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Lemniscate Blue posted:Buncha lower DICKS!
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Winifred Madgers posted:The Enterprise should blow up at least once per episode. I wonder what the final count is for how many times we actually see the Enterprise-D explode onscreen. I can think of a few others, so my gut feeling is that the time loop episode accounts for about half of them.
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Nov 23, 2022 06:10
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Powered Descent posted:I wonder what the final count is for how many times we actually see the Enterprise-D explode onscreen. I can think of a few others, so my gut feeling is that the time loop episode accounts for about half of them. Time Squared (1), Timescape (1), Yesterday's Enterprise (1), Parallels (1), All Good Things (3), Generations (1), and Cause and Effect (18 times, 4 on screen).
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Nov 23, 2022 06:19
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Kesper North posted:Why do Romulans use singularity cores anyway, and why do they keep using them when nobody else does? I always felt like the singularity cores were the one wacky-rear end technology even Starfleet engineers wouldn't mess with, and everyone else in the galaxy sees that and took notes Alternatively, the Romulans take patent enforcement very loving seriously
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Nov 23, 2022 06:34
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Eh, it's a sunk cost investment. The romulans have been using singularity cores for centuries, they have no expertise using M/AM. If they're roughly equivalent you keep using what you know. Or alternatively, maybe it's better for cloaking. The Romulans seem better at cloaking very large ships than anyone else. The Romulan cloak had trouble masking the Defiant's strong power signature and they had to shut down main power to stay undetected, the first time they used it. Phy posted:Alternatively, the Romulans take patent enforcement very loving seriously They kinda did: the Romulans spent much of history locked up behind their borders, the Feds probably had no idea they used singularities until some time during TNG. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Nov 23, 2022 |
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Nov 23, 2022 06:46
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Time Squared (1), Timescape (1), Yesterday's Enterprise (1), Parallels (1), All Good Things (3), Generations (1), and Cause and Effect (18 times, 4 on screen). Well drat, looks like I forgot some. I'm going to dispute Yesterday's Enterprise, though. The ship is clearly moments away from its doom but we don't actually see it blow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNJ2quz99aE&t=240s
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Nov 23, 2022 06:51
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Powered Descent posted:Well drat, looks like I forgot some. Fair on. I must have misremembered. It's evocative enough that the viewer is certainly convinced, as you say. I also pushed a bit with Parallels, which features the destruction of an Enterprise-D, but not the Enterprise-D. So there's room to quibble there, too. I'd count it.
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Nov 23, 2022 07:23
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Yeah I’ve seen that before. But a YouTube channel has an ongoing gimmick of editing TNG outtakes into the actual episodes. I don’t think that’s possible with a compilation totaling 55 seconds.
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Nov 23, 2022 07:51
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Time Squared (1), Timescape (1), Yesterday's Enterprise (1), Parallels (1), All Good Things (3), Generations (1), and Cause and Effect (18 times, 4 on screen). How do we know the time loop happened 18 times in Cause and Effect? I just watched it this week and I don’t remember any statement of how many times it’s gone on. Is it in Data decoding the voices or something?
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Nov 23, 2022 13:11
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They're in the loop for 17.4 days, but exactly how long a loop is isn't totally clear. Somewhere between half a day and a day, probably.
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Nov 23, 2022 13:23
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MikeJF posted:They're in the loop for 17.4 days, but exactly how long a loop is isn't totally clear. Somewhere between half a day and a day, probably. That was the number that a few different sites gave, so I assumed that some nerd had done the math by comparing stardates or something.
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Nov 23, 2022 14:48
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Kibayasu posted:Yeah I’ve seen that before. But a YouTube channel has an ongoing gimmick of editing TNG outtakes into the actual episodes. I don’t think that’s possible with a compilation totaling 55 seconds. They’ve done some of the Voyager ones from that same source, so it’s not impossible!
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Nov 23, 2022 15:35
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Kesper North posted:Weird that Ni'Var doesn't seem to have taken advantage of this "Suckers. Nothing will stop our ships." *plugs in singularity drive* *horrible mechanical tentacles come whipping out* "loving poo poo!!!"
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Nov 23, 2022 15:43
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I'm far along enough in my marathon that I'm at Deep Space Nine. I've only seen two episodes (including the two-parter pilot) but I'm already vibing with it. With the Enterprise flinging all over the place it's nice to have this singular location iterated upon although I thought they cleaned up the place too quickly. If it were me, they'd still be picking up garbage into the end of the first season and by episode 2 the place is spick-and-span, but I'm the kind of viewer that likes slow change. The show has an intimate quality and it kind of reminds me of old workplace sitcoms like Cheers. I think DS9 could use a nice opening theme like that because I don't like the orchestral opener that the show's got although I did warm up to Lower Decks' theme so maybe that'll happen here too.
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Nov 23, 2022 16:06
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Astroman posted:"Ugh, we have to switch to Combat Saucer for the month?! I hate it, my quarters are like 1/3 the size, the carpet is rough, and the replicators have only 40 flavors of yoghurt!" The easiest solution is to hot swap crews
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Nov 23, 2022 16:22
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DoubleCakes posted:The show has an intimate quality and it kind of reminds me of old workplace sitcoms like Cheers. I think DS9 could use a nice opening theme like that because I don't like the orchestral opener that the show's got although I did warm up to Lower Decks' theme so maybe that'll happen here too. Hmm. TOS was 57 seconds, TNG 1:45, DS9 1:56, VOY 1:44, ENT 1:19, DIS 1:30, LD 1:09, PRO 1:30. Think how much money they've saved over the decades by having long title sequences!
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Nov 23, 2022 16:36
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DoubleCakes posted:I'm far along enough in my marathon that I'm at Deep Space Nine. I've only seen two episodes (including the two-parter pilot) but I'm already vibing with it. With the Enterprise flinging all over the place it's nice to have this singular location iterated upon although I thought they cleaned up the place too quickly. If it were me, they'd still be picking up garbage into the end of the first season and by episode 2 the place is spick-and-span, but I'm the kind of viewer that likes slow change. Oh, there's still a bunch of garbage left in that old station, Bajoran worker.
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Nov 23, 2022 16:47
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The virgin season 1 station vs the chad season 4 station
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Nov 23, 2022 16:48
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Attention Bajoran posters
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Nov 23, 2022 16:51
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DoubleCakes posted:I'm far along enough in my marathon that I'm at Deep Space Nine. I've only seen two episodes (including the two-parter pilot) but I'm already vibing with it. With the Enterprise flinging all over the place it's nice to have this singular location iterated upon although I thought they cleaned up the place too quickly. If it were me, they'd still be picking up garbage into the end of the first season and by episode 2 the place is spick-and-span, but I'm the kind of viewer that likes slow change. Early DS9 still has a little bit too much of the syndication mindset to have that sort of slow background development, unfortunately. But over time they do start working in little changes here and there, and by the end it really does feel like the station has come on a journey (even though technically it pretty much stays in one place) The DS9 theme is kind of melancholy but I like it. It fits better with the later parts of the show when poo poo is more serious—although at that point they also modify the theme (for the worse imo)
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Nov 23, 2022 16:56
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It's probably my least favorite of all the openings tbh. It's not bad it does just seem slow. There's only so much you can do with it.
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Nov 23, 2022 16:58
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If they had a modern DS9 do the little star trek logo that all the new shoes get to do, would it be a runabout that does it until later on? Lol
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Nov 23, 2022 16:59
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DoubleCakes posted:The show has an intimate quality and it kind of reminds me of old workplace sitcoms like Cheers. I think DS9 could use a nice opening theme like that because I don't like the orchestral opener that the show's got although I did warm up to Lower Decks' theme so maybe that'll happen here too. There's a whole little youtube genre of making Star Trek intros with old sitcom theme songs. This one's my favorite, Deep Space Nine done up Friends-style. (Warning: contains a few extremely minor spoilers since the super-quick cuts do come from all 7 seasons.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59_Wzssx4iA The one giving Picard the same treatment accidentally makes it look like a much more enjoyable show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vyGR4641VQ And occasionally even a low effort zero-edits song replacement can work astonishingly well. Here's the Enterprise opening dubbed with the theme song from Perfect Strangers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P4IlgtwHmA
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Nov 23, 2022 17:10
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On that note, I have memories of watching TNG when I was really young at the same time I was watching the Police Academy movies so sometimes when I think of the TNG intro the Jerry Goldsmith theme is replaced with the Police Academy which fits pretty well because the it coming from a series of lowbrow 80s comedies, has a dignity to it.
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Nov 23, 2022 18:14
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DoubleCakes posted:The show has an intimate quality and it kind of reminds me of old workplace sitcoms like Cheers. I'm not sure how far into the season they mention his name, but the bald alien dude who's always drinking at Quarks is a direct reference to Cheers
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Nov 23, 2022 18:38
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They do a great job with sound design on DS9 (Really, 90s Trek in general), but just the ambient background stuff is so good. I love the dabo wheel noise. The lighting on DS9 is also dramatically different from other shows of the era. There's little shadows everywhere. It's a delight.
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Nov 23, 2022 18:45
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That P•I•C•A•R•D edit is great, but the best Trek intro redub will always be this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqGVyPO647I
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Nov 23, 2022 19:39
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I'm one of the biggest DS9 apologists around, but yeah, I don't have much to say about the theme. It is what it is, could certainly be better. One definite positive, though, is that I believe it's the only Trek theme to actually be done by a regular composer for the show, so I feel like they were able to incorporate the theme into the score a little more frequently than the other shows did.
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Nov 23, 2022 19:47
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Phy posted:I'm not sure how far into the season they mention his name, but the bald alien dude who's always drinking at Quarks is a direct reference to Cheers Who, Morn?
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Nov 23, 2022 19:57
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The DS9 theme is great, the visuals are boring. It’s come up before but with a little forward thinking (and more money) showing more than just the station could have made the intro a really dynamic part of the show. Interior shots of the promenade and such probably come off as too hokey but trading ships buzzing around (changing them out for starships as the war starts), shots of Bajor and Cardassia and the badlands, and traveling through the wormhole could have all added to the rising nature of the DS9 theme.
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Nov 23, 2022 20:01
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Sir Lemming posted:I'm one of the biggest DS9 apologists around, but yeah, I don't have much to say about the theme. It is what it is, could certainly be better. DS9's in-show music definitely had its own style quite distinct from later TNG/Voyager while still being Trekish.
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Nov 23, 2022 20:03
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I liked the time they had the theme in an episode with a Bajoran composer playing it in the bar and Quark was all, "But this music sucks?!?"
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Nov 23, 2022 20:04
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And use this variant of the theme during the arc where the Dominion is occupying the station https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZAGYBBwgnY 
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Nov 23, 2022 20:09
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BonHair posted:Who, Morn? Lots of people. There's a whole episode about it!
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Powered Descent posted:And use this variant of the theme during the arc where the Dominion is occupying the station Oh god, that just sounds repulsive. Why would you post that? 
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Nov 23, 2022 20:20
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BonHair posted:Who, Morn? No, Calvin Filk
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Nov 23, 2022 20:33
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nine-gear crow posted:Oh god, that just sounds repulsive. Why would you post that? I mean, it'd sound better with an orchestra actually playing it in a minor key instead of just doing a lovely machine conversion, but it's enough to get the idea.
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Nov 23, 2022 21:07
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I'm kinda annoyed that there doesn't seem to be anyone doing full-on Auralnauts stuff with Star Trek
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Nov 23, 2022 21:32
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Delsaber posted:I'm kinda annoyed that there doesn't seem to be anyone doing full-on Auralnauts stuff with Star Trek Someone giving Star Trek: Picard the Larry Kenobi treatment would be loving amazing.
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nine-gear crow posted:Someone giving Star Trek: Picard the Larry Kenobi treatment would be loving amazing. It would certainly be be coherent
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