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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:I'm really looking forward to the new series, guys. Just so long as Mads Mikkelsen is in it. Which he is. Sadly, I believe Mads has said he wouldn't be interested in doing television again since nothing could touch his experience on Hannibal.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2016 23:18 |
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 08:41 |
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Oof. Mulgrew would've LOVED that...
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2016 07:31 |
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Re-watching "Chain of Command" from TNG from the first time in a very long time... In retrospect and distance, is it me or are Jellico's requests not unreasonable? Sure he has douchey moments, but drat Riker and Geordi come off as whiney and very un-Starfleet.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2016 12:12 |
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HORATIO HORNBLOWER posted:Who cares about the technology? Not the writers that's for sure. The implications of it all were problematic as hell dating back to The Cage. No reboot or prequel or alternate universe can change the fact that technology in Trek is always exactly as magical as the plot (and the production constraints) requires it to be, no more and no less. The original continuity deserves to be continued because DS9 left it in such a fascinating place. The Romulans and the Federation allied with each other for the first time in their centuries-long history. What happens with that? Does the detente with the Dominion hold? Does Bajor join the Federation? What does the Klingon empire look like under Martok's rule? Will the Cardassians rebuild? What does post-occupation Betazed look like? Will those that lived through the war spend the rest of their lives looking for changelings behind every tree? How does Ferengi society adapt? There are zillions of interesting stories to tell in this universe and there's no inherit reason to let the technobabble get in the way of doing it. There just isn't the will. I agree. I'd love this very much. However, there is not only a forgetfulness amongst fans (not that it couldn't be explained very easy to the newcomer) - but again, original Trek is in the minds of the masses.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2016 12:26 |
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Toplowtech posted:He insisted that Deanna Troi wear a standard uniform (A STANDARD UNIFORM!) and that his presence be announced whenever he entered. Clearly the devil by 80s standard. But yeah, they end up rebelling over his four shifts rotation. And as we all know, the TNG uniform on Troi made her look even hotter. (And I'm very gay for the record) But for most everything else, it's basically just DO. YOUR. loving. JOB. Stop pretending like this is a goddamn cruise ship... Moreover, maybe leave the non-essential families off at the last Federation planet... And maybe that's one of TNG's biggest failings. The Federation flagship shouldn't have children on board. That's patently ridiculous.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2016 12:33 |
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I can get behind that.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2016 12:42 |
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WickedHate posted:Starfleet, or at least TNG's Starfleet, has always been mildly military. Gene was adamant that they were explorers first and there wasn't any enlisted because class division or something like that. Jellico is basically a real navy guy harshing the buzz of the laid back Enterprise cruise, who's most militant trait is that most of them wear uniforms. Well we all know Gene was basically a loon. Wonderful for the original idea, but the greatest stuff was never because of him. But considering how many times the Enterprise was overpowered or in danger even in the Gene years... Sorry, no, families should never have been included
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2016 12:46 |
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Yeah - at the very least if you were an adult and knew what you were signing up for, absolutely.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2016 12:50 |
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HORATIO HORNBLOWER posted:Who cares about the technology? Not the writers that's for sure. The implications of it all were problematic as hell dating back to The Cage. No reboot or prequel or alternate universe can change the fact that technology in Trek is always exactly as magical as the plot (and the production constraints) requires it to be, no more and no less. The original continuity deserves to be continued because DS9 left it in such a fascinating place. The Romulans and the Federation allied with each other for the first time in their centuries-long history. What happens with that? Does the detente with the Dominion hold? Does Bajor join the Federation? What does the Klingon empire look like under Martok's rule? Will the Cardassians rebuild? What does post-occupation Betazed look like? Will those that lived through the war spend the rest of their lives looking for changelings behind every tree? How does Ferengi society adapt? There are zillions of interesting stories to tell in this universe and there's no inherit reason to let the technobabble get in the way of doing it. There just isn't the will. But here's the thing - Romulus is destroyed in the 24th century Prime timeline (post DS9) via supernova due to Spock not being quick enough. So now in the Prime timeline you've got a scarce people ala the Vulcans in the Kelvin timeline. So that makes things interesting as well. Which is fun for all sorts of different reasons. So you've got a decimated people in the Cardassians and Romulans. Do the Klingons turn again? Do the others turn to small cell terrorism? Is the Dominion still a threat and everyone bands together under one banner? I do like this concept. CaveGrinch fucked around with this message at 09:30 on Aug 18, 2016 |
# ¿ Aug 18, 2016 09:24 |
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DS9 is my favorite series. Like others it has its low points and hi points. It tends to have more high points. The one thing that has always bugged me though was the Founders literally turning Odo into a Solid. Did they just suppress his shape shifting power or did they make him a full on human-type? Was it ever explained?
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2016 05:39 |
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GlenMR posted:Well, he was supposed to have a thing with Janice Rand, then she lost her job. It's been available on Kindle all month. I read it weeks ago.
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# ¿ Sep 27, 2016 06:32 |
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Fifty Year Mission is quite good and is nearly all direct quotes from cast and crew both living and dead.
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2016 00:21 |
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Variety reporting Bryan Fuller is out as show runner of Discovery. There goes any hope I had... http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/bryan-fuller-showrunner-star-trek-discovery-cbs-1201901398/
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 23:53 |
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It's been years but I just watched TNG's "Code of Honor." Holy gently caress. Just wipe that poo poo from the record.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2016 12:46 |
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That whole episode made no sense. But apparently the captain of a ship can make any random 16 year old an acting ensign so it was doubly weird.
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2017 05:45 |
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How does the super genius kid who has literally been driving around the Federation flagship NOT get in?
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2017 21:22 |
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Always leave it to Marina to cut the bullshit.
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2017 01:02 |
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skooma512 posted:Don't you need a SAG card to have speaking roles? Yes, but she would've gotten her SAG card from doing this. There are multiple ways to join SAG or Equity or AFTRA. They still audition non-union.
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2017 08:24 |
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Knowing just how emotional Vulcans truly are, if Sarek was a scientist before becoming a diplomat - his resentment towards Spock becomes much more fascinating.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2017 20:54 |
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Pretty sure they re-thought it when they realized they were wasting the best actor on the show sitting in a chair all episode.
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# ¿ Mar 24, 2017 20:37 |
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Zurui posted:Bouncing off this: if I want to introduce someone to Star Trek I'm more likely to show them Enterprise than anything else. Enterprise looks closer to modern television and the beats and tone are closer to what you'd expect from a TV show today. No one is wearing silly space booties and there are no long establishing shots with weird synthesizer music. Yep. They'll be sold by "Faith of the Heart."
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2017 20:56 |
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Roddenberry was much like George Lucas. Great original idea... now step aside and let more talented writers handle things.
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# ¿ May 1, 2017 19:54 |
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Railing Kill posted:I feel like I end up saying this every time George Lucas comes up: he can be both technically gifted and a god-awful writer/director. I don't think it's "revisionist history" to call his writing and directing dog poo poo, because it always was, even looking within the original trilogy. But I also don't think that precludes praising his technical achievements in visual effects. I didn't do that back there because I wasn't talking about visual effects, and no one else was either until it got dredged up in defense of Ol' Jorge. I was talking about writing, and Lucas absolutely sucks at that. Every Star Wars nerd has to get all up in arms and haul out all these technical merits every time someone has the nerve to question 40 years of nerd orthodoxy. If we accept that Gene fostered a cult of personality around himself, I'd like to know what we should call whatever all this poo poo is around George Lucas. Nerd Stockholm Syndrome? Yes to all of this. Which is exactly what I was saying at the beginning too until BUT ILM! happened.
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# ¿ May 3, 2017 07:15 |
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I'm awfully sad about Fuller getting kicked from Discovery... but it is probably gonna be a disaster in spite of itself. Probably better for him to concentrate on future seasons of American Gods and god willing a Hannibal mini series or Season 4.
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# ¿ May 4, 2017 08:59 |
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After Trek, I think it can be reasoned that three of the five Captains have had both acclaimed and lucrative careers after the fact (Shatner, Stewart and Mulgrew.) Terry Farrell had a good long run on Becker. And then you have a handful of others that do the occasional tv episodes or one off movie shots... while others, Frakes and Dawson specifically have gone into directing. It's really like anything else - some will do stuff and others won't. Some are just happy to get collecting that sweet Con money.
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# ¿ May 8, 2017 23:53 |
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And seriously... you're gonna name the alien female Yareena when Yar is also central to the plot? Just sloppy all the way around.
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# ¿ May 11, 2017 03:09 |
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Reading Michael Piller's unpublished manuscript about the making of Insurrection. My god. So many bad ideas.
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# ¿ May 16, 2017 09:46 |
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Crusher had the sex ghost. See thread title.
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# ¿ May 16, 2017 11:37 |
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NOW THAT'S A STAR TREK!
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# ¿ May 17, 2017 05:30 |
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It's a life or death starship battle and those are the chairs the Conn and Ops crew are in? Those are literally built to fall asleep in. Another bullshit TNG thing from early on. Luckily they did fix it.
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# ¿ May 17, 2017 08:49 |
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Sure made the sets look nicer than they were.
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2017 00:21 |
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Speaking of weird movie stuff... can someone confirm or deny this? I thought for sure in the series after the emotion chip Lore installed in Data was removed (I feel like that was in "Descent") that it was rendered unusable. Then in Generations he just installs it like it's no big deal. Am I misremembering this?
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# ¿ Jun 24, 2017 14:15 |
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Gonz posted:Chakotay not missing any replicator rations these days. Lord he's practically handsome in comparison to some of the others of the era... And that's not even getting into Jennifer Lien and her crazy mental illness.
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2017 04:12 |
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FuturePastNow posted:There's a scene in Encounter at Farpoint where Beverly is shopping for cloth and she tells the merchant to bill it to the ship. I get it that latinum can't be replicated. It's why it's money. Why the gently caress would you shop for cloth? Oh yeah. TNG. Season one.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 10:04 |
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I was about to say... once she has her whole bolt of cloth, exactly what is she gonna do with it? Are we to believe Bev is going back to her quarters to sew something?!
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 10:09 |
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Gates danced the entire time (I believe she choreographed it as well) - but Spiner gets doubled at some point and it's pretty obvious as I recall.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2017 23:49 |
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Just watched the sequence again and yeah the Data double is in the overhead shot as well as one kinda 3/4 shot that was waaaay too close to hide the doubling
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2017 23:53 |
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I don't think either Greatest Generation or Next Conversation (I prefer the latter honestly) should get to skip *any* episode. The best thing is Next Conversation HAVING to slog through the first two seasons... bad episodes lead to much funnier podcasts.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2017 23:36 |
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Paradoxish posted:This is kind of a weird complaint since Greatest Gen blew away all their vetoes, didn't skip anything, and already announced that they aren't doing vetoes for DS9 since neither of them have seen every episode. Oh it's not a complaint - it's more of a comment that they shouldn't even consider it. I enjoy both by the way, just saying I preferred the style of Next Conversation more.
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2017 02:42 |
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 08:41 |
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CaveGrinch posted:Oh it's not a complaint - it's more of a comment that they shouldn't even consider it. I enjoy both by the way, just saying I preferred the style of Next Conversation more. Let me rephrase. If you're considering doing a TNG comedy style recap podcast... by all means skip that Riker clip show. I mean, god... tv used to have honest to God clip shows
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