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SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Four Danish teenagers tried to burn a 16-year-old Afghan boy alive. He was in critical condition for a couple of hours with third-degree burns on the lower half of his body, but thankfully survived. The national broadcaster did not mention the perpetrators' ethnicity at all during coverage and B.T. just managed a tiny Ritzau telegram on page 17 today. Had the roles been reversed, this would have been frontpage news for a week and the right would have been exploiting this to its fullest potential.

Oh wait, they're trying that anyway.



I managed to swim through the vast ocean of crocodile tears and translate it:

quote:

Ugh! Four Danish boys start to act like ISIS. To burn somebody alive is not something we've ever associated with a Danish cultural background. What will be next? Danish thugs who throw acid in the face of a girl with a different background? Danish youths armed with machetes? Five Danish boys rape a Muslim girl? Demand proof of virginity. Burning down mosques? This is not the kind of cultural import we want in Denmark. Very frightening. :cry: Poor Afghan boy. :cry:

Ignoring for a minute that our probably most famous King burned a ton of witches at the stake, gently caress you, and also there's been several arson attacks against mosques and a cemetery has been vandalised twice.

Edit:



The school principal offered the opinion that the boys didn't know the consequences of their actions. I'm pretty sure I knew that a molotov could loving kill somebody at 15.

SplitSoul fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Feb 8, 2017

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SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

The principal literally offered sympathies to the victim as well as the perpetrators, pleading ignorance to the apparently long-running conflict between the boys, despite the fact that the victim had been physically attacked at least five times prior to this, once seriously enough to warrant a conviction for another student.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

So parliament decided that Blut und Boden is the way forward.

quote:

Folketinget konstaterer med bekymring, at der i dag er områder i Danmark, hvor andelen af indvandrere og efterkommere fra ikkevestlige lande er over 50 pct. Det er Folketingets opfattelse, at danskere ikke bør være i mindretal i boligområder i Danmark.

quote:

Parliament notes with worry that there are neighbourhoods in Denmark where the percentage of immigrants from non-western countries and their descendants is greater than 50%. It is the opinion of parliament that Danes should not be a minority in Danish residential areas.

You might have been born here, grown up here, never left the country, speak only Danish, have a "proper" (white) Danish parent, be a legal citizen and have passed language and citizenship tests with flying colours, but you're still not a Dane according to parliament.

Even better, Syrian refugee Naser Khader voted for it, all the while insisting that he is Danish.

SplitSoul fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Feb 13, 2017

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Fruits of the sea posted:

What is that guy's deal anyways.

You missed one important detail:

He's the worst kind of opportunistic hypocrite. He urged that we "give Trump a chance" until the ban potentially threatened his own ability to travel to the U.S., while his U.S. employer supports the ban. He suggested that arriving refugees from Syria walked here from the Balkans wearing a suicide belt. He has even called Pia Kjærsgaard a "patriot"—a person who insisted on moral equivalence between wearing a hijab, like Khader's own mother, and physically assaulting a person for wearing a hijab.

And yeah, I missed that part while phone posting, I've corrected it.

KozmoNaut posted:

The most aggravating part is that the shitheel basically spearheading the whole thing (Martin Henriksen) keeps talking about how you can definitely be Danish or "non-Danish", and he's very dedicated to the idea that there are things (other than citizenship) that marks a person as Danish.

But when pressed on it, to tell exactly where the line should be drawn, he doesn't want to give a clear answer and falls back to "well, it's something that by nature can't be strictly defined".

So he's basically saying "I know it when I see it", and he wants it to be up to personal evaluation of a bunch of right-wing politicians, whether you're "Danish enough".

Both he and Espersen have clearly expressed favour for the Blut und Boden approach in the past, so this is the least surprising thing of all. He has also unequivocally voiced support for the idea of deporting people to "political persecution and torture" (his words).

Revelation 2-13 posted:

I think Naser Khader is legitimately the stupidest person currently in danish politics

"When do the monkeys turn into people?"

He's certainly up there, but I'd like to remind you that we literally have a member of parliament who recalls her past life as a Native American boy and who can speak with her dog.

McCloud posted:

I feel pretty confident insaying pretty much no one uses the word "conservative" to describe Social democrats

I don't know, ours are basically Burkean at this point.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

A Buttery Pastry posted:

It's a good question. The answer is; when we give them rights as people.

Certainly they would do a better job in parliament. I say we give them a chance.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Finally, a solution for playing politics if you have too much occupational experience for parliament.



SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Looking forward to the brave fjellmøjahædin taking on the full force of the Russian military while Denmark predictably pulls a Glistrup. :norway:

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Just accept that these people live in an alternate reality that's tabloid made flesh and impenetrable to both fact and argument.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Not to be outdone by Trump, Denmark just added Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Eritrea to Syria and Somalia in the category of countries whose citizens won't be getting a visa. We'll happily bomb you and ship your citizens back to be tortured or worse, even compile false reports to that specific end, but we don't want your business or your temporary visits.

SplitSoul fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Mar 4, 2017

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

I know where to get my news! From a tabloid literally founded by a personal friend of Hitler and Mussolini. :downs:

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Randarkman posted:

Anyway going to the dentist isn't that expensive

Your teeth are going to all fall out if you keep smoking whatever it is you're smoking.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

SplitSoul posted:

Four Danish teenagers tried to burn a 16-year-old Afghan boy alive. He was in critical condition for a couple of hours with third-degree burns on the lower half of his body, but thankfully survived. The national broadcaster did not mention the perpetrators' ethnicity at all during coverage and B.T. just managed a tiny Ritzau telegram on page 17 today. Had the roles been reversed, this would have been frontpage news for a week and the right would have been exploiting this to its fullest potential.

Oh wait, they're trying that anyway.



I managed to swim through the vast ocean of crocodile tears and translate it:

quote:

Ugh! Four Danish boys start to act like ISIS. To burn somebody alive is not something we've ever associated with a Danish cultural background. What will be next? Danish thugs who throw acid in the face of a girl with a different background? Danish youths armed with machetes? Five Danish boys rape a Muslim girl? Demand proof of virginity. Burning down mosques? This is not the kind of cultural import we want in Denmark. Very frightening. :cry: Poor Afghan boy. :cry:

Ignoring for a minute that our probably most famous King burned a ton of witches at the stake, gently caress you, and also there's been several arson attacks against mosques and a cemetery has been vandalised twice.

Edit:



The school principal offered the opinion that the boys didn't know the consequences of their actions. I'm pretty sure I knew that a molotov could loving kill somebody at 15.

Annnnnddd the perpetrators are now being charged with aggravated assault rather than attempted murder, because throwing a molotov at a person and giving them third-degree burns on 40% of their body clearly doesn't show intent to kill. The story also received no further press until now.

Guess I should just be thankful the victim isn't being charged with breaking their bottle.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Nice piece of fish posted:

Eh, we've always had hate crimes.

This is not really a simple hate crime.

Nice piece of fish posted:

The issue isn't "intent to kill", and what they are charged with isn't necessarily what they'll be convicted of. Do you know if they are being charged with multiple crimes, perhaps? Attempted murder might be a subsidiary charge, as in "charge what you know they are guilty of, and then what you think they might be guilty of".

They have dropped the charge:

http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/indland/politiet-dropper-sigtelse-drabsforsoeg-i-ry-sag

Also, I was wrong, they haven't been charged with aggravated assault, their lawyer just expects them to be. They are not currently charged.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Motherfuckers. Hope all of you are safe. :(

Nazis like Nye Borgerlige are already jerking themselves off over how Sweden deserved it for letting in refugees.

Heinz Hynkel posted:

why would Nazis do this? However, its too early to say who did it. I remember when Breivik did his terror action.

Well, he wrote a 1,500-page manifesto as to why and he's a nazi. But given the MO, it's likely to be Daesh-inspired.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

People jerking themselves and each other off over this deserve to be airdropped over Raqqa with Kurt Westergaard's greatest hits tattooed on their foreheads.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Also, Islam Karimov literally boils people alive and tortures prisoners for praying. It's probably not legal under international law to deport people there.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Kopijeger posted:

How does he do that from beyond the grave?

Oh, that's right. Hard to keep track of all the vassals. Doesn't change my argument, though.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

"We lit a sandnigger on fire." - one of the totally not racially motivated four Danish boys to his girlfriend literally five minutes after the event that got them charged with aggravated assault for acting in self-defense with a molotov cocktail against the sole Afghan kid they lured into an ambush and didn't know what they were doing, freedom fighters to some.

Edit: "My client had a lit bottle in his hand, but he dropped it because it became too hot." - also a direct quote :lol:

SplitSoul fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Apr 20, 2017

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

So the defense allegedly got "hacked" by Russian intelligence, which is to say, one or more people potentially located in Russia sent phishing mails and employees gave them full access to their mail servers. According to a report from the Center for Cyber Security, the department of the Defense Intelligence Services that handles all national surveillance and IT security, nobody bothered to change the passwords for a long time after it was discovered. I've said it before, but it bears repeating: Mogens Glistrup was right about one thing.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Spotify basically has Leon Rosselson's entire catalogue, so they'll be last against the wall.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Singular May 1st political proposal from the Social Democrats: Let's have concentration/rape camps for refugees like the Australians do.

Also, the four perpetrators in the molotov case were released today. The prosecutor is seeking time served and one year probation for setting a person on fire. I'm having to read about it in local newspapers.

SplitSoul fucked around with this message at 02:35 on May 2, 2017

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

evil_bunnY posted:

God loving damnit

Don't worry, they'll probably not get an entire year of probation, and there's still the possibility of a reduced sentence due their ages. Remember that it was only​ an Afghan and the police ruled out racist motives within the first 12 hours.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Randarkman posted:

That would only cause it to collide into Norway...

Yes, but



Nice piece of fish posted:

Like we won't have to accept danish refugees anyway as soon as Greenland melts and puts all of Denmark under water? Eh, move'em to Greenland, actually. They wanted the place bad enough to steal it in the first place, now they can live there.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

V. Illych L. posted:

How is the danish government even surviving

Idiots and Social Democrats, mainly. But I repeat myself.

They just finalised a 20bn DKK deal with them to save the wealthiest homeowners from taxes, while at the same time claiming that there's no money for welfare. It's "financed" with half of the supposed economic latitude provided by additional labour supply from welfare cuts based on, you know, the notoriously unreliable projection models used by the government that literally have the words "rational agents" in the name (Danish Rational Economic Agents Model). They have another model called SMILE.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

V. Illych L. posted:

they are basing their economic policy on a DREAM

well ok

It's referred to as "DREAM-modellen" in regular speech, upsetting pedants everywhere.

And yes, Nils, a model supposing the existence of "rational agents" is obviously socialist. Good call.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Revelation 2-13 posted:

(left and right governments have used this)

Last time this country had a remotely left-wing government was 1982. Nyrup was responsible for the largest number of privatisations of any government in Danish history.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Even if he was a proper Social Democrat he'd still be a Social Democrat.

Edit: 4-6 months in juvie with time served and 8-12 months probation for the four youths. Quelle surprise.

SplitSoul fucked around with this message at 15:48 on May 4, 2017

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Inger Støjberg knowingly issued an illegal instruction against the recommandations of her officials. The issue was separating couples in asylum centers based on age disparity. Previously, each case had been evaluated individually as the law required, and anyone underage was of course separated outright. Støjberg forced the separation of anyone under 18 without review. She was told by her subordinates that this was illegal, in breach of international conventions and existing Danish law, but proceeded regardless. The Ombudsman has strongly criticised the move and experts in administrative law are calling it a very serious, impeachable offense, comparing it to the Tamil-case of yore. This would rest on her immunity being revoked by parliament, so of course it's not going to happen, because the Danish People's Party is fine with literally anything, as long as it somehow hurts refugees (such as a lot of couples aged 17 to 19). The Liberal spokesman on immigration, Marcus Knuth, has said that the opposition must just like child brides and that it's okay for a Minister to "follow her own moral compass", even if it goes against the law, roundly ignoring the fact that these couples were already being separated as required based on individual evaluation, that the issue is her knowingly instructing subordinates to break the law.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Lima posted:

V's attempt to spin any opposition to this as "OH YOU MUST BE PRO CHILD BRIDES HUUUUH?" is so transparent and should be ripped to shreds.

They're going to get away with it, just like they're going to get away with not registering the e-mail from her jurists warning her, as required by law.

Edit: Like I said, http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/df-freder-stoejberg-ulovlig-instruks-seks-dage-foer-samraad

SplitSoul fucked around with this message at 20:18 on May 26, 2017

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Could be worse, you could have Social Democrats that consistently voted with Liberals and Conservatives while simultaneously courting the brownshirts. Give it a few years.


Now Inger Støjberg is claiming that it was just a "press release" and not an actual instruction, despite using that exact word numerous times in response to opposition criticism and in her reply to the Ombudsman. At the same time, she claims to have instructed her officials to keep obeying the law, yet a written record of this curiously doesn't exist.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Lima posted:

Another month, another new anti-immigration party.
This time a lefty one - http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/forfatter-stifter-indvandrerkritisk-venstrefloejsparti

It's called National Socialism. :smug:

Still amused at the Liberals' damage control regarding Inger Støjberg. This is the same party that let a convicted child rapist run for office again.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

So, how about that dude who tried to run down those Iraqi protesters? It's barely getting coverage here.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000



http://www.bt.dk/udland/hver-femte-dansker-muslimer-var-selv-skyld-i-terrorangrebet

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Major parties from right to centre agree that prayer rooms in high schools are in fact crypto-Islamism and must be stopped. Turns out they're mainly used by Christians. Marie Krarup (Danish People's Party, fundamentalist Christian) exclaims, "Something must be wrong with the facts."

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

A Buttery Pastry posted:

Hey, if they're gonna let a fear of Muslims result in a weakening of Christianity/religion in general within schools, then who are we to complain?

I doubt religious people will stop being religious because they're denied a little corner to do their thing. They're also used by people who just want some peace and quiet.

But it's symptomatic of the fierce projection in the Danish People's Party:

http://politiken.dk/debat/analyse/art5458597/Findes-der-flere-parallelsamfund

quote:

Dansk Folkepartis vælgere er således på flere områder langt mere autoritært og patriarkalsk indstillede end både den øvrige befolkning generelt og de muslimer, der bor i Danmark.

Dansk Folkepartis vælgere er f.eks. langt mere tilbøjelige til at mene, at det er acceptabelt at bruge revselse i børneopdragelsen, og at det er acceptabelt at arbejde sort, end det er tilfældet for den øvrige befolkning og det muslimske mindretal.

Dansk Folkepartis vælgere er ligeledes mere enige i, at dødsstraffen bør genindføres i Danmark, end andre grupper i samfundet.

4 ud af 10 af Dansk Folkepartis vælgere mener, at det er acceptabelt at give sine børn en lussing eller en endefuld – og en lige så stor andel mener, at sort arbejde er acceptabelt.

Til sammenligning mener kun 13 pct. af de øvrige danskere og 7 pct. af muslimerne i Danmark, at revselse af børn er acceptabelt, og 14 pct. og 13 pct. af hhv. den øvrige befolkning og muslimerne i Danmark mener, at sort arbejde er acceptabelt.

Cirka en fjerdedel af Dansk Folkepartis vælgere (23 pct.) støtter genindførelsen af dødsstraf i Danmark. Blandt den øvrige befolkning mener ca. hver tiende (9 pct.), at dødsstraffen bør genindføres, og blandt muslimerne i Danmark støtter 15 pct. dødsstraf.

Når det gælder spørgsmålet om mænds og kvinders roller i familien, ligger Dansk Folkepartis vælgere væsentlig tættere på muslimerne i Danmark, end man skulle tro, hvis man lyttede til Pia Kjærsgaard og Co.

Hver tiende af Dansk Folkepartis vælgere mener således ganske overraskende, at kvinder bør passe hjemmet og tage sig af børnene i stedet for at arbejde.

Dette svarer til billedet blandt de muslimer, der bor i Danmark, idet også hver tiende af de danske muslimer mener, at kvindens plads er i hjemmet. I den øvrige befolkning har denne holdning kun meget begrænset udbredelse – kun 1 pct. deler den.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Naser Khader, who recently came out in favour of literal old school colonialism, is backing the Danish People's Party in their call to mobilise the military to fight gang crime.

I'm currently residing inside a no-probable-cause-required-zone.

Rust Martialis posted:

I'm moving to Denmark this month from Canada. The state of Danish politics still befuddles me after the OP, and as a non-citizen I suppose I have time to learn. I'll be joining PROSA as I have a job at NNIT. My Danish so far is via completing Duolingo and repeatedly redoing lessons, so I suspect reading a deep review of Danish politics in Danish is going to have to wait... Anden spiser ikke kød, etc.

I've worked there, enjoy the awesome cafeteria.

Condoleezza Nice! posted:

What happened to Enhedslisten?

They're preparing their voters for further rightward shifts, completing the last stage of the metamorphosis into Social Democrats, and have recently said that immigration is a topic not worthy of final demands in future coalition negotiations. They've obviously learned very little from the shitshow last time, where they notably voted in favour of welfare cuts and war. Wonder how that will turn out if Social Democrat Henrik Sass gets his way and they institute "Australian model" third world concentration/rape camps for refugees.

Lima posted:

Everyone wants a slice of DF's pie, including the social democrats.

Nye Borgerlige exists solely because ~10% of the electorate wants a more strict immigration policy than what DF offers. The founder had never mentioned immigrants or refugess before but she really really really wants to be in the parliement.

Also, they seem to have a bit of an issue with neo-nazis and Holocaust deniers and violent criminals and people defending molotov attacks on children constantly joining their ranks, but oh well, that's Danish politics for ya. :shrug:

A Buttery Pastry posted:

The Social Democrats changed against the wishes of the voter population, hence losing about a third of their voters.

Two years into Thorning's leadership they were lower in the polls than they'd been since before Systemskiftet. That's quite an accomplishment.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

There's been a spate of gang shootings in Copenhagen recently, so the government is going to let the military do police work now, instead of dropping the useless border patrol that takes up 10% of the police budget.

SplitSoul fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Aug 13, 2017

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

A Buttery Pastry posted:

This is like two levels of dumb. Why not pull the police back to Copenhagen and have the military guard the borders, if you want the borders guarded and more policing?

You're talking about the same people who wanted to ban burqas and established a burqa commission only to find out that nobody actually wore it. But really, military should only be deployed during invasions.

On the other hand, maybe having soldiers confiscate jewelry from refugees will drive the point home for some people. Probably not.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Zzulu posted:

Why not simply sink Denmark into the sea? Seems like that would be better for everyone

You have a strong argument and I must concede. If chalky water shat us into existence, it can surely reclaim us.

*lights a candle for Stig Helmer*

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SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

MiddleOne posted:

Agreed, but I don't see political violence as helpful in stopping us from getting there.

Just gonna quote Hitler here:

"Only one thing could have stopped our movement – if our adversaries had understood its principle and from the first day smashed with the utmost brutality the nucleus of our new movement."

As our respective governments show no inclination to nip this in the bud, choosing instead the avenue of appeasement or indifference, it is incumbent on regular citizens to act in self-defense. Fascism as an ideology is built around the application of extreme violence. It is the only language it speaks or respects. This has been true historically and nothing has changed in that regard.

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