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Senor Tron posted:There's also the appearance of Bashir in Birthright. The most difficult but authentic way to watch the shows would be the way they aired, so alternate episodes of TNG and DS9. I think whenever anyone does this they say it makes Voyager a real slog to have to deal with the quality contrast. Why was Trek always so crap at doing crossovers between concurrently airing shows?
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Cat Hatter posted:I think whenever anyone does this they say it makes Voyager a real slog to have to deal with the quality contrast. I mean, outside of Worf joining DS9 at the start of the fourth season, the only real crossovers were, what, Birthright in TNG having Bashir getting a boner over Data (and Birthright suuuuuucks), Quark launching Voyager and Zefram Cochrane launching NX-01? I mean, there's Barclay in Voyager, but that wasn't a concurrently running show with TNG.
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Cat Hatter posted:Why was Trek always so crap at doing crossovers between concurrently airing shows? Hey voyager had some great crossovers!
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Timby posted:I mean, outside of Worf joining DS9 at the start of the fourth season, the only real crossovers were, what, Birthright in TNG having Bashir getting a boner over Data (and Birthright suuuuuucks), Quark launching Voyager and Zefram Cochrane launching NX-01? I mean, there's Barclay in Voyager, but that wasn't a concurrently running show with TNG. Quark turns up in at least one other TNG episode. Riker calls him up.
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Sash! posted:Quark turns up in at least one other TNG episode. Riker calls him up. Firstborn, the one where Alexander goes back in time to kill himself because he’s so lame. Quark gives Riker info on finding the Duras sisters in exchange for bar credits or something. IIRC, Quark was also going to have a cameo at the end of Insurrection but it was cut or never filmed.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:IIRC, Quark was also going to have a cameo at the end of Insurrection but it was cut or never filmed. Oh, it was filmed all right.
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How do you even shoehorn Quark into the end of Insurrection?
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Quark heard about magical regeneration land and shows up trying to build a tourist resort and sell tickets and worf has to drag him off. Not kidding.
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Zaroff posted:Even without watching DS9 and knowing what the Defiant was, you can just presume Worf was transferred to a bad-rear end little gunship which he was commanding during the Borg incident. Little?
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Cat Hatter posted:Why was Trek always so crap at doing crossovers between concurrently airing shows? Logistics. Even the Bashir crossover was a last minute rewrite that made no sense - it was supposed to be Dax, but Terry Farrell was filming DS9 so they did a quick CTRL-F and you get the Doctor randomly fiddling with gadgets. Most crossovers back then were basically just meaningless single character cameos because pre-Internet, you also couldn't assume most or even some of the audience were familiar with the other show. Working that stuff out is part of the fun of connected universes, but take away the ability to work it out and you just end up with an episode that weirdly fawns over what appears to be some random single episode side character. If it was today, you'd have a whole scene of Picard trying to make a piece offering to Sisko after their disastrous first encounter and Sisko learning forgiveness or something, but that was too much character development to happen on a different show no-one watched. Trek doesn't get enough credit for the shared universe - Buffy/Angel tends to get all the kudos, but in some ways, Trek really was the proto-MCU. And, while the nature of the MCU means it's taking longer, it's starting to buckle under the weight of its own canon just like Trek did.
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Really, the closest thing to an organized cross-promotion in the TNG era was Unification airing a few weeks before Star Trek VI and mentioning Spock's role in negotiating peace with the Klingons.
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Pastamania posted:Trek doesn't get enough credit for the shared universe - Buffy/Angel tends to get all the kudos, but in some ways, Trek really was the proto-MCU. And, while the nature of the MCU means it's taking longer, it's starting to buckle under the weight of its own canon just like Trek did. That's exactly my approach to canon. You want to reboot things? Go right ahead and just make clear it's a reboot/reimagining/whatever. The problems with the JJverse had nothing at all to do with it ditching canon for the most part. If you say it's in the same continuity then you should be embracing that.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I'm about to move into TOS Season 3 also which I have mostly never watched. On the plus side, after TOS S3 comes The Animated Series which is glorious in many ways. It has its lows, but on average it's probably better than S3.
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Jul 1, 2020 09:55
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The_Doctor posted:Trek fans. "her vagina" has big  energy.
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Did that... come with the other stickers?? E: Capital V Vagina
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womb with a view posted:Did that... come with the other stickers?? VIOLIN!
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V’ga
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MikeJF posted:Quark heard about magical regeneration land and shows up trying to build a tourist resort and sell tickets and worf has to drag him off. Which is a far more sensible plan than what the Federation were going to do so I see why they cut it.
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MikeJF posted:Quark heard about magical regeneration land and shows up trying to build a tourist resort and sell tickets and worf has to drag him off. 
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womb with a view posted:Did that... come with the other stickers?? "V'giny"? Doesn't ring a bell
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The_Doctor posted:Trek fans. For a Trek fan the disclaimer really isn't necessary.
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womb with a view posted:Did that... come with the other stickers?? Yes; the VIOLIN one, strangely enough
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Zaroff posted:Honestly I think the scene in question makes sense without watching anything else: It always bugged me that they just said "EMH" instead of "Emergency medical hologram," because who the hell who hasn't seen Voyager knows what an "EMH" is?
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Jul 1, 2020 18:06
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Apparently Lower Decks is dropping 6 August.
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Zurui posted:Apparently Lower Decks is dropping 6 August. They're gonna drop a Lower Decker on us alright
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If they end up not having an episode about figuring out how to get down to the deflector then I'm burning it all down
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It’s just the Oberth all over again!
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As a person who is enough of a dweeb to be posting here not quite enough of a dweeb to understand the Trek timeline, does that ship design give us clues as to when exactly this takes place compared to other shows?
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It looks like a weird Galaxy kitbash. Memory Alpha says it's 2380s, which means immediate post-Voyager, 20 years before Picard.
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isn't there like two rules for starfleet ship design , and one is just dont block the path between the nacelles? Yet this somehow feels like it went out of its way to do so.
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Grand Fromage posted:It looks like a weird Galaxy kitbash. Memory Alpha says it's 2380s, which means immediate post-Voyager, 20 years before Picard. I predict some slapstick comedy where they end up blowing up Romulus
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Grand Fromage posted:It looks like a weird Galaxy kitbash. Memory Alpha says it's 2380s, which means immediate post-Voyager, 20 years before Picard. Yeah, one thing I do appreciate about it is that I immediately recognised the design cues and language from the Galaxy family.
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It is definitely a ship design of its era, which at this point is refreshing. It's supposed to be a dumb ship of losers so it being an overgrown Oberth kinda fits the vibe. Makes me wonder if the creators actually like... thought about what they were doing. Probably not.
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The weird thing for me about Lower Decks is that they’re insisting it’s canon.
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So did anyone like... actively want an animated comedy Star Trek? Like, who asked for this?
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Drone posted:So did anyone like... actively want an animated comedy Star Trek? I’m quite happy for it to exist. McMahan’s Solar Opposites was good.
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Drone posted:Like, who asked for this? CBS executives who saw Rick & Morty numbers.
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It's by the TNG Season 8 Twitter guy so I hope it's decent In other news, I made the mistake of watching TOS: Assignment: Earth last night. I get that this is an aborted pilot for another show retooled to work with TOS but wow, it's bad. Just filled to the brim with Apollo program stock footage to the point where it seemed like every time Scotty showed up on screen it was just to stand next to a screen showing classic NASA footage. Gary Seven is a strange character with minimal backstory that feels like a ripoff of both Doctor Who and James Bond at the same time.
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