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TOS does feel a bit rougher than even some of the other stuff on TV around the same time. Bewitched, for example, doesn't seem as dated from a production standpoint. The stories, yes. But some of the stuff in that show is like movie grade special effects and makes TOS look like two guys in someone's basement.
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TOS created the formula of professionals in the future encountering weird rear end poo poo and opening with hailing frequencies instead of phaser fire, TNG just perfected it TOS has lots of cringey moments but it makes it up with really good characters and plots, and I love it when they reference this period as having an old school raygun aesthetic i wish they did it more
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Jan 16, 2022 03:07
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The oldschool Twilight Zone/raygun thing coupled with its minimalist aesthetic makes it such a unique show. You could say 50 minutes is too long, and I'd say TAS' 25 minutes are just a bit too short to let it breathe and we can meet in the middle. I lean toward the former, but growing up on it helps.
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Jan 16, 2022 03:26
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TAS is an underrated show, but its episodes feel abbreviated, like they were afraid to follow the plot too deeply. Some TOS episodes are worse for ridiculous filler (The Mark of Gideon is an example) than others.
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Jan 16, 2022 03:31
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Winifred Madgers posted:The oldschool Twilight Zone/raygun thing coupled with its minimalist aesthetic makes it such a unique show. You could say 50 minutes is too long, and I'd say TAS' 25 minutes are just a bit too short to let it breathe and we can meet in the middle. I lean toward the former, but growing up on it helps. There’s something so timeless about that aesthetic and I wish there was more Forbidden Planet-esque poo poo being made.
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Jan 16, 2022 03:33
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HD DAD posted:There’s something so timeless about that aesthetic and I wish there was more Forbidden Planet-esque poo poo being made. Worf could loving annihilate Chewbacca.
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Jan 16, 2022 05:10
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Tiberius Christ posted:TOS created the formula of professionals in the future encountering weird rear end poo poo and opening with hailing frequencies instead of phaser fire, TNG just perfected it  Every good Trek show acknowledging that yes that is what the original Constitution bridge looked like is cool and good. Prodigy has yet to do so, but given we got actual Uhura and Spcok I am confident that we will get the actual bridge. 
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Jan 16, 2022 05:45
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I doubt we'll see the original bridge, there'll almost certainly be a production-wide mandate to use the new looks for any full-blown flashbacks or the like.
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Jan 16, 2022 08:31
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:TAS is an underrated show, but its episodes feel abbreviated, like they were afraid to follow the plot too deeply. Some TOS episodes are worse for ridiculous filler (The Mark of Gideon is an example) than others. Beyond the Farthest Star is an incredible episode of Trek, animated or otherwise.
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Jan 16, 2022 08:56
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That DICK! posted:Worf could loving annihilate Chewbacca. I cannot defeat this wookie, I can only kill him.
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Jan 16, 2022 08:57
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MikeJF posted:I doubt we'll see the original bridge, there'll almost certainly be a production-wide mandate to use the new looks for any full-blown flashbacks or the like. Probably so, which is a damned shame. I hate whoever redesigned the bridge, it's now generic modern scicrap. Especially when I thought In a Mirror Darkly already did a great job of modernizing it but keeping all the bright colors and mechanical elements.
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Jan 16, 2022 15:24
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Penitent posted:I cannot defeat this wookie, I can only kill him. This is such a cool line, even if it does sound like a line cut from Rocky IV.
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Jan 16, 2022 15:48
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Eimi posted:Probably so, which is a damned shame. I hate whoever redesigned the bridge, it's now generic modern scicrap. Especially when I thought In a Mirror Darkly already did a great job of modernizing it but keeping all the bright colors and mechanical elements. It’s absolutely amazing how Enterprise made the TOS aesthetic actually feel futuristic relative to the show’s setting.
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Jan 16, 2022 17:00
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Penitent posted:Beyond the Farthest Star is an incredible episode of Trek, animated or otherwise. I don't remember this one and will have to remedy the situation by watching some TAS this afternoon.
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Jan 16, 2022 18:37
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HD DAD posted:It’s absolutely amazing how Enterprise made the TOS aesthetic actually feel futuristic relative to the show’s setting. It also makes sense in a "sufficiently advanced technology" way. You'd expect everything to look more magical over time.
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Jan 16, 2022 18:53
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:TAS is an underrated show, but its episodes feel abbreviated, like they were afraid to follow the plot too deeply. Some TOS episodes are worse for ridiculous filler (The Mark of Gideon is an example) than others. A lot of those third season episodes are just dire. I honestly think The Lights of Zetar is harder to watch than Turnabout Intruder, because while at least Turnabout has Shatner dialed up to 11, Zetar is just a mind-numbingly dull slog.
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Jan 16, 2022 19:52
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:A lot of those third season episodes are just dire. I honestly think The Lights of Zetar is harder to watch than Turnabout Intruder, because while at least Turnabout has Shatner dialed up to 11, Zetar is just a mind-numbingly dull slog. I agree. That one is so weird because I'm not even sure what the 'moral' is supposed to be. It's a completely pointless 50 minutes.
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Jan 16, 2022 20:21
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As far as Star trek episodes go: Batshit > Cerebral > Action > Boring > Offensive
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Jan 16, 2022 20:46
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HD DAD posted:It’s absolutely amazing how Enterprise made the TOS aesthetic actually feel futuristic relative to the show’s setting. I think a lot of that had to do with the writing, acting, and direction really selling the idea that it was highly futuristic more than anything else
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Jan 16, 2022 20:50
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Drink-Mix Man posted:I think a lot of that had to do with the writing, acting, and direction really selling the idea that it was highly futuristic more than anything else It helped that the vulcans were the affluent neighbor kid down the street that had a Genesis, an SNES, and a Playstation while the humans still thought their NES was cool.
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Jan 16, 2022 21:19
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As recommended here, and because it was still in Netflix, I just watched couple of episodes of TAS for the first time ever, and actually liked them. The animation is what it is but overall they seem to be nice little episodes and with 23 min length they do not worn out their welcome even if the premise is a bit shaky.
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Jan 16, 2022 21:37
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Penitent posted:It helped that the vulcans were the affluent neighbor kid down the street that had a Genesis, an SNES, and a Playstation while the humans still thought their NES was cool. The rich kid with the NeoGeo who never let you play it.
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Drone posted:The rich kid with the NeoGeo who never let you play it. "Humankind is not ready for the 100 MEGA SHOCK"
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Drone posted:The rich kid with the NeoGeo who never let you play it. I mean considering the vulcan circular warp drive design that apparently never caught on, this comment makes a surprising amount of sense.
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Jan 16, 2022 23:31
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:A lot of those third season episodes are just dire. I honestly think The Lights of Zetar is harder to watch than Turnabout Intruder, because while at least Turnabout has Shatner dialed up to 11, Zetar is just a mind-numbingly dull slog.
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Jan 16, 2022 23:36
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Penitent posted:I mean considering the vulcan circular warp drive design that apparently never caught on, this comment makes a surprising amount of sense. It appeals to me that no one using the rings making it seem like it isn't as good as the twin nacelles. Like there's something about the Vulcans being too hung up on logic and such that they're bad innovators.
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Sash! posted:It appeals to me that no one using the rings making it seem like it isn't as good as the twin nacelles. Like there's something about the Vulcans being too hung up on logic and such that they're bad innovators. I bet the ring setup is more stable and efficient which is a logical tradeoff for a slight decrease in performance. Meanwhile the human dominated Starfleet is all "Engines go FAST and we can PROBABLY fix it if explode??"
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Penitent posted:It helped that the vulcans were the affluent neighbor kid down the street that had a Genesis, an SNES, and a Playstation while the humans still thought their NES was cool. My friend had SNES but even when I went over to play with him his dad would be camped out at the TV playing Desert Strike so gently caress us
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Brawnfire posted:My friend had SNES but even when I went over to play with him his dad would be camped out at the TV playing Desert Strike so gently caress us I got to experience peak childhood humiliation when my friends and I were told we could rent two SNES games for a friend's birthday party. I actively lobbied for Desert Strike and everyone else chose Mortal Kombat. Guess which game didn't get played at all that evening.
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Penitent posted:I got to experience peak childhood humiliation when my friends and I were told we could rent two SNES games for a friend's birthday party. Joke's kind of on them though, the SNES Mortal Kombat was the gimped to hell PG version 
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Angry_Ed posted:Joke's kind of on them though, the SNES Mortal Kombat was the gimped to hell PG version To bring this back around, the SNES version of the TNG tie-in game is pretty well accepted to be inferior to the Genesis version due to it's lack of polish and broken difficulty.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:I think a lot of that had to do with the writing, acting, and direction really selling the idea that it was highly futuristic more than anything else "It helps when the show is actually good" is a fine gotcha but not the one you seemed to be aiming for. At this point I wouldn't trust (non-LD) modern trek to get TOS right even if they tried
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McSpanky posted:That's because you're Actually Wrong, that's what being misaligned with reality feels like
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Penitent posted:To bring this back around, the SNES version of the TNG tie-in game is pretty well accepted to be inferior to the Genesis version due to it's lack of polish and broken difficulty. Are the console versions the same story as the PC version, or are they their own thing? I know the gameplay is very different at least, and that they both have an enemy species called the CHODAK which is just a weirdly fun word to say.
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Drone posted:Are the console versions the same story as the PC version, or are they their own thing? I know the gameplay is very different at least, and that they both have an enemy species called the CHODAK which is just a weirdly fun word to say. I owned and played through the Genesis version growing up and a friend has the SNES version. From what I remember, it appeared that the story followed mostly the same beats. The differences were that SNES version had an extremely difficult hostage rescue mission added that involved those pesky CHODAK and the Genesis version had a more complete ending. There also appeared to be significant differences in the art assets between all versions.
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Penitent posted:To bring this back around, the SNES version of the TNG tie-in game is pretty well accepted to be inferior to the Genesis version due to it's lack of polish and broken difficulty. Is that the one where you had to reroute power to systems in mid-combat and so were you almost always killed?
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Pictured: a Chodak lmao this owns, they should bring these guys back in Lower Decks 
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The Chodak showed up in a bunch of Microprose's games - they also showed up in the Star Trek Generations game, and your empire could sometimes be attacked by them in the Birth of the Federation strategy game. In a time where we've finally seen Cetacean Ops and had a live-action reference to the Kzinti, I think we deserve a return of the Chodak! EDIT: OMG, I forgot they lived in little floating pods! 
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gormless goblin posted:
It's just set in a decade with a very strong visual identity, like the 70s or 80s. I also like to think of how weird our computers and GUI design looked in the very late 90s (iMac G3, round glassy buttons everywhere, cyan).
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See also: Dax raving about the plush pleather and platinum highlights on the old 23rd century gear.
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