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Yost isn't accounting for the New Jersey variable, where nothing makes any drat mathematical sense there. He might turn into Karlsson in Edmonton.
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Jul 5, 2016 20:37
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Aphrodite posted:Yost isn't accounting for the New Jersey variable, where nothing makes any drat mathematical sense there. He might turn into Karlsson in Edmonton. we are going to find out that new jersey's extremely favorable home scorer has been responsible for larsson looking like a decent defenseman in the numbers, and it turns out he's actually the biggest sieve in the league
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Jul 5, 2016 20:41
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Larsson has never really been a scorer at any level so I'm not sure where this idea that he's going to suddenly develop those offensive instincts comes from. He also didn't really light up the world on a roster that featured Kovalchuk and Parise in their primes, although to be fair he was a rookie that year and I don't think he had much of a chance to play with them.
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Jul 5, 2016 20:47
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Aye Doc posted:we are going to find out that new jersey's extremely favorable home scorer has been responsible for larsson looking like a decent defenseman in the numbers, and it turns out he's actually the biggest sieve in the league Quick, class, pick out when Mark Fayne started playing for the Oilers. 
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Jul 5, 2016 20:51
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Marklar posted:No seriously, restaurants are great, great investments and always successful ventures! CHRIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSST it's almost always a goddamn bar/restaurant. It's always some friend or brother of the player/coach and it's this totally can't-miss idea and "I saw on Bar Rescue where...."
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Jul 5, 2016 20:54
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Just point them at a pancake house in some random strip mall and tell them to watch the sign above the door for 2 years. Maybe when they see it change three times they'll figure it out.
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Jul 5, 2016 20:58
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edmonton still owes boston a 2nd for hiring peter and he couldnt get new jersey to toss one in. or literally anything else gently caress you peter
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Jul 5, 2016 20:59
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In Avery's article he actually talks about how he's set up well now, owning a few bars and restaurants.
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Jul 5, 2016 21:02
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DJExile posted:CHRIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSST it's almost always a goddamn bar/restaurant. It's always some friend or brother of the player/coach and it's this totally can't-miss idea and "I saw on Bar Rescue where...." Feel lucky that you never saw someone cash in their life savings to start an ostrich farm. Ginette Reno posted:Quick, class, pick out when Mark Fayne started playing for the Oilers. There's an actual impact crater somewhere around Rexall Place
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Jul 5, 2016 21:05
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Aye Doc posted:i believe a given point on the X-axis is the set of games within the sample where Larsson (or the Devils w/o Larsson) were at xx% offensive zone deployment ok that's what i thought. i'd guess that the sample size above a certain OZ% threshold would decrease dramatically, and i wouldn't be surprised if that threshold is pretty close to where you see the GF start to drop off. doesn't give me a ton of confidence in drawing the conclusion that the discrepancy between CF% and GF in the high OZS% situations is because larsson can't produce high quality chances, as opposed to just being an artifact of small N anyway, getting a bit pedantic, but i was curious about the way some of those stats are derived. there's not going to be any way to cut the stats that make it look like anything but an historically bad trade for the oilers though lol peter
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Jul 5, 2016 21:11
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Andy Greene giveth and Andy Greene taketh soon Larsson shall learn
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Jul 5, 2016 21:12
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grack posted:Feel lucky that you never saw someone cash in their life savings to start an ostrich farm. It's the meat of the future.
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Jul 5, 2016 21:13
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Sharks Eat Bear posted:ok that's what i thought. i'd guess that the sample size above a certain OZ% threshold would decrease dramatically, and i wouldn't be surprised if that threshold is pretty close to where you see the GF start to drop off. doesn't give me a ton of confidence in drawing the conclusion that the discrepancy between CF% and GF in the high OZS% situations is because larsson can't produce high quality chances, as opposed to just being an artifact of small N The only way this reflects well on Chiarelli is if Hall does poorly for the next 2-3 years (likely because he's injured) and Larsson has a serious improvement. And it would still be a bad trade because it's awful asset management. It doesn't matter if he gets lucky and everything comes up Pete, you shouldn't make trades that only work if you get lucky.
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Jul 5, 2016 21:40
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fits posted:edmonton still owes boston a 2nd for hiring peter and he couldnt get new jersey to toss one in. or literally anything else the compensation rule was bullshit but im pretty drat happy with the way it benefitted the penguins during its short lifetime
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Jul 5, 2016 22:14
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DJExile posted:CHRIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSST it's almost always a goddamn bar/restaurant. It's always some friend or brother of the player/coach and it's this totally can't-miss idea and "I saw on Bar Rescue where...." Hey now... Shaq owns a bunch if 5 Guys! You can too!
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Jul 5, 2016 22:29
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Actually I think a fast food franchise is usually a fairly safe bet, isn't it?
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Jul 5, 2016 22:30
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Aphrodite posted:Actually I think a fast food franchise is usually a fairly safe bet, isn't it? Peyton Manning owns something like all of the papa johns franchises in Colorado. A state with legal weed. Yeah, its a safe bet.
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Jul 5, 2016 22:33
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Larsson sounds a lot like Brian Dumoulin. I really like Brian Dumoulin but I'd have been ecstatic if I'd heard the Penguins traded him for Taylor Hall.
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Jul 5, 2016 22:36
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Yeah franchising is one thing, I'm talking about the guys who want to build restaurants and bars and think they can totally run it themselves because "Well how hard could it be?" If you wanna throw some money into a place that's going to be managed and run by someone who's done this stuff before and knows what they're doing, go to town.
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Jul 5, 2016 22:36
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About 60% of restaurants fail within 3 years, and a huge number of those are ones with active, enthusiastic, dedicated owners. To think you can make one work just because you put your dumb name on it is crazy.
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Jul 5, 2016 22:39
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Ian Anderson apparently did pretty well owning a Scottish salmon farm. Maybe more folks should get on that train.
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Jul 5, 2016 22:46
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fire gorton
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Jul 5, 2016 22:50
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Tootoo is a Blackhawk now?  Quenneville's mandatory meathead has been identified I guess.
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Jul 5, 2016 22:55
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All aboard for arbitration! http://www.nhlpa.com/news/24-players-elect-salary-arbitration
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Jul 5, 2016 22:59
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congrats jared coreau on your big payday
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Jul 5, 2016 23:01
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Boomer The Cannon posted:All aboard for arbitration! Don't make Schenn cry Hexy 
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Jul 5, 2016 23:11
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The Rangers are so loving screwed and bridge contracts suck. I honestly don't want Kreider to get a big payday because he doesn't seem to give a poo poo for most of the season.
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Jul 5, 2016 23:12
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grack posted:The Devils keep pucks away from their own net but the team doesn't put them in the opposing net when they are on the ice. FTFY That said, still super stoked to see Hall and Rico back on a line together. I know TayTay has great 5v5 numbers, but why isn't he a top PP guy as well? Was Edmonton deploying him shittily or is he just too dumb to run plays?
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Jul 5, 2016 23:18
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LmaoTheKid posted:The Rangers are so loving screwed and bridge contracts suck. Agreed. Dude is inconsistent AF. None of those dudes should get huge raises. Earn your loving rate, God damnit.
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Jul 5, 2016 23:25
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Wamsutta posted:Agreed. Dude is inconsistent AF. I'd like for them to lock up Miller for 3 or 4 years. He took a while to colic but I think he's found his game.
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Jul 5, 2016 23:34
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Chad Sexington posted:FTFY
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Jul 6, 2016 00:00
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Ginette Reno posted:Quick, class, pick out when Mark Fayne started playing for the Oilers. Mark Fayne is the thing that would have me terrified about this deal if I were an Oilers fans.. like I know that Fayne did not have the draft pedigree that Adam Larsson has, but I still remember the articles from even the analytics guys praising the signing of under-rated / tough zone starts / stealth corsi monster Mark Fayne by the Edmonton Oilers. He had one good year on the top pairing (playing a remarkably similar role with Andy Greene to what Larsson did last year) and then he flopped in Edmonton because he has 0 offensive instincts and couldn't handle playing in a system that isn't as rigidly structured as the one that New Jersey uses. I'm not saying that Adam Larsson is going to be a huge disaster in Edmonton, but the potential is real..
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Jul 6, 2016 00:36
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Athletes with failed restaurants, you say? Vince Carter's was the real-life incarnate of Broken Lizard's Slammin' Salmon: ornate, massive, overpriced, only in Daytona instead of Miami. It closed earlier this year. xzzy posted:To be fair, normal people are idiots with money too. Drive through a trailer park sometime and count the luxury sedans. I'm a landlord and rented a three-bedroom house to a truck driver who was making $80k a year, yet was late on his rent monthly because he was finishing payments on his pickup truck and also had payments on rented furniture and a massive TV. He finally got to where the truck was paid off, paid on time two months in a row, and started stumbling again. The motherfucker had taken out a lease on a Camaro to go along with the truck.
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Jul 6, 2016 03:01
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Wayne Chrebet is probably one of the 5 or 10 most popular Jets of the last 20 years, if not ever, and his restaurant loving tanked pretty much right out of the gate. Maybe that had more to do with it being in the shadow of the Coliseum, square in the middle of the Uniondale/West Hempstead ghetto, but that's a whole different can of worms
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Jul 6, 2016 03:15
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Oh are we discussing failed hockey player investments again? I watched Shayne Corson open a sports bar in the dumbest area of town, thrive for about 6 months until everyone realized the food was poo poo and the staff were all hand picked by Corson and horrible at their jobs, then go under about a year later. Yet his mother has owned and operated the restaurant behind my house for like 35 loving years and its always packed. Why couldnt he ask her to run everything? 
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Jul 6, 2016 03:28
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Starsfan posted:Mark Fayne is the thing that would have me terrified about this deal if I were an Oilers fans.. like I know that Fayne did not have the draft pedigree that Adam Larsson has, but I still remember the articles from even the analytics guys praising the signing of under-rated / tough zone starts / stealth corsi monster Mark Fayne by the Edmonton Oilers. He had one good year on the top pairing (playing a remarkably similar role with Andy Greene to what Larsson did last year) and then he flopped in Edmonton because he has 0 offensive instincts and couldn't handle playing in a system that isn't as rigidly structured as the one that New Jersey uses. one of these days acquiring andy greene's partner will work out
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Jul 6, 2016 04:16
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Poonerman posted:one of these days acquiring andy greene's partner will work out This begs the question of why they didn't just ask for Greene and a pick. I guess they wanted youth. I'm sure they could have asked for Greene and Larsson.
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Jul 6, 2016 04:33
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Furnaceface posted:Oh are we discussing failed hockey player investments again? corson's 27 on crescent? the food loving sucked, but the area is pretty busy though just shows how much more than it sucked. maybe he shouldn't have opened it right after he left town and then pulled that weird retirement thingie in Toronto....
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Jul 6, 2016 05:11
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e: oops
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Poonerman posted:one of these days acquiring andy greene's partner will work out Other teams should almost never trade for or sign Devils, period. Certain guys just thrive in that structure and are lost outside of it. Scott Gomez, David Clarkson, Mark Fayne... were Jason Arnott or Jamie Langenbrunner as good on the Stars? Chad Sexington fucked around with this message at 12:07 on Jul 6, 2016 |
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