottom line, governments depend on UK trade revenue and need to contain any economic fallout. This is not a morality play.
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Jun 24, 2016 06:31
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Lid posted:Well it was nice while The Troubles were on hiatus. That's my main worry in all of this, from my 97% ignorant stance anyway. 
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Jun 24, 2016 06:31
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We need a new currency for this new era. I vote for Britcoins.
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Jun 24, 2016 06:32
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If Nigel Farage was smart he would dissolve the UKIP and rejoin the Tories again. I wonder if they would try to keep him out if he did.
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Jun 24, 2016 06:33
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What's happening in Europe right now
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Jun 24, 2016 06:35
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What does the currency crash and stock market sell-off imply for interest rates? (I'm kind of hoping for swingeing interest rate rises and a subsequent house price crash, just to gently caress off all the complacent home-owners who voted 'Leave')
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Jun 24, 2016 06:38
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Not sure the Republic would accept to unite with Northern Ireland even if they voted to split from the UK. They shouldn't
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Jun 24, 2016 06:38
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Didnt France and Italy say they'd hold their own referendum if UK leaves? Wonder when that'll happen...
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Jun 24, 2016 06:40
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Pistol_Pete posted:What does the currency crash and stock market sell-off imply for interest rates? Buy gold. Or wheat / rice depending on how panicked you are.
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Jun 24, 2016 06:40
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Angelwolf posted:Didnt France and Italy say they'd hold their own referendum if UK leaves? Wonder when that'll happen... The far right populist party leaders in The Netherlands and France (Geert Wilders and Marine Le Pen respectively) have already called for their own countries to have referenda. Both also stand non-negligible chances of being elected their countries' next leaders, so those votes may well happen some time in the next 5-10 years.
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Jun 24, 2016 06:41
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Lid posted:Well it was nice while The Troubles were on hiatus. On the other hand, it would mean Ireland was reunited not by a bloody sectarian conflict that spanned decades, but by a man who hosed a pig's head.
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Jun 24, 2016 06:43
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Now Sky News is saying that S&P will be evaluating if the UK will lose its AAA credit rating. drat. EDIT: In fact, the Financial Times is reporting "Rating agency S&P confirmed that the UK is likely to lose its final AAA credit rating."
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Jun 24, 2016 06:43
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Is there a good unbiased rundown of the Brexit situation overall somewhere? I'm a US goon that started paying attention to this way too late and everything I'm looking at either seems really partisan or has very little information other than 'this is good/bad'. Edit: e.g. how it affects uk/europe + why this vote is even happening in the first place.
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Jun 24, 2016 06:45
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e_angst posted:Now Sky News is saying that S&P will be evaluating if the UK will lose its AAA credit rating.  Well, that's the end of the British economy and also probably the UK. Dave Cameron is going to go down in history as the man who destroyed the United Kingdom.
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Jun 24, 2016 06:46
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IT BEGINS posted:Is there a good unbiased rundown of the Brexit situation overall somewhere? I'm a US goon that started paying attention to this way too late and everything I'm looking at either seems really partisan or has very little information other than 'this is good/bad'. I think at this point just watching the financial news should give you an indication of whether this is a good thing or not.
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Jun 24, 2016 06:46
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In ten years Wales will be independent and Essex will be at war with Mercia.
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Jun 24, 2016 06:47
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Scotland flees for the door.
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Jun 24, 2016 06:47
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IT BEGINS posted:Is there a good unbiased rundown of the Brexit situation overall somewhere? I'm a US goon that started paying attention to this way too late and everything I'm looking at either seems really partisan or has very little information other than 'this is good/bad'. David Cameron promised a referendum on leaving the EU so racists would vote for him, they didn't actually plan on this passing and now Cameron is going to resign as prime minister. The idea is that leaving the EU means the UK can be truly sovereign and say "no thanks" to the dirty immigrants and refugees taking their jobs. The reality is the UK will need to re-negotiate trade deals with the EU and obviously that is going to require the UK to accept immigrants and refugees. There is no benefit whatsoever, and since the UK is a financial hub it is loving the global economy as well.
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Jun 24, 2016 06:50
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IT BEGINS posted:Is there a good unbiased rundown of the Brexit situation overall somewhere? I'm a US goon that started paying attention to this way too late and everything I'm looking at either seems really partisan or has very little information other than 'this is good/bad'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum,_2016 this is a good start, honestly. As for the effects, nobody can tell you that because we don't know yet. Over the next two years, all that will get hammered out. Best guess right now is that the UK will pay premium to keep their access to the EU markets, will still have to abide by the EU regulations and will have their national economy in the shitter for a while. The rest of the EU (and the US) will probably see a slight downturn for a while, but it's unlikely more than that will happen -- in a vacuum. The real unknown factor are independence movements in other EU member states, especially those that are part of the EU monetary zone (i.e. have the euro). If we see a large-scale breakup of the monetary union, poo poo hits the fan globally. How likely that is to happen will slowly become clear over the next two years.
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Jun 24, 2016 06:50
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e_angst posted:Now Sky News is saying that S&P will be evaluating if the UK will lose its AAA credit rating.
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Jun 24, 2016 06:50
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Didn't the US lose it's AAA rating and nothing happened? Would it be different for the UK?
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Jun 24, 2016 06:51
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e_angst posted:Now Sky News is saying that S&P will be evaluating if the UK will lose its AAA credit rating. hahahahahaha
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Jun 24, 2016 06:52
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PhazonLink posted:Didn't the US lose it's AAA rating and nothing happened? It will probably not be different by much, because the Pound Sterling is still a reserve currency, but borrowing costs will probably go up more than the US's did because it isn't quite as central to the global economy as the dollar.
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Jun 24, 2016 06:54
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e_angst posted:Now Sky News is saying that S&P will be evaluating if the UK will lose its AAA credit rating. Haha Jesus Christ. It's like the debt ceiling debacle except if the US had chose to stick its dick in a beehive because idiots were screaming about it.
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Jun 24, 2016 06:54
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PhazonLink posted:Didn't the US lose it's AAA rating and nothing happened? The US had a slight downgrade from a single agency, and that was also during a time when the US was still the strongest non-Chinese economies in the world (because everyone else was still in the shitter from the financial crisis). Also, our downgrade was because of threatened actions that didn't end up coming to pass (Republicans threatening default). Barring something extraordinary, Brexit is happening.
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Jun 24, 2016 06:55
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e_angst posted:The US had a slight downgrade from a single agency, and that was also during a time when the US was still the strongest non-Chinese economies in the world (because everyone else was still in the shitter from the financial crisis).
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Jun 24, 2016 06:56
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I'm blaming this on Cleveland. What a poo poo show. Almost as if racism isn't the best reason to vote for something.
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Jun 24, 2016 06:57
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Again any negative impact will be blamed on outside foreign agencies wishing the destruction of British Empire by the Brexit crew. Like it will just win the Brexit people more support if they can say " Look they were extorting us to stay in and now that we left they are trying to cut our throats".
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Jun 24, 2016 06:57
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So how much will Johnson get reamed by Merkel?
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Jun 24, 2016 06:58
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Eifert Posting posted:I'm blaming this on Cleveland.
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Jun 24, 2016 06:58
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Pellisworth posted:David Cameron promised a referendum on leaving the EU so racists would vote for him, they didn't actually plan on this passing and now Cameron is going to resign as prime minister. The idea is that leaving the EU means the UK can be truly sovereign and say "no thanks" to the dirty immigrants and refugees taking their jobs. This is the only bright spot - Cameron promised a referendum assuming he'd never have to hold it so that he could win another term as prime minister, then it turned out he actually had to go through with it and now it's what may well cause him to lose the job which was the point of promising the thing in the first place.
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Jun 24, 2016 06:59
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straight up brolic posted:it wasn't just racism, people on the left and right did genuinely vote leave, it's that they were lied to about the potential benefits and consequences. like leave people thought this was going to improve UK economy somehow. And the main potential benefit that drove people to the polls was "fewer devious foreigners taking our jobs."
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Jun 24, 2016 06:59
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Hollismason posted:Again any negative impact will be blamed on outside foreign agencies wishing the destruction of British Empire by the Brexit crew. Like it will just win the Brexit people more support if they can say " Look they were extorting us to stay in and now that we left they are trying to cut our throats". War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength.
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Jun 24, 2016 06:59
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huh ,you crazy fuckers actually did it
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Jun 24, 2016 06:59
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So what's some cool stuff to buy for super cheap while the pound crumbles? Any British watch brands, cool shoes, that sort of stuff to watch for?
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Jun 24, 2016 07:00
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So if Scottland and N. Ireland vote to gently caress off from the UK and stick to the EU does that mitigate the global ramifications at the cost of turbofucking England/Wales, or does it just make the whole thing worse?
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Jun 24, 2016 07:01
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BGrifter posted:So what's some cool stuff to buy for super cheap while the pound crumbles? Any British watch brands, cool shoes, that sort of stuff to watch for? I hear there are some nice castles for sale.
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Jun 24, 2016 07:02
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