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Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY
Isn't the fact that STO now has the "Kelvin Timeline/JJPrise" stuff in game now hint that CBS and Paramount have an agreement on all this now and it's no longer an issue for CBS to use it.

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Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY
Pulaski is a TNG character that I usually forget even existed until she is mentioned somewhere.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
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Nessus posted:

How the hell would you have a pension in a post scarcity environment? I imagine if anything the Federation would just want to make sure Scotty was OK, maybe give him a checkup medically. They might prefer he not get assimilated by the Borg or something.

I could see retired Starfleet officers getting some perks of some kind, though I imagine it'd be more like 'getting to ride along on Starfleet vessels instead of taking, I don't know, the warp-Megabus to Risa'.

Scotty remarks in Star Trek Judgement Rites that he is worried about his pension.

It was a funny remark.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
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Only time I've read of warp collisions in Trek is in one of the Enterprise reboot novels where a bunch of romulans ships warp ram a planet with dilithium and make it into a wasteland.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY
Literally the ugliest ship.


And the teaser was quite odd. It looked worse than the CGI that Fan projects pump out. Not really the best introduction to the series for anyone. I'm actually a bit worried about it now.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
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It makes me think that CBS is giving them barely any money to do anything.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY
I can't get over how ugly the ship is. How do you mess up so bad.

The teaser is terrible. Bad music, terrible graphics, doesn't tell you a thing about the show but shows you a ship no one would ever want to fly or own. You can't attract an audience with stuff like this. Why did they make this?

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY
They've taken it down?

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY
I came out of Star Trek Beyond today feeling super hopeful that Star Trek was finally getting back into the swing of things and this panel has put so much doubt on it. At least we get another JJTrek movie?

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY

Drink-Mix Man posted:

Since it looks like TOS or pre-TOS I'm hoping it's just another flat-out different timeline, without any time travel stuff to try and explain. Just say you're doing you're own new version of Star Trek, own your own vision of the future, and be done with it.

https://twitter.com/adambvary/status/756981563699503104

Confirmed for Prime Universe.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY
CBS must really love Star Trek Bridge Commander to shoot the entire show in it with fraps.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY
Can they make it look like this instead, it has a similar design ethos as the current ship but it actually looks like somebody in Starfleet designed it.

http://imgur.com/a/mrkC3

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY

FlamingLiberal posted:

STB opened around $60 million, which is I think slightly above what the studio expected

It's sadly quite a bad performance in the scheme of previous Trek openings but what can you do.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY

Gammatron 64 posted:

It's kinda hilarious and hosed that I watched Beyond and saw how amazing and cool Yorktown station looked, then saw the Discovery footage and saw the complete polar opposite.

Also yeah, I did notice they tried to warp out after they broke the navigational deflector, but it didn't bother me that much because I'm not diagnosed with autism

If all we have to look forward to is triangle ship and asteroid bases then the new Trek is going to be fairly disappointing. There is nothing awe-inspiring about that and its boring. They need to follow the example of Beyond and do new crazy things.

Who knows, maybe they are. In that case, why did they show us this boring badly made teaser and not concept art for some actual fun stuff?

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY
If you don't like the episode where the crew rob Vic's casino then you have no soul.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY
I don't like the CGI or graphic design much. Really don't like that space shot they had with the sun and asteroids, doesn't feel real at all. One thing Enterprise did a good job of was that space looked like space.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY

Shibawanko posted:

Birth of the Federation was a great game but I can't get it to run on a modern PC, as I recall it has some kind of memory leak that makes the game get slower the longer you play it.

Pretty unplayable after 100 turns.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY
I'd take Enterprise Theme over this new one. Don't know what it's trying to besides shuffle nostalgia at the audience at the start and end with an awkward middle.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
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https://talkiesnetwork.com/2017/09/20/star-trek-discovery-premiere-earns-positive-reactions/

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
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Hope DSC does a Nazi planet episode where they dress up like the SS to confront the issues of our time.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
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It can't be more boring than S1 Enterprise.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY

DorianGravy posted:

I liked the holograms, but they were weird: when they glitched out, the person would rapidly change position, which makes no sense. It's not a video game, it's an image of a real person.

It's an attempt to show signal lag/drop, they're communicating over light years so I don't find this odd.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY

I'm sorry you don't like Star Trek.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY

CPColin posted:

Oh! Another irritating thing about the airing last night! CBS extended the timeslot by five minutes. Why? So they could squeeze in four more minutes of commercials before one last ad for Part Two on All Access. Terrible!

I was pissed about that. I watched all those ads and it comes back to an ad spoiling the entire 2nd part and then some credits at the bottom of the screen.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY

jeeves posted:

Seriously this Discovery pilot felt like Star Trek Beyond. It felt like nothing mattered and I am completely disinterested to watch more. Plus, I barely know any or give a poo poo about any of the characters: the annoying main one who I already dislike, the reboot of Sarak who is just as annoying (especially with his new super powers), the now-dead captain so wow thanks for spending so long introducing her, and the also equally annoying Doug Jones character. No one else even had a name, and apparently a I cared more about that rando Daft Punk guy?

She is going to be in every episode in a form of flashbacks it appears.

"It felt like nothing mattered and I am completely disinterested to watch more." - nothing mattered in the majority of Trek episodes so this is BS.

Thom12255 fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Sep 25, 2017

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
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Pakled posted:

Yeah, I think the show could be redeemed if it goes that route, but the preview at the end of episode 2 didn't give me much hope for that. Those first two episodes glorified war and preemptive strikes in a way I'd expect from like, 24, not Star Trek. It's 2017, we don't need more stories along the lines of we're under attack, it's us vs. them, their nature drives them to be violent and evil and we can expect no mercy from them, we can't afford to play nice.

Congratulations for proving you barely paid attention to anything in the episode. The character that did anything to promote a preemptive strike was condemned by literally everyone and ruined her life. It was never shown she was right to suggest it. War was shown to suck and was said by one of the main characters that it is horrible and you shouldn't want it. The main character has PTSD from war experiences and is haunted by what happened at the battle and losing her mentor. The Starfleet Admiral chastised Michael for thinking Klingons only care about battle and he wanted to try diplomacy. She was put into prison for defying Federation principles which she admits to and regrets.

This wasn't hidden or anything, you just have to watch the drat show and pay attention to what people say.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
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Al Borland Corp. posted:

We'll all of that was in the episode they didn't air so you can't really blame people for not basing their impressions on it. And the people sentencing her to prison were depicted as a faceless shadowy bad guys. And everybody knows she'll very shortly be given a command, she's the main character. She's going to end up in the right.

I'm sure she'll be redeemed by the end - she already feels guilty about everything. This has happened with Tom Paris and Ensign Ro previously. The journey to redemption is one of the plots of the show this season so I don't think you can have a proper impression of her character until all is said and done.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
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Pakled posted:

And yet Michael was vindicated in everything she said about the Klingons, she was absolutely shown to be right. The Klingons really were only interested in war and couldn't be trusted. The smug peaceloving admiral got his ship destroyed because he naively thought he could negotiate with those savages. The message I got isn't "war is good," it's "war is necessary, and we can't afford to be soft in the face of it," which is distasteful to me because it's so behind-the-times and not really relevant to what's going on in the world today. And the preview didn't give me much hope that would change in future episodes.

I don't have an issue with a show investigating how you keep peaceful, tolerant values while faced with zealots who believe those values will destroy everything they know. They might make a mess of it but we can't say that until the end, not after an 85 minute pilot.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
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Right now I think the only bad thing about the series is that it isn't on netflix for everyone with no ads.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:

BTW that lighting choice was really bizarre for the context of the scene.

Maybe. I think it showed how she felt about her life and what the state of things are. She lost her home and family and career and started a war. She is consumed by guilt, regret, anger, and sadness. The lighting reflected her mood and complimented her dialogue in the scene.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
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Shibawanko posted:

I watched 5 minutes of the new show and closed the window. I'm not going to enjoy this.

Two characters walking through a desert exchanging as-you-know's about some species I don't care about. gently caress off.

Star Trek might not be for you.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:

Wait did I miss something in the 2nd episode?

The Captain and Burnham beam over to the Klingon ship. The plan was to disable it and then capture T'Kuvma alive because then he isn't a martyr. Right? So first the beam a bomb on board that blows the spine of the ship apart. Guess they're lucky that didn't kill him accidentally. They then beam on board- phasers set to stun. They stun 3-4 Klingons without issue, then they get in to a fist-fight with T'Kuvma and the albino Klingon. Burnham fights off the albino and grabs a phaser just as T'K stabs the Captain. Burnham quickly switches the phaser to kill and fries T'K. At that point she doesn't know if the Captain is dead, and we saw 2 minutes beforehand that stun knocked out Klingons instantly. So she just opted to totally change the plan because of revenge- even though she didn't know if the captain was dead?

She's pretty flawed and sucky ain't she. Means we get character development in the show instead of everyone staying the same.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
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Why was the Enterprise-B the only ship in range in the solar system?

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
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The majority of the first episode was optimistic and idealistic. Then a conflict was introduced so that there would be contrasting themes to make a good story out of.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:

You're describing one of the reasons why I'm so disgusted by many Reddit Trek fans, and why I much prefer talking Trek with you guys: they're so determined to like Discovery, because it's the first Star Trek on TV in over a decade, that they're swallowing everything the show does - no matter how dumb it is - and actively down voting people who express anything less than adoration for the show. /r/startrek is becoming (or has become) toxic.

Discovery is giving me a newfound respect for DS9. I've resented it somewhat, because I think that its popularity sometimes comes at the expense of older series, like the original. But DS9 is Star Trek doing dark right: Sisko and his crew bend Starfleet Values in order to fight against the Dominion and the Maquis. Sometimes they go too far, but reluctantly. "In The Pale Moonlight" is a great example of that. Discovery looks like it's doing dark and gritty in an effort to be more in the vein of shows like BSG. I love BSG, but I don't want Star Trek to be BSG.

r/startrek is as toxic as TV IV about the show.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:

Should I watch discovery? I haven't seen it yet. I figured it'd just be enterprise 2.0

I've only been watching a lot of TNG and Voyager because it makes me nostalgic for the days of coming back home from school and watching pokemon and then star trek right after on the Sky

enterprise didn't really have that for me and discovery just seems generically dark+gritty

It's well worth the watch and gets better every episode. My wife and I are having weekly watch parties with friends for it. One girl is a big Trekkie who loved DS9 and loves this, my wife is more a TNG person who doesn't watch too much Star Trek and she says this is the best show yet.

I don't get the dark and gritty comments - this isn't BSG at all. Plenty of good old-fashioned Star Trek with modern serialized drama worked in. Lots of fun to watch.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
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TMP Refit is superior in every single way, get that low budget 60's trash out.

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
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Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
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S2 looks fun.

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Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
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FuturePastNow posted:

Everything I've seen about Discovery season 2 can be summarized as "fans hated this so we're changing it"

If only that had happened after Enterprise S1 instead of until S4.

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