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MikeJF posted:Bit of Beyond nerdery: Having read that interview with Justin Lin I understand why they made the changes they did and appreciated the ideas behind them but there is seemingly no way for this design to not look like an ugly composite of thoughts from superior versions of the ship is there hahaha It looks like a child's drawing of the Enterprise given form Anyway, good OP but I don't think the new show has had it's place in an established continuity confirmed yet and as always #RikersBeard still exists on synIRC.net
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Powered Descent posted:The old Trek novels from the 80s, on the other hand, were... well, okay, they were also pretty bad overall. But they were bad in tremendously different ways from book to book, and there was even the occasional good one in the mix. I remember really liking Dreadnought! and Battlestations!. I distinctly remember Dreadnought! because of the cool drawing of the TOS assault shuttlecraft in the back and the fact the whole thing was centred around an awful mary sue.
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This one time years ago I saw him on Conan promoting some new Tek War book he wrote and as soon as he said "Tek War" the audience laughed at him and he was sort of pissy for the rest of the interview
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Instant Sunrise posted:I have a copy of the Phase II pilot script "In Thy Image" that eventually got adapted into TMP. It's description of Earth is 1000% Roddenberry. That's awesome. Star Trek should have more of that and less "we have to fight the space terrorists to protect Our Way of Life"
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Jul 6, 2016 18:18
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Brick Card posted:I heard it's going to take place in the prime timeline, somewhere between Final Frontier and TNG season 1. The rumour was that it was post TUC/pre TNG but that was debunked recently.
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When I think of all the other garbage TV shows that were Star Trek's contemporaries than yeah, I think it's still pretty loving progressive until Voyager when they seemed to stop caring about such things Future instalments should of course, strive to be better (as they should in all ways) but holy gently caress what a lot of whining to say that these shows are still products of their loving time
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Jul 9, 2016 17:13
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Canon is great when used to effectively tell interesting stories, add to the feel of a real living universe and for the occasional bit of fan service for an anniversary episode or something Like anything else, it's a depressing waste of a good thing when abused to market a bunch of "shared universe" horseshit or otherwise done poorly
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Jul 9, 2016 22:26
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I hope the new show takes itself seriously. Not like, grimdark or anything like that but honestly I couldn't stand how jokey Stargate became, for example. Like if they pointed out the absurdity of the flaws in their lovely writing with enough jokes then it's suddenly ok
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Jul 10, 2016 21:24
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DS9's first two seasons are probably the strongest first seasons of any Trek series since TOS, and certainly more entertaining as a whole than the vast majority of Voyager
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Jul 11, 2016 00:54
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The part where they phone up Old Spock to ask him how The Wrath of Khan ended was the exact moment I totally checked out of the movie and wrote off the new film franchise. In principal I think there's nothing wrong with spinning off a new universe from the old one, but that's some cynical loving fanwank because doing that means on some level they knew full well their own poo poo wasn't nearly as compelling as the old poo poo. ST09 is just proof that if you make something incredibly boring for long enough, when you bring it back suddenly all shiny and loud it'll make the lethargic addicts that comprise your fanbase jump to attention if it goes by fast enough to convince everybody else you've made something worth watching
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Jul 12, 2016 01:54
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bull3964 posted:I'm still trying to figure out how something as far out as the moon managed to fall into earth's atmosphere in a few minutes. That means it entered earth's atmosphere at around 3 million miles an hour. There is no real pacing or sense of scale in these movies, regardless of any scientific inaccuracy. It's just a bunch of CGI video game cut scenes interspersed with a bit of fanwanky dialogue in between. The problem is so many other movies are like this these days that even in that one lovely regard, NuTrek can't stand out
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Jul 12, 2016 03:33
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Generations was a movie that would have benefited from a lot more time to tighten up the script and maybe it would have helped not to blow all that money building the stellar cartography set and those location shoots
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Rhyno posted:Someone took "dress uniform" a little too seriously. 
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Jul 13, 2016 03:53
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I would murder the gently caress out of my clone The world's not big enough for two of me
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Kill all clones Begun these clone wars have
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Baronjutter posted:Hi TVIV star trek thread, I thought there was only the one trek thread in GBS. Am I allowed to post in both? I like startrek enough to post in 2 threads about it. The end goal is the occupy all posts in space in every Trek thread at once; goon factor 10
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Jul 15, 2016 03:56
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Wee Bairns posted:Looks like folks around the world will be able to watch the new Trek series on Netflix, while Canada will watch it on Bell's Space network. So it appears they really want to get it out to everyone. Well, I guess they realized they needed something to break up the endless reruns of Castle
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Jul 18, 2016 20:55
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Cojawfee posted:I haven't read them but it sounds like there's lots of Enterprise related content? if so, that's cool. Enterprise was a cool show that people hate and I hope I can enjoy it while everyone else freaks out that Enterprise is the only canon show in the Kelvinverse. I figure the changes to this timeline rippled out in both directions like waves in a pond so that in the Kelvinverse Enterprise was actually an interesting show instead of a frustratingly lame waste of space
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Jul 19, 2016 18:59
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I've got that colour edition of the Star Trek encyclopedia that has info up to the last season of DS9 and nothing afterward, so it's like a perfect snapshot of the whole thing before it started sucking more often than not.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:I don't if it's maybe because people are just used to the idea of these reboots now, but this is the most positive buzz I've heard from a Star Trek movie from the actual fanbase in a long time. Everyone is usually high on the newness of the thing for a week or two until people calm down and start to think about it, I can remember people telling me the last one was awesome right out of the gate too Hype is illogical
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Is there anybody that didn't like the previous two movies or most other modern blockbusters that was impressed by the latest one?
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Pakled posted:Apparently there was a teaser trailer, at least. Looks like it's already on youtube. Yeah that looks like something a fan would have whipped up and posted to scifimeshes.com circa 2003. Completely underwhelming and fugly looking at that.
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Jul 23, 2016 23:21
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Yeah I mean it's nice to go back to old concept art for inspiration but sometimes that poo poo was rejected for a reason, yo
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Jul 23, 2016 23:23
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I'm hoping they've taken it down due to an overwhelmingly negative response
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Jul 24, 2016 00:57
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The Oberth is an adorable little ship that reminds me of boats. It's a cute little spaceboat. oh hi there I'm an Oberth class ship here to scan some anomalies, what's this cube shaped- OH GOD OH GHODODA WHAT ITS EATING MEEEE AOGHghg
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Jul 24, 2016 02:59
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Gammatron 64 posted:It's kinda hilarious and hosed that I watched Beyond and saw how amazing and cool Yorktown station looked, then saw the Discovery footage and saw the complete polar opposite. Actually you can go to warp without the defector but if you run into debris you'll gently caress up your hull right quickly, I remember this from one of the few good episodes of Voyager
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Jul 24, 2016 18:53
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The last time I remember being really impressed by a space station like Yorktown was actually the Spacedock from Star Trek 3
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Pretty good write-up of some post-panel interviews over at Trekmovie. In particular; Yeah, this is less than encouraging, even the music sounded tacky as hell and I'm sure there are geeks floating around youtube that could have slapped something more impressive together in loving blender over three weeks. I was really optimistic given who was brought on to work on these show but now my gut feeling is that it'll look and sound lame. Hopefully I'm wrong.
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Rhyno posted:There were meetings but Lucasfilm flexed their muscles to keep Trek out of the LEGO empire. I hope you're joking because this is actually pretty much what happened to kill off the classic Lego Space subthemes and if this is true also I've never trusted Star Wars and I never will I'll never forgive them for the death of my toys
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More like they were waiting to see if the reaction to Beyond was positive before announcing plans for a sequel
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Otisburg posted:I really expected more people to object to the exquisite superstructure habtat porn as "too advanced" or "not matching the aesthetic" and am pleasantly suprised that's not the case. Like the drydock from TMP or Spacedock from STIII, Yorktown was precisely the kind of visual spectacle I want from a Star Trek movie, the type of thing they'd have given us in the series if they'd had the budget or the effects technology to pull it off.
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Why cookie Rocket posted:I'm a grumpy purist and it's probably the best Trek movie since 6. Which is really more about how much they have sucked since 6 than it is about Beyond being amazing or something. But hey, I'll take it. I am also a grump elitist scumbag about my sci fi and I'd say it's the best one since First Contact since I find it and Generations relatively inoffensive, although First Contact holds up less as I get older. You're right though, that's not really high praise when you stop to think about it Also that's a shame about Mr. Garabaldi, he wasn't even that old. I always enjoy seeing italian people show up in space shows, it's nice to feel represented e: I have made it a point over the years never to google his political views though, same with Adam Baldwin
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Otisburg posted:You can euthanize an animal that's clearly suffering miserably, and still go on to love a new pet. I thought Moonves was the one who absolutely hated Star Trek?
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I like how they tried to death star trench run the big bad dominion ship but it turns out star wars doesn't work and they all die horribly
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FlamingLiberal posted:STB dropped 60% this weekend, which isn't great. That's the worst drop of the three JJTrek films. Figures. First time since 1996 they pump out a decent Trek flick and this happens.
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Timby posted:There's a panel scheduled for the show at the Television Critics Association tour next Wednesday, and I have to presume that by that point they'll make some more definitive announcements. I wouldn't go so far as to speculate on people dropping out of the project already, but it's pretty jarring how the lack of info, the time crunch and that lovely trailer derailed what hype there was for it.
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Aug 2, 2016 22:32
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IIRC he also scored the two good Starfleet Command PC games back in the day
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Timby posted:It has very, very few redeeming qualities. The cinematography is decent (probably the best of the TNG films after Generations, really), Digital Domain really did a phenomenal job with the visual effects ... and ... uh, yeah, I got nothin'. loving Spiner. I still say that Nemesis's phaser/torpedo FX looked and sounded completely anaemic, even compared to the TV shows. Space battles have to have more going on than "and now we can render even more laser beams!"
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cenotaph posted:Picard's character in First Contact is fine. The source of his worst experience comes right back and starts kicking his rear end. You never really get over that kind of trauma and it's human to react the way he did. First Contact catches a lot of poo poo for things that Insurrection and Nemesis did, namely to try to continue that formula over and over again and each time the story was too weak to carry it. In the last film, Picard had lost his previous long-time command and gotten his rear end kicked so hard in a fight he had to go back and get Shatner to help him. Now here come the Borg again ready to rape and pillage and so yeah, I can easily buy action hero Picard in that context But by the time you get to Nemesis they've got him freezing up at the end after resolving to beam over on his own(?!) just because the story says Data has to sacrifice himself because that's what made Wrath of Khan good, right guys? Just that one bit?
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Mortanis posted:Also, I've started a full rewatch of all trek and am almost done with S1 of ENT for the first time since it originally aired. I don't get the hate. It's aggressively bland and isn't trying new things at ALL After 7 years of Voyager, this was reason enough. Time and distance has dulled these emotions, and when I eventually get around to trying to rewatch ENT again I'm sure I'll be less irritated by the consistent letdown of each episode too
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