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Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008


Ginette Reno posted:

I imagine Cullen is their first choice, and if he goes to Minnesota then they'd try for Schultz.

I don't mind the look of the d as is though. Warsofsky is a perfectly acceptable 7th d and Pouliot needs to play. I wouldn't be completely opposed to Schultz coming back but I'm also happy with what we've got.

Only problem is that Letang is literally the only right handed D on the roster. Granted, Daley plays on the right side despite shooting left and does fine, but other than that it's basically undersized Wilkes-Barre tweeners for RHD depth.

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Trevor Bird
Apr 1, 2006

On a mountain of skulls, in the castle of pain, I sat on a throne of blood! What was will be! What is will be no more! Now is the season of evil! LET'S GO PRED-A-TORS!

eXXon posted:

Here, I made this to troll hfboards morons:



It's all starting to make sense now. Make a Weber/Subban one.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012



Trevor Bird posted:

It's all starting to make sense now. Make a Weber/Subban one.

Someone has already posted it somewhere, Subban is not insignificantly better.

AngryBooch
Sep 26, 2009


Schlesische posted:

Someone has already posted it somewhere, Subban is not insignificantly better.

Look at the chart categories.

eXXon
Aug 19, 2002



Trevor Bird posted:

It's all starting to make sense now. Make a Weber/Subban one.

I'm kind of tempted to make an alternative app that only shows block/60, hits/60, PIM/60 and however you measure intangibles - how about (team point %)/(player P/60)?

Krime
Jul 30, 2003

Somebody has to do the scoring around here.


Ginette Reno posted:

I imagine Cullen is their first choice, and if he goes to Minnesota then they'd try for Schultz.

I don't mind the look of the d as is though. Warsofsky is a perfectly acceptable 7th d and Pouliot needs to play. I wouldn't be completely opposed to Schultz coming back but I'm also happy with what we've got.

Agreed. I don't think Schultz makes or breaks the team but I do like his offensive game and shot from the point. Good #2 pp qb.

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007





Is there a reason Kris Versteeg isn't signed yet? I thought he was pretty good with Carolina and LA last season and he'd be a perfect fit in the middle six for less than $2M I'm sure.

St. Dogbert
Mar 17, 2011


Mind_Taker posted:

Is there a reason Kris Versteeg isn't signed yet? I thought he was pretty good with Carolina and LA last season and he'd be a perfect fit in the middle six for less than $2M I'm sure.

I can see Calgary grabbing another RW on the cheap, but the Gaudreau and Monahan extensions need to be done before anyone else can be brought in.

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007





I guess it just seems weird to me that guys like Versteeg and other decent wingers are overlooked around the league even though they will only command a 1 or 2 year deal at less than $2M. Meanwhile Andrew Ladd, with similar stats, gets a 6 year deal and Matt Martin (who is way worse) gets a 4 year deal.

Maybe there's something I'm missing.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)


Teams are probably focused on signing their RFAs and then will see what's out there to fill holes.

AngryBooch
Sep 26, 2009


Mind_Taker posted:

I guess it just seems weird to me that guys like Versteeg and other decent wingers are overlooked around the league even though they will only command a 1 or 2 year deal at less than $2M. Meanwhile Andrew Ladd, with similar stats, gets a 6 year deal and Matt Martin (who is way worse) gets a 4 year deal.

Maybe there's something I'm missing.

Maybe Versteeg wants a contract that will take him to the end of his career in the +2.5M range. 5 yrs, 3 M or something. Who knows?

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011






Lipstick Apathy

So Polak's AAV was announced or leaked or whatever and it's 2.25. That's a lot better than I expected.

Also I missed this during the free agent day or whatever but Chad Ruhwedel went to the Pens on a real small deal that promises him more than his actual AHL salary. He's a smaller defenseman who went to NCAA route and put up good but not exceptional AHL numbers and saw a handful of NHL games. I wonder if the salary thing (and the tightness the Pens have with the cap in general) means he might get a shot at making the team.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010


Trevor Bird posted:

It's all starting to make sense now. Make a Weber/Subban one.

Make one with a blackness/60.

While we're discussing puck moving defencemen, can somebody who's been following the game a long time explain to me why Greg Hawgood moved around so much? I know that there were unrealisic expectations around him coming out of junior (apparently got compared to Orr a bunch), but his PPG averages are pretty solid for defencemen in a bunch of seasons (career PPG of .47), yet he seemed to spend a lot of time in the minors and got traded a LOT (Stempniak-esque, even).

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Jul 4, 2016

Koopa Kid
Aug 21, 2007





Polak's cap hit makes sense, if only because with Cowen disputing his buyout the Leafs actually don't have space for much else.

That arbitration's going to be an interesting one. Cowen was medically cleared by Leafs staff, then sent home to not get injured. He gets a second opinion after that and opts for elective surgery, overlapping the buyout period and technically rendering him ineligible. Arbitrator has to decide between protecting rights of injured players vs. setting precedent for otherwise fit players to avoid buyouts.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

The more you temper a stick, the stronger it becomes

Fun Shoe

Mind_Taker posted:

I guess it just seems weird to me that guys like Versteeg and other decent wingers are overlooked around the league even though they will only command a 1 or 2 year deal at less than $2M. Meanwhile Andrew Ladd, with similar stats, gets a 6 year deal and Matt Martin (who is way worse) gets a 4 year deal.

Maybe there's something I'm missing.

Andrew Ladd is 6 3 and NHL gms are still morons

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008


Jordan7hm posted:

So Polak's AAV was announced or leaked or whatever and it's 2.25. That's a lot better than I expected.

Also I missed this during the free agent day or whatever but Chad Ruhwedel went to the Pens on a real small deal that promises him more than his actual AHL salary. He's a smaller defenseman who went to NCAA route and put up good but not exceptional AHL numbers and saw a handful of NHL games. I wonder if the salary thing (and the tightness the Pens have with the cap in general) means he might get a shot at making the team.

It looks like the Penguins basically signed about a half dozen guys like him. Considering they have almost no right handed defensemen right now and carried 8 defensemen on the roster as often as possible he probably does have a shot though, unless Jultz decides to take a near-minimum salary to come back.

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...

Ginette Reno posted:

Andrew Ladd is 6 3 and NHL gms are still morons

Ladd scored 25, Versteeg scored 15. I think there's less injury history, too.

the talent deficit
Dec 20, 2003

self-deprecation is a very british trait, and problems can arise when the british attempt to do so with a foreign culture







El Gallinero Gros posted:

Make one with a blackness/60.

While we're discussing puck moving defencemen, can somebody who's been following the game a long time explain to me why Greg Hawgood moved around so much? I know that there were unrealisic expectations around him coming out of junior (apparently got compared to Orr a bunch), but his PPG averages are pretty solid for defencemen in a bunch of seasons (career PPG of .47), yet he seemed to spend a lot of time in the minors and got traded a LOT (Stempniak-esque, even).


Ginette Reno posted:

Andrew Ladd Greg Hawgood is 6 3 5 10 and NHL gms are still have always been morons

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

The more you temper a stick, the stronger it becomes

Fun Shoe

Zodijackylite posted:

Ladd scored 25, Versteeg scored 15. I think there's less injury history, too.

Yeah but Versteeg will cost a few wheat pennies and Ladd got 7 years and way too much money

Mr. Kite
Aug 28, 2004

To clarify, that's 10 years after next year -- so 11 years in total of our goaltender being better than yours.

I wouldn't mind if the Kings resigned Versteeg. I still don't understand why they didn't just resign Williams a year ago.

Jedimastafez
Jun 5, 2005

The Stanley Cup has been kidnapped by Gary Bettman! Are you a bad enough dude to rescue it?


Ducks did another thing

Mason Raymond

Um how many more Canucks do we need to get until the city gives us the keys to Hastings

Koopa Kid
Aug 21, 2007





Mason Raymond is hilarious to watch because he's actually a pretty effective offensive player but he's so high event and bad defensively that it's hard to justify him being on an NHL team.

E: also this applies to Joffrey Lupul but only one of them got signed to one of the biggest contracts in Leafs history. Dave Nonis is terrible

nature6pk
May 26, 2006
Left Coast Lame-o

Mason Raymond, he of skating with the puck really fast through the neutral zone and then falling down in the corner and losing the puck.

He was once a great driver of possession

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it



https://twitter.com/Aportzline/status/750307336783171584

:wtc:

Scorchy
Jul 15, 2006

Smug Statement: Elementary, my dear meatbag.


Koopa Kid posted:

Mason Raymond is hilarious to watch because he's actually a pretty effective offensive player but he's so high event and bad defensively that it's hard to justify him being on an NHL team.

E: also this applies to Joffrey Lupul but only one of them got signed to one of the biggest contracts in Leafs history. Dave Nonis is terrible

Once upon a time Raymond had actually turned into a decent checker and PKer under Vigneault

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012


;)

Mike_V
Jul 31, 2004

Let's* go Blackhawks! The Blues and Red Wings suck.

The Caveman is back baby!!!

https://twitter.com/jprutherford/status/750361688226951168

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007



Flames signed Linden Vey, sure why not?

dominator
Oct 1, 2003

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The Blackhawks just signed Tootoo for some reason?

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!


Scorchy posted:

Once upon a time Raymond had actually turned into a decent checker and PKer under Vigneault

He even scored some goals off the rush! Well, scored goals for about the first 20 games in the season, at which point opposing players realized that if you gave him even the slightest shove when he was cutting towards the net he'd fall over and crash awkwardly in to the end boards.

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...

dominator posted:

The Blackhawks just signed Tootoo for some reason?

He's probably the best fourth liner you're going to find for less than the cost of an ELC.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

The more you temper a stick, the stronger it becomes

Fun Shoe

Zodijackylite posted:

He's probably the best fourth liner you're going to find for less than the cost of an ELC.

They were also a little light on their rear end in a top hat quota with Shaw gone

fits
Jan 1, 2008

Love Always,
The Captain


at least hall got his roomie back

https://twitter.com/ToddCordell/status/750414689297915904

Ummagumma
Jul 19, 2004
skydog

dominator posted:

The Blackhawks just signed Tootoo for some reason?

Imagine all the grit a Mashinter-whoever-Tootoo line will bring

Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007

my name is john carter




https://twitter.com/Aportzline/status/750422038301536256

raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaandy

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!



So.... Dave Nonis is the GM now, right? 'Cause otherwise none of this poo poo makes sense.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

The more you temper a stick, the stronger it becomes

Fun Shoe

grack posted:

So.... Dave Nonis is the GM now, right? 'Cause otherwise none of this poo poo makes sense.

Carlyle is the coach

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007





Looking forward to the Ducks not being competitive for years to come.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!


Ginette Reno posted:

Carlyle is the coach

So yes. When does Colton Orr come out of retirement?

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onemillionzombies
Apr 27, 2014



Bowman could've just blown up $750k yesterday and it still would've been a better move than signing Tootoo.

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