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cheerfullydrab posted:Buildings were built with elevator shafts in them before elevators in buildings were invented, just because people were pretty sure it was going to happen soon. And they were right! Optimism isn't always a stupid thing. those were called domestic help disposal shafts, it was just a happy coincidence that elevators fit into them Simstim posted:why not build a railgun that shoots spaceships into the air? im the astronaut that can handle *gauge that goes up to 999Gs pinned* Gs
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bitcoin bastard posted:im the astronaut that can handle *gauge that goes up to 999Gs pinned* Gs you don't stick people in it. it is a way to get around the weight limit of rockets
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Simstim posted:you don't stick people in it. it is a way to get around the weight limit of rockets but how will we ever get to mars like esteemed president george (not h) w bush proclaimed shortly before he invaded a dirt country that already hosed the ussr in the rear end e: im sorry, i shouldnt make this about politics lets make it about your dumb anime avatar instead
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bitcoin bastard posted:but how will we ever get to mars like esteemed president george (not h) w bush proclaimed shortly before he invaded a dirt country that already hosed the ussr in the rear end send spaceships or pieces of spaceships that connect together into orbit without any people on it, then the people come in a capsule attached to a rocket and then attach the capsule to the spaceship.
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Simstim posted:send spaceships or pieces of spaceships that connect together into orbit without any people on it, then the people come in a capsule attached to a rocket and then attach the capsule to the spaceship. you just gave me a great idea buddy and before you ask, no its not anime
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Jul 3, 2016 10:01
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I gotta say guys, this thread makes the space shuttle look like a short bus. 
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Jul 3, 2016 10:07
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Same but the hyperloop
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If god wanted man to ride elevators he would have made him with one of those buttons that you push with the little arrows on it
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8 track betamax posted:If god wanted man to ride elevators he would have made him with one of those buttons that you push with the little arrows on it if god wanted chinese people to ride escalators he would have asked for a sacrifice oh wait
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We don't need a space elevator to go to the stars or create a bunch of huge super-spaceships or anything. 1. Get rockets to the asteroid belt, attach them to asteroids, put asteroids on course to impact Earth. 2. Asteroids hit Earth, break it into many very manageable pieces. 3. Attach rockets to these pieces. Explore the universe! See, this is how we can put the entire human race in space without any stupid rear end costly elevator.
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Jul 3, 2016 10:34
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This thread inspired me to watch Event Horizon again. Movie owns some serious bones
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In the latest Neal Stephenson doorstopper, problems like this are solved with whips made of robots. That's not useful or practical, but I'm glad someone is writing about whips made of robots.
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Dzhay posted:In the latest Neal Stephenson doorstopper, problems like this are solved with whips made of robots. That's not useful or practical, but I'm glad someone is writing about whips made of robots. i watched a movie where non-robot whips were used on robots, it was called terminator (1)
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Simstim posted:why not build a railgun that shoots spaceships into the air? It's a lot more practical to use a rocket really. There's a lot of really difficult launch methods posited to try and replace rockets but it misses the fact that there's no real need to replace them because there's nothing fundamentally wrong with rockets. What you need is reuse and mass production no matter your method of launch. Launching more rockets and reusing them seems a lot more achievable than railgun launch, space elevators, etc. (as an aside, space elevators like gun launch could be perfectly practical on various smaller bodies in the solar system) Elukka fucked around with this message at 11:32 on Jul 3, 2016 |
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Even more devastatingly, op, there may be a space elevator but most of space will still not be worth having.
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jBrereton posted:Even more devastatingly, op, there may be a space elevator but most of space will still not be worth having. Where is your conquering spirit, American? smdh
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Gobblecoque posted:stupid science bitches are like "ugh buut we just need to invent space mithril and then boom space elevator now excuse me while i peruse i loving love science and watch doctor who" i loving love science is clickbait internet garbage
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BossRighteous posted:Does anyway have a link to the article exploring all of the horrible destruction such a massive object whipping back to earth after an inevitable malfunction/terrorist attack would cause? It was actually pretty rad. It's also wrong because in order for the collapsing space elevator to have actually existed in the first place, the thing would have to be so lightweight it wouldn't kill anyone even if it directly landed on a person. If they were real, space elevators would be both lamer and less deadly than rockets.
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Someone did the calculations for a space rail gun and it involved heat sinks several square kilometers in size.
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we should prioritise researching the Conjoiner drive, imo
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Get ALL the buckytubes strands and weave the space elevator upwards from the south pole. Something like a gigotious chinese finger trap.
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i learned what a space elevator was by watching anime :-] it's sounds like a really cool idea!!
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Jul 3, 2016 15:25
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What about a really big catapult?
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Earth is the only spaceship I need, OP. OP and everyone else actually.
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What about giant blimps in the upper atmosphere with cables that go up to big satellite stations? That way the station wouldn't have to be geostationary, so the cables could be a whole lot shorter, would burn up on reentry and they could even be powered by wind resistance on the blimps as they are dragged around by the satellites. Then your railguns or catapults or rockets or whatever wouldn't have to reach orbit, they'd just have to land things on the low hanging blimps, and the blimps would pass over the launch zones several times a day.
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the biggest issue here is where do you get the delta V? none of these are viable without a poo poo ton of (preferably clean) power. if you have poo poo tons of energy then the mag rail gun thing is probably the best way to go. space elevators prolly not possible barring some insane advances in materials science (which shouldn't ever be ruled out of course).
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Germstore posted:If it breaks at the base it escapes into space. If it breaks at the counterweight then it falls down to earth. Terrorists would need to get to space to do actual damage. maybe they could TAKE THE SPACE ELEVATOR
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bitcoin bastard posted:yeah the terrorists would have to smuggle a bomb onto some sort of elevator to space in this hypothetical scenario involving a working space elevator The terrorists would be very obvious but the space elevator doorman would allow them through out of fear of appearing racist
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Jul 3, 2016 20:46
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how about a trampoline, like a really big one. i'm talkin HUGE
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Parallax Scroll posted:how about a trampoline, like a really big one. i'm talkin HUGE Reckon they could make it the size of the earth and you'd still crack your nuts on the side rail. 
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Gobblecoque posted:stupid science bitches are like "ugh buut we just need to invent space mithril and then boom space elevator now excuse me while i peruse i loving love science and watch doctor who" This is why I come here, this is a good post
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why don't we just move everything on earth to space that way we won't need an elevator to get it there later
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Can't we just build an elevator tall enough to reach space from the bottom of the mariana trench so it barely passes the surface of the ocean and doesn't kill us when it falls?
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I figure it only takes two figs
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spud posted:Just set up a kickstarter and we will have one built by Christmas. oobie pace elevato
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bitcoin bastard posted:but how will we ever get to mars like esteemed president george (not h) w bush proclaimed shortly before he invaded a dirt country that already hosed the ussr in the rear end Has Lupin III ever gone to space? I bet he has. He probably master thief'd something off of the moon or whatever.
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Moridin920 posted:the biggest issue here is where do you get the delta V? none of these are viable without a poo poo ton of (preferably clean) power. Rockets are actually pretty good for this.
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GAYS FOR DAYS posted:oobie nanotubes piled high
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cheerfullydrab posted:Buildings were built with elevator shafts in them before elevators in buildings were invented, just because people were pretty sure it was going to happen soon. And they were right! Optimism isn't always a stupid thing. A bizarre example. Nobody had used science to show why elevators could not be built. The is a difference between not knowing how to do a thing, and being able to prove it can't be done.
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