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 What Culture Pro Wrestling is the newest promotion to come out of the crowded English indie wrestling scene. It's created by Youtube listacle creators cum money marks. The matches are typically disappointingly booked and too short. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBwVHIVjmp0 Current roster and upcoming event info can be found here. All previous matches and a bunch of dumb list videos can be found on the WCPW Youtube Channel  We don't give a gently caress about spoilers
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I assumed this would be a joke promotion, but if they can get guys like Lethal and Ospreay then this might actually be something worth following. (Obligatory "put the belt on Jack the Jobber" comment goes here)
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Jun 28, 2016 06:32
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Episode 1, because gently caress making a G+ account to make playlists: Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqyYx8OgLN0 Adam Pacitti, WCPW GM, introduces the first match and we're introduced to the commentary team of King Ross and Simon Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvbcKXyM5eM Alex Gracie vs Gabriel Kidd vs Joseph Conners in a fatal three way. Part 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyBdsblaK3c El Ligero vs Martin Kirby Part 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX-fviRVjX0 Prince Ameen vs Joe Coffey Part 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUyqHh5Hxjo The Battle for Jack the Jobber between Big Damo and Joe Hendry, the Local Hero Part 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvR3A3qzWVM Pacitti unveils the WCPW belt, and Blampied is a massive oval office to everybody. DPM fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Jun 28, 2016 |
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Jun 28, 2016 06:34
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How can you put all those guys in the OP and not include Joe Hendry, LOCAL HERO I'll have to check this out, I'm not really a fan of What Culture but that's a good roster assuming any of those guys show up regularly.
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Jun 28, 2016 22:26
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StarkRavingMad posted:How can you put all those guys in the OP and not include Joe Hendry, LOCAL HERO I barely know what I'm doing here. Will add the Singing Superstar to the OP though. (e: I have added everyone from the Roster with some documented history) Keen to hear what people thought of Episode 1? Obviously things are very small scale right now as they get themselves set up. As I mentioned in the thread title, the ring was hilariously small and I really didn't care for the second match between Ligero and Kirby. I know they're shoot friends and do a lot of work together, but I feel the comedy squash stuff went on for too long. I also really liked the ending of the Damo vs Hendry match, Jack really sold his dismay and I'm interested to see what they do with Hendry from here. DPM fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Jun 29, 2016 |
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Jun 29, 2016 00:43
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DumbparameciuM posted:I barely know what I'm doing here. Will add the Singing Superstar to the OP though. (e: I have added everyone from the Roster with some documented history) Like you said, things are small scale, but for all the low budgetness of it, they have good camera work and it looks crisp. The wrestling seems decent enough for who they had on the initial episode, and if they can get the guys they say they are getting to appear semi regularly, it seems like it could put out some good stuff. Like you said, the Ligero/Kirby match wasn't great. I skipped around a lot, so I don't have a real impression on the storyline stuff with the what culture guys, I just checked out the matches. Seems like something worth keeping an eye on.
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Jun 29, 2016 02:43
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Oh, I checked this out yesterday. I'm barely aware of What Culture and its staff/content, although I know Simon Miller from his Videogamer antics. I also know poo poo about the British indie wrestling scene. The wrestling was okay, a lot of non-finishes though. I really didn't like the Indian dude and he got like, HOURS on the mic. Triple Threat was good, I actually liked the comedy match and the #1 Contender was a'ight - I think Hendry's entrance overshadowed the match itself, but that's because it was a drat good entrance. Commentary was bad. Like, Simon tried to call the matches, green as he was, but the King dude was obnoxious, distracting and made a lot of jokes that just fell flat, the bickering was awkward and went on for too long, and they spoke over entrances and promos, which is something I personally hate. It being added in post also stiffened up the calls. Adam was miles better as a heel commentator, by the way, the last match had the best commentary easy. Production-wise it was way better than I expected from an Youtube promotion. Like, stuff is obviously not at a professional level but for a first show it's not bad at all. There's something about the audio mixing that makes it very clear commentary is added in post, but that's every goddamn indie video I've ever seen so who cares. EDIT: oh, the booking for the main event is kinda weird to me, it's a Miz-ish heel against...another heel? I mean, from promo stuff and the start of the match he felt like a babyface, but he worked heel and tried to use a chair? So the other guy was babyface, but he didn't feel like one? Dias fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Jun 29, 2016 |
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Jun 29, 2016 05:13
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is this the same what culture that posts lovely wrestling lists on youtube
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Jun 29, 2016 05:50
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HulkaMatt posted:is this the same what culture that posts lovely wrestling lists on youtube Yep
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Jun 29, 2016 05:54
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This is going to lose so much money.
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Jun 29, 2016 06:17
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhoq4dDT8Xo Ligero vs Jay Lethal on next weeks episode of WCPW.
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Jul 1, 2016 23:54
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Episode 2 is up now! Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le9_IgRBhxg Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAhc0dvYOwY Part 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbg9RDjqqGs Part 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEBpxRoVIlg Part 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvQsQMiOYqk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBNLigC03yg Here's hoping the bigger venue quashes the noise of the Smarks a bit. They've been the worst part for me so far.
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Jul 5, 2016 03:54
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IT'S YERSEL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYSsoj7zdrY GRADO IN WCPW!
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Jul 5, 2016 23:07
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All of this looks incredibly bad.
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Jul 5, 2016 23:08
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Op are you affiliated with this promotion?
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Jul 5, 2016 23:11
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:Op are you affiliated with this promotion? He should put up posters.
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Jul 5, 2016 23:12
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There is an inherent charm to it all, with the low rent building and and awkward humor and really good wrestlers. The what culture guys really don't add much to the show, if not hurt it all together, but without them they likely wouldn't sell as many tickets. I'm happy there is a showcase for all the great wrestlers over there now even if it is packaged in a strange way.
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Jul 5, 2016 23:35
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I just want more Joe Hendry entrances and support anything that furthers that goal.
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Jul 5, 2016 23:51
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:Op are you affiliated with this promotion? I'd be doing a pretty lovely job if I was. Nobody else was posting the poo poo. I asked about it in the "Wrestling questions which don't deserve a thread" thread and wasn't immediately hatefucked into the ground like I was expecting, so I started this thread. Optimist with doubt posted:There is an inherent charm to it all, with the low rent building and and awkward humor and really good wrestlers. The what culture guys really don't add much to the show, if not hurt it all together, but without them they likely wouldn't sell as many tickets. I'm happy there is a showcase for all the great wrestlers over there now even if it is packaged in a strange way. ^^^ Basically this. They have some legit interesting talent appearing for them, and I'm interested to see if it goes anywhere. I only have a fairly basic level of wrestling knowledge, and was hoping that the matches might spark some interesting conversation despite the dodgy, first time-ness of it all. Instead it seems like some people want to be cunts about it for no real reason? DPM fucked around with this message at 12:44 on Jul 6, 2016 |
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Jul 6, 2016 11:37
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RacistGuidingLight posted:He should put up posters. lol But yeah I've seen far worse than this promotion. There's some neat wrestling in it
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Jul 6, 2016 20:05
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Watched some stuff here and there. Lethal vs Ligero was pretty good. Most of the other wrestling seems fine, but nothing I'd go out of my way to see. Not at all into the What Culture personalities or the comedy skits. Overall, not really a promotion I'll be following, but it has the potential to produce individual matches worth checking out. Also, the "fight forever" chants in the Lethal-Ligero match have ruined that chant for me.
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Jul 6, 2016 21:27
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A lot of wrestlers that I like, that are spoken for by more prestigious organizations. They are likely to put on an alright match, but not really break out the A material. Sandow's kind of a vagabond so he could go either way on the effort scale. The local talent is local talent. I don't know what What Culture is but I assume it's bad.
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Jul 6, 2016 22:26
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Pinstripe Hourglass posted:This is going to lose so much money.
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Jul 6, 2016 23:10
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Pinstripe Hourglass posted:This is going to lose so much money. It depends on what their Youtube take is like. That Lethal vs El Ligero video has over 100,000 views. The other vids for episode 2 are less, but don't dip below 50,000. Internet suggests the rate for views is around $2.50 per 1000 for partners, which is gently caress all really. But it is another revenue source on top of door sales.
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Jul 8, 2016 11:52
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Hendry, Damo, Noam and Coffey? Doing (potentially) regular stints? Wonder how Mark Dallas feels about all this...
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Jul 8, 2016 12:47
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I liked the wrestling on the first two episodes so far. They really need to work on commentary though. I watched the King Ross video on Episode 2 and apparently the commentators were only given the hard camera footage to work with while they were commentating, which made them talk over some spots where I would've loved to hear the wrestlers trash talking each other. That's only half an excuse though. The two guys couldn't stop talking, especially Ross. It seemed like if there was any silence, he felt that he needed to fill it, and it got kinda painful. If they can learn when they need to talk and when they can just let wrestlers do wrestling things, I'm sure it'll hold a decent fanbase. Ligero vs. Lethal was loving great.
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Jul 8, 2016 12:52
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StarkRavingMad posted:I just want more Joe Hendry entrances and support anything that furthers that goal.
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Jul 8, 2016 18:47
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those what culture guys are pretty abysmal, but if they're giving money to wrestlers, that's cool
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Jul 9, 2016 00:16
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Benne posted:I assumed this would be a joke promotion, but if they can get guys like Lethal and Ospreay then this might actually be something worth following. Thanks bro.
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Jul 9, 2016 18:22
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Enjoyed the first couple of episodes well enough. There's been some really odd booking decisions for a bunch of smarks, but I'll probably keep watching for now. Simon/Ross remind me of Gorilla Monsoon and Bobby Heenan, and that's not really a good thing.
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Jul 9, 2016 18:32
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Epside 3 of WCPW Loaded is up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXhFFEUtS7Q Joe Hendry right off the bat. YOU LOVE IT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI04cCpFt_Q Joe Coffey Vs Primate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZgFxM4sYqU Drake vs Big Damo. Quick Jay Lethal promo right at the end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0xd6vLvOnI Tag match; The Prospects vs Myers and Mercer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfpbZvrp9FQ Ligero vs Kirby https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQng0YZBbDo Hendry vs Rampage
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Jul 12, 2016 10:11
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The Wrestling is still pretty nice (thoughts vary on Kirby vs Ligero and their comedy feud, personally I like it) and commentary was much better this week in my opinion with Ross solo and in combination with Adam. No idea why Coffey vs Primate needed a random gently caress finish though. Would have made more sense the other way around as with a beast asking for a wrench seems odd.
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Jul 12, 2016 12:14
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Why do they have to upload their shows in multiple parts? That's annoying.
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Jul 12, 2016 23:01
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wagnike2 posted:Why do they have to upload their shows in multiple parts? That's annoying. I'd assume either an account restriction, or some kind of YouTube metric that suggests longer videos get fewer views?
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Jul 12, 2016 23:07
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Gaz-L posted:I'd assume either an account restriction, or some kind of YouTube metric that suggests longer videos get fewer views? You can watch the whole thing in one go if you catch the livestream, though obviously it's broadcast during a UK timeslot.
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Jul 13, 2016 00:29
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Jul 13, 2016 00:57
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wagnike2 posted:Why do they have to upload their shows in multiple parts? That's annoying. Get more views per event by breaking it up, I'd guess.
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Jul 13, 2016 05:10
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wagnike2 posted:Why do they have to upload their shows in multiple parts? That's annoying. You get more YT dolla for five/six videos than you do for one. e: Grado and now Moose confirmed for the next ep of WCPW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMN_mcWuOok DPM fucked around with this message at 13:07 on Jul 13, 2016 |
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Jul 13, 2016 09:03
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Hace posted:Get more views per event by breaking it up, I'd guess. it is 100% this. YT no longer has upload limits that would get in the way of something like this, they could upload a 4 hour show if they wanted to. they just don't want to because it is significantly suboptimal to do that. it is a niche thing so there is a very high likelihood that if a viewer watches one part of a show they will watch all of the parts, so why not juice those views and the ad revenue? you can turn one source of ad revenue into 8 that way. additionally, having a lot of highly viewed videos which are watched all the way through increases your search rankings (both per individual video and channel wide) so if they break up all their videos into shorter ones they can boost the search rankings of everything gradually, making it more likely to be near the top of a search for specific performers. videos that are clicked out of partway through will get a lower ranking than videos which are fully viewed, so if they uploaded it into one large block then all of the show would receive fewer full views from viewers burning out, which will tank the ranking. complete views are weighted much more heavily than total views, so most outlets will want to ensure their content is presented in a digestible way ensure view completion. basically they are playing the SEO game, so if you google or search YT for "Moose pro wrestler" one of their matches is more likely to appear as the recommended video. Another Person fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Jul 14, 2016 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pomKsS83xNU For one night only: Eric Bischoff?!
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