Scandinavia: I know I shit on Denmark a lot, but I think they deserve it

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A Buttery Pastry: Sep 4, 2011; Delicious and Informative!

Since no one else is going to do a write-up of Danish political parties, I might as well. In descending order of votes:

The Social Democrats, led by Helle Thorning-Schmidt, have taken a beating in recent years. They are however still the largest party in parliament. Their main ideological plank is getting into power, and being seen around famous people and powerful world leaders. Their main supporters are people hoping the party returns to what it was 30 years ago.

The Danish People's Party needs little introduction, having made their presence known on the European stage as their support has grown. Should the Social Democrats once again fail to address the issues which most worry their electorate, they could easily become the largest party in parliament in the next election. Should this happen, the party promises to subsidize pork consumption, and make its consumption mandatory in schools. The party is also a great supporter of sports and outdoors life, and see it as a way to take unruly kids off the streets and teach them discipline and order, and hopefully win glory and honor for Denmark at international competitions.

A traditional liberal party and the party of farmers, they are for free markets and opposed to government intervention. The main focus of the current government has been to do everything in their power to support Danish farmers, through deregulation and redefining agricultural lands as nature. Whether this is enough to prevent a further loss of voters to the Danish People's Party only time will tell. Chances are, the powerful but increasingly threatened pig-farming lobby will lend their support to the Danish People's Party, as they are ideologically primed to support them no matter the cost.

The Red-Green Alliance is the primary party of left-leaning youths, attracted by the political memes Johanne Schmidt-Nielsen posts straight from parliament and Johanne herself. Has seen strong growth in recent years, due to the failures of traditional left-leaning parties.

A new political party, the Liberal Alliance has been created as a response to the right-wing shift in Danish politics. The party is the main supporter of racial and sexual equality in parliament.

A Danish version of the German Alternative f�r Deutschland, the party is one to watch out for. Their leader was formally a member of the Radical Left, which he was forced to leave after an intra-party struggle over whether the party should continue to be internationalist in the face of unchecked immigration. Wants Denmark to leave the EU and pursue a strong independent Danish state for Danes.

The Radical Left is a traditional Danish communist party, which has lost a lot of support in recent years, especially after the intra-party struggle which created The Alternative. The party has now elected the young Morten �stergaard in an attempt to attract the youth vote and distinguish itself further from The Alternative.

What is there to say? The Socialist People's Party chased the populist vote but couldn't keep up, and now the party is falling apart. Their voters will likely be subsumed into The Alternative as Denmark lurches more and more to the right.

Once upon a time a powerful ally of the near-absolute king, the current party has seen better days. In recent years, the party has attempted to ride the populist wave, but all this has managed to do is shed their traditional supporters in the Whiskey Belt, who would prefer everything to just not change, ever.

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 21:54

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brylcreem posted:

Nice effort post, but it's a little out of date.

So what you're saying is, everything else about my post is 100% correct? :v:

# ¿ Jun 28, 2016 16:16

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punk rebel ecks posted:

I've heard that the president of Iceland is nothing more than just a figure head. Is that true?

Iceland is not covered by the topic of this thread. Please obey the strict regulations of the thread, lest it fall into chaos.

# ¿ Jul 1, 2016 16:08

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punk rebel ecks posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia

Iceland is to Scandinavia as "Y" is to vowels.

No. Iceland is no more part of Scandinavia than the US is part of the British Isles.

# ¿ Jul 1, 2016 16:33

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Alhazred posted:

But then you also would have to include the Orkney Islands, the part of UK that was under danelaw and Newfoundland. Its slippery slope and the end result is finns and estonians coming to post in the thread.

Well, they do anyway. Might as well rename it Nordic Politics.

punk rebel ecks posted:

Okay fine. So I assume noone will answer my question.

I'm not sure anyone here knows more than you can find in a wikipedia article, unless you manage to get Deceitful Penguin to post in this thread.

# ¿ Jul 1, 2016 18:13

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Baudolino posted:

For time to time someone raises the question. Why not a new Kalmar Union?
Personally i don`t think that is good idea, plus it is redundant since we are all under tyrannical thumb of Brussels anyway.
On the other hand who will avenge the crimes of the Greedy Hansa against the Nordic kingdoms if not us? The North remembers.

We also need to avenge the crimes of the British, though they seem to be doing a good job of it themselves at the moment.

MRLOLAST posted:

Btw, Iceland is definitely part of Scandinavia. Just not geographically part of the peninsula.

# ¿ Jul 2, 2016 14:17

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# ¿ Jul 2, 2016 14:40

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MRLOLAST posted:

Meh 300 000 people where many are related to eachother can probably manage to get along quite well without someone telling them what to do. They just need to keep on keeping on.

They're all descendants of people too murderous and maladjusted to live in viking age Scandinavia though.

# ¿ Jul 2, 2016 16:22

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ThaumPenguin posted:

The Faroe Islands votes to leave the UK and joins in as well.

#Faxit.

But the Faroe Islands aren't part of the UK.

# ¿ Jul 4, 2016 11:12

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Noshtane posted:

Too much foodchat ITT.

Let's talk about Milj�partiet. They have now betrayed pretty much all of their core issues. No nuclear power exit in sight, Vattenfalls coal mines are sold and our borders are tighter than Tupacs first rap album. They didn't do that very good back in 2014, how will they do now with all the broken promises and purges to slow them down? Will we see the end of MP and F! taking their role as the small party filled with oddballs?

Pretty cool that a green party isn't anti-nuclear. Good job Sweden.

# ¿ Jul 5, 2016 12:10

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That's why I said it was cool.

# ¿ Jul 5, 2016 12:27

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MRLOLAST posted:

The Greens have always been an opposition party , they have never been in charge of real decisions before. Just citicising the ones in charge.
They view the world as Stockholm and surrounding areas and think that everyone should travel collectively, preferably by subway. The first thing they did was to proclaim a Palestinian state.
They are not known for their sensible beliefs. I liked them better as a social conscience party to remind us to also think of the environment.

Proclaim a Palestinian state? You mean recognize Palestine? Because that's also a cool thing to do.

# ¿ Jul 5, 2016 12:33

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MRLOLAST posted:

To you yes, but I think a lot of people disagreed.

Yeah, and those people are wrong.

# ¿ Jul 5, 2016 12:52

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Rappaport posted:

I'm so, so sorry

Well, someone needs to invent a device which will send Russia into an alternate dimension.

# ¿ Jul 5, 2016 13:14

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kalstrams posted:

I'm actually on the practical side of things, so how about we accurately measure their radio traffic using a satellite?

Sending Russia into an alternate dimension sounds much more practical to me...

# ¿ Jul 5, 2016 13:39

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evobatman posted:

And the pacification maypussy to fight the patriarchy!

I think you mean mayhole.

# ¿ Jul 8, 2016 12:29

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ThaumPenguin posted:

Our claims of "not being in the EU" are getting closer and closer to being basically pedantry.

You'll be more a part of the EU than Denmark in a few years. :v:

# ¿ Jul 9, 2016 08:18

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Zudgemud posted:

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article23165235.ab

Due to shortages of police, Swedish police recruitment will now start to accept aspirants that are below normal talent in general problem solving.
One would think that maybe, they could instead increase the amount of trained police officers on the street by not spending years upon years shuffling them into administrative duties formerly done by non police officers, but apparently that is out of the question and tasks like passport renewal can not be done by ordinary workers.

Well, I suppose it's still better than the US system, where you have to be dumber than average.

# ¿ Jul 13, 2016 10:44

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An odd request, but here you go.

# ¿ Jul 17, 2016 15:55

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MRLOLAST posted:

Jamie is Danish, Scarlet is..a Johansen.

Another tragic case of goon face blindness.

# ¿ Jul 18, 2016 16:32

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kalstrams posted:

Scarlett is Katheryn Winnick, Canadian-Ukrainian.

Ukrainian in this case clearly meaning of Varangian viking descent.

# ¿ Jul 18, 2016 16:45

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Extreme0 posted:

https://twitter.com/DavidCoburnUKip/status/755102430623326210

How accuate is this statement from the court jester?

100% for Sweden, not at all for Denmark and Norway.

# ¿ Jul 18, 2016 21:30

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MRLOLAST posted:

Sorry for being wrong. I have never heard of that other lady. Not big on celebrities and thought that there was a Scandinavian connection.

I'm sorry, but your crime of anti-white racism is unforgivable.

# ¿ Jul 19, 2016 18:31

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Cardiac posted:

Finally, why does this thread always devolve into hypothetical scenarios of civil war?

It's because the thread is dominated by citizens of Sweden, a country which has a fault line built into its very foundation. They might not be consciously aware of the fact, but the ancestral feud between Swedes and Geats simmers just beneath the surface.

# ¿ Jul 21, 2016 19:17

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V. Illych L. posted:

what is going on here i don't even

People are dropping truths.

# ¿ Jul 23, 2016 05:24

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He's just "winging it".

# ¿ Aug 31, 2016 21:07

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cinci zoo sniper posted:

If anyone comes across the stupid Eurabia argument with person that actually does not mind reading/listening, Statistics Sweden have published figures for 2015.

I don't see anything there that counters the general Eurabia argument, that being that Muslim/Arab population is much more heavily represented in the part of the population that has yet to have children, and that this population is likely to produce more offspring than the rest of the population in the same age group.

# ¿ Sep 16, 2016 16:22

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cinci zoo sniper posted:

That's a very sophisticated argument compared to poo poo I usually hear that overwhelming amount of immigrants in developed EU nations are Arabs.

I only read the most refined racist screeds.

# ¿ Sep 16, 2016 16:31

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Cardiac posted:

Well, considering they are mostly men they sure need to keep the fertility up.

They'll use their exotic charm to woo woman after woman, spreading their genes and influence in a way that's simply impossible for women to match.

# ¿ Sep 16, 2016 18:51

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They'll seem fun when you get to shoot Russian infiltrators.

# ¿ Sep 28, 2016 20:16

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MiddleOne posted:

The weird thing is that it's literally every populist-right party this year up and including a american presidential candidate.

Well, Russia is their main source of financing, so it's not really that strange. Plus they share a lot of goals, such as destroying or weakening the EU.

# ¿ Sep 29, 2016 09:12

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MiddleOne posted:

Yeah that I understand, but why is the rank and file completely unphased by it?

Because now America (and their stooges in the EU) stands for Cultural Marxism, while Russia defends all that is right in the world.

# ¿ Sep 29, 2016 09:41

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Svartvit posted:

"Urban issues", wow.

Urban issues is a short-hand for the density of cafes, fine dining, quirky shops, and underground art galleries in urban areas.

# ¿ Oct 3, 2016 05:26

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Swedes aren't taught about Nazis because the politicians know the population would be all about that poo poo.

# ¿ Oct 13, 2016 05:34

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Historians have a perfectly viable career path in being advisors for historical dramas.

# ¿ Oct 14, 2016 05:57

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cinci zoo sniper posted:

You somewhat sound like the kind of an American who is now going on about the Clinton's election failure with "economic anxiety" and "should've not ostracised the rural vote", yes.

They're right. Hillary lost because she represented an establishment that has completely lost touch with most of its base, causing a lot of the people who voted for Obama to see no point in voting for her, or to vote for the guy who at least acknowledges that their circumstances are terrible. Decades of economic malaise and a candidate selling herself as the status quo candidate does not a winning combination make.

# ¿ Nov 16, 2016 14:08

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cinci zoo sniper posted:

Status quo and somehow fantasizing that Trump will be more, or even comparably, beneficial to the economical situation, both on the whole and for lower income spectrum in particular, are different things, in my opinion. My argument concerns that and the now often mentioned idea that maybe people should've tried to figure out why rural whites hate <slur of the week>. In reality, it is impossible to bring jobs en masse to uneducated rednecks who just hate losing power over others, and see urbanisation/globalisation/equality as a threat. It's funny, since vote against political status-quo is effectively vote for societal status-quo.

You do realize that a lot of the people who decided to sit this election out are African-Americans who have been abandoned time and time again by the Democrats? More generally, the notion that these people are just "rednecks" is just classist deflection from the real issue, as evidenced by the fact that these people voted for a freaking black man with a Muslim name just a few years ago. Yes, a lot of Trump voters would prefer to roll things back to around 1950 or earlier, but those aren't the people Hillary lost. Those were what her campaign believed to be a "blue wall" which would ensure their victory in the Rust Belt no matter what, so they might as well try to flip Arizona and Texas to make her inevitable victory all the sweeter.

MiddleOne posted:

and alliance policies virtually guaranteeing that the youth such as me had to find occupation elsewhere with the lack of jobs effectively leaving everyone else alone in their misery.

This incidentally mirrors the establishment liberal approach in the US to an entire region basically dying due to their (and the Republicans') policies. All the young people should just move to the coast where the winners are and become a banker/coder/entrepreneurs, then the racist and backwards culture they come from can finally die out for good.

# ¿ Nov 16, 2016 14:53

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cinci zoo sniper posted:

but I do not follow why are you trying to discuss American domestic politics in Scandinavian politics thread.

Because this

cinci zoo sniper posted:

You somewhat sound like the kind of an American who is now going on about the Clinton's election failure with "economic anxiety" and "should've not ostracised the rural vote", yes.

makes you sound very dismissive of the whole "reaction to decades of neoliberal hegemony" concept, which is not a US specific phenomenon but applicable to the situation in Scandinavia as well.

# ¿ Nov 16, 2016 15:36

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cinci zoo sniper posted:

I'm dismissive of the notion that this is the sole reason Americans voted for Trump, which is a thing I've heard far too many times in the last week. I'd like to think that we all can do better than throwing minority groups under the bus for a change's sake.

It's the reason the people who wouldn't always have voted for a Republican voted for him. There's nothing about economic justice that implies throwing minority groups under the bus, in fact, minority groups generally stand to gain the most from economic justice. The notion that it's an either or thing is just liberals afraid that the poor are going to come take their money.

# ¿ Nov 16, 2016 15:49

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 21:54

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cinci zoo sniper posted:

I feel that we both are talking past each other at this point.

Only because you keep dodging.

# ¿ Nov 16, 2016 17:20

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