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yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

~~ smooches ~~


The last bit of anything hockey related for the rest of the summer before the N/V thread turns into food/drink/fashion/wood carving chat: free agency!

When is it: July 1st

Notable Free Agents

Steven Stamkos
Everyone wants him but no one can afford him. Also recently had blood clot surgery. So whoever gets him better hope this doesn't bite them in the rear end in the future. Staying Tampa!!

Eric Staal
As if having Marc Staal being a shadow of his former self wasn't enough, the Rangers acquired his big brother from the Hurricanes to do... something. He wasn't very good, whatever it was.

Milan Lucic
Vancouver will sign him for big bux because Jim Benning is an idiot like that.

Shane Doan
Just retire already.

Patrik Elias
Ditto.

Dan Hamhuis
Benning strikes again!

And the rest: https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents/2017/caphit/all/all/ufa

Speculate who is going where!
Talk about how your team just massively overpaid this 3rd line grinder that'll totally turn them around!
Laugh at other teams' misfortunes!

Happy Summer!



e: I give up on manually tracking signings. Here is the NHL tracker. It's very good.

Somebody fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Jul 2, 2016

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the talent deficit
Dec 20, 2003

self-deprecation is a very british trait, and problems can arise when the british attempt to do so with a foreign culture







vancouver is gonna sign troy brouwer for like 35 mil over six years and some defenseman who once played for boston (is kevan miller a free agent? probably him)

news will come out that lucic, okposo, backes and eriksson were all offered more money and longer term by vancouver but they chose to sign elsewhere

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007



Dan Hamhuis is going UFA. :lol: Benning didn't trade him at the deadline.

I hate the world.

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007





ThinkTank posted:

Dan Hamhuis is going UFA. :lol: Benning didn't trade him at the deadline.

I hate the world.

Wasn't the rumor that Dallas made an offer for Hamhuis, but Benning didn't think it was enough so rather than get something for him he got absolutely nothing? I know Hamhuis had the NTC but I thought he waved it for Dallas.

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

~~ smooches ~~


Also Chicago!

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008


Mind_Taker posted:

Wasn't the rumor that Dallas made an offer for Hamhuis, but Benning didn't think it was enough so rather than get something for him he got absolutely nothing? I know Hamhuis had the NTC but I thought he waved it for Dallas.

As I understand it this was not a Benning blunder but an Aqualini blunder, since I guess there's some kind of feud between the Canucks' ownership and the Dallas Stars' ownership. Though on the flip side you'd think Dallas was far from the only team interested in Hamhuis considering how many playoff teams went into the deadline needing some help on the blueline.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it



How is Goon favorite BORK not on the notable free agent list?

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

~~ smooches ~~


CBJSprague24 posted:

How is Goon favorite BORK not on the notable free agent list?

He's probably gonna end up somewhere in Europe.

Stiev Awt
Mar 20, 2007


I hope Mike Brown and Victor Bartley aren't re-signed.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X


I could see Patrik Elias becoming the next torchbearer of the Penguins' traditional Super Old Guy On A Short Contract role

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010


I'd like to see Calgary pursue somebody like Enroth, or Hutton to back up Elliott (assuming they sign him). Maybe Jason Demers, too. They've got a decent amount of cap space. Hopefully they don't spend a crazy amount on signing Elliott.

Neodoomium
Jun 20, 2001

You are now hearing this
noise in your head.





I hope that someone else needs a goalie and that James Howard III is that goalie

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004






Mind_Taker posted:

Wasn't the rumor that Dallas made an offer for Hamhuis, but Benning didn't think it was enough so rather than get something for him he got absolutely nothing? I know Hamhuis had the NTC but I thought he waved it for Dallas.

Wasnt it a bunch of teams looking to grab him for a playoff rental? Dallas, Chicago and Washington were the 3 I remember specifically.

toe knee hand
Jun 20, 2012

HANSEN ON A BREAKAWAY

HONEY BADGER DON'T SCORE


Furnaceface posted:

Wasnt it a bunch of teams looking to grab him for a playoff rental? Dallas, Chicago and Washington were the 3 I remember specifically.

Yes and the Canucks were not convinced, at the trade deadline, that they were not making the playoffs, even though it was obvious to everyone else.

Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004



whats Cullen's story? I would love to have him back for another year if he'll do it for cheap. He's a great 4C

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

The more you temper a stick, the stronger it becomes

Fun Shoe

Sharks Eat Bear posted:

whats Cullen's story? I would love to have him back for another year if he'll do it for cheap. He's a great 4C

He said after the Cup win that he wasn't decided either way. If he re-signs, he'll be the 4c. If not, it will likely be Sundqvist.

Can't understate how much Cullen owned this year though. Had like 25% o-zone starts and still managed a positive Fenwick. Sundqvist looks like he'll be a nice little player too though. He had some pretty good games when he was in.

corn on the cop
Oct 12, 2012

Break what must be broken, once for all, that's all, and take the suffering on oneself.

― Corey Dostoyevsky

elias is devils or retirement imo

(ill let someone else make the joke)

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008


Ginette Reno posted:

He said after the Cup win that he wasn't decided either way. If he re-signs, he'll be the 4c. If not, it will likely be Sundqvist.

Can't understate how much Cullen owned this year though. Had like 25% o-zone starts and still managed a positive Fenwick. Sundqvist looks like he'll be a nice little player too though. He had some pretty good games when he was in.
i never thought to compare them before but...

matt cullen 2015-2016:
16G 16A 32P

brandon sutter 2014-2015:
21G 12A 33P

then when you factor in basically any kind of fancy stats, salary, or usage...:eyepop:

TeamJesus
Sep 21, 2006

He died for your sins...
Now he's back for your
BRAINS!

El Gallinero Gros posted:

I'd like to see Calgary pursue somebody like Enroth, or Hutton to back up Elliott (assuming they sign him). Maybe Jason Demers, too. They've got a decent amount of cap space. Hopefully they don't spend a crazy amount on signing Elliott.

Friedman called the Elliott trade and also suggested Hutton as a backup possibly.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X


I would have to think that if Cullen decides to play another year he'll either want to make as much money as possible, which precludes a return to the Penguins, or return home to finish his career and transition into retirement, which for him is Minnesota.

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

~~ smooches ~~


Word going around is Shaw getting 6 years at 4 million per.

Cool let's give the grinder more money and term than your 1st line winger.

Fire Bergevin.

Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004



yellowcar posted:

Word going around is Shaw getting 6 years at 4 million per.

Holy fuxking lol if true

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007




yellowcar posted:

Word going around is Shaw getting 6 years at 4 million per.

lmao

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010



Did no one tell Montreal the sad tale of Bryan Bickell? You do not give poo poo-mucky grinder types money or term, it never ever ever works out in your favor.

Shaw can't even sniff Gally's jockstrap and they pretty much have to give that guy a stupid contract when the time comes, too. Which'll be right before his tiny body starts to shatter, which it will.
They always do.

Teemu Pokemon
Jun 19, 2004

To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause


yellowcar posted:

Word going around is Shaw getting 6 years at 4 million per.

This might actually be worse than the Abdelkader contract


It's not.

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely


Hard to say what Dallas might do in free agency, they got plenty of cap space but not many targets are a real fit with the team. Jim Nill has declared that the Stars will not be giving out any contracts for either term or big money, so it's probably depth signings for the Stars if anything - they might just roll into next season with what they have now.

Still holding out hope for a big trade.

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012


Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Did no one tell Montreal the sad tale of Bryan Bickell? You do not give poo poo-mucky grinder types money or term, it never ever ever works out in your favor.

Shaw can't even sniff Gally's jockstrap and they pretty much have to give that guy a stupid contract when the time comes, too. Which'll be right before his tiny body starts to shatter, which it will.
They always do.
Shaw and Bickell aren't at all similar situations.

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004






4 mil seems to be pretty standard these days for a 30 point bottom 6 player. Shaw isnt some loving mindless grinder or goon, he can still play decent hockey and is great at drawing penalties.

The problem is that you dont sign bottom 6 players for 6 years Bergevin you knob. :argh:

FBS
Apr 27, 2015

The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.



If Ladd comes back it would make me sadd. The Jets need to move on and the forward depth is the best it's ever been.

Tbh the only signing I'd expect would be a middle or bottom pairing defenseman they wouldn't mind losing to the expansion draft.

i am the bird
Mar 2, 2005

I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS


Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Did no one tell Montreal the sad tale of Bryan Bickell? You do not give poo poo-mucky grinder types money or term, it never ever ever works out in your favor.


This is the story of Bickell
The loneliest grinder in town
The ugliest grinder in town
Ugly and weak
They called him a freak
So he played on a team underground
He played on a team underground
He played on a team underground

A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011


FBS posted:

If Ladd comes back it would make me sadd. The Jets need to move on and the forward depth is the best it's ever been.

Tbh the only signing I'd expect would be a middle or bottom pairing defenseman they wouldn't mind losing to the expansion draft.

Jets are reportedly talking to Okposo and are looking to add another top 9 forward by most reports

Mike_V
Jul 31, 2004

Let's* go Blackhawks! The Blues and Red Wings suck.

Furnaceface posted:

4 mil seems to be pretty standard these days for a 30 point bottom 6 player. Shaw isnt some loving mindless grinder or goon, he can still play decent hockey and is great at drawing penalties.

The problem is that you dont sign bottom 6 players for 6 years Bergevin you knob. :argh:

Shaw takes just as many dumb penalties as he draws.

FBS
Apr 27, 2015

The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.



A Typical Goon posted:

Jets are reportedly talking to Okposo and are looking to add another top 9 forward by most reports

Yeah but there's a half-dozen teams talking to Okposo so I'm not holding my breath there.

If they do sign a top-9 forward maybe Stafford gets traded at some point?

Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007

my name is john carter




george richards says the panthers are targeting a skilled winger (good) and are feeling good about the blueline (eh) and are gonna be spending (yay)

the only three wingers i can see them targeting are okposo, eriksson, or maybe stempniak, nobody else seems to fit their profile too well. the pairings i would guess end up as something like ekblad/yandle, matheson/pysyk, kindl/petrovic if they stick with what they have now which is okay but i'd like to see them bring in one more player that's not kampfer to strengthen that up.

stab
Feb 12, 2003

To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high


Furnaceface posted:

4 mil seems to be pretty standard these days for a 30 point bottom 6 player. Shaw isnt some loving mindless grinder or goon, he can still play decent hockey and is great at drawing penalties.

The problem is that you dont sign bottom 6 players for 6 years Bergevin you knob. :argh:

Eller is making 3.5

Queue the panic

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...

That's Matt Beleskey money!

Stiev Awt
Mar 20, 2007


stab posted:

Eller is making 3.5

Queue the panic

Eller is the larger player, shouldn't you be sticking up for him? :haw:

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007



Mind_Taker posted:

Wasn't the rumor that Dallas made an offer for Hamhuis, but Benning didn't think it was enough so rather than get something for him he got absolutely nothing? I know Hamhuis had the NTC but I thought he waved it for Dallas.

The story seems to be that Dallas offered the same package they offered to Calgary for Russell except the conditional 1st was a 3rd round pick. The Canucks countered with the conditional 1st thing (possibly at the behest of ownership), Dallas got pissed and just offered that exact package to Calgary. Dallas then circled back and offered that same 3rd round pick straight up for Hamhuis, but by then the Canucks just hung up. There's also a rumour that the Canucks turned down an offer of Dano and a 1st from Chicago for Hamhuis the week prior because they weren't sold on Dano and thought they could start a bidding war. Obviously that didn't materialize.

It was not a good day.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007



Oh and the Canucks are going to sign Darren Helm entirely because he played for Willie in Medicine Hat, and currently that is the only requirement for becoming a member of the Vancouver Canucks Hockey Club.

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Teemu Pokemon
Jun 19, 2004

To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause


Darren Helm owns though so you're welcome :(

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