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GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice
Raise awareness in Nevada, raise money in California

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CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

Win California at any cost

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Hitlers Gay Secret posted:

Raise awareness in Nevada, raise money in California

I think we are slowly losing hold of California so it may be less effective than Texas now. OP?

Also with your funding for NASA campaign you have created an America I can be proud in.

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
---------
Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

Herr Tog posted:

I think we are slowly losing hold of California so it may be less effective than Texas now. OP?

Money raised doesn't care about the predicted voting in the state, only awareness, which is still at 100% for us. We're still good with California until our returns start hitting 200K.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

B. I want to see you rip this campaign back from the grave.


And maybe a president forever run next... ;)

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
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Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

Grapplejack posted:

B. I want to see you rip this campaign back from the grave.


And maybe a president forever run next... ;)

A bit late, as we've already moved on to continuing to run this poo poo into the ground, but I've been planning to do my own run from week 13 on as a post-mortem after we inevitably crash this campaign into the ground.

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH

TheMcD posted:

A bit late, as we've already moved on to continuing to run this poo poo into the ground, but I've been planning to do my own run from week 13 on as a post-mortem after we inevitably crash this campaign into the ground. produce a realistic vision of the clusterfuck that would be any Republican's campaign this year

Goons are highly tuned into the political process. We are merely being realistic :colbert:

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer

TheMcD posted:

Money raised doesn't care about the predicted voting in the state, only awareness, which is still at 100% for us. We're still good with California until our returns start hitting 200K.

sweet, i vote for that goons

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
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Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

Week 13



Alright, we've reached the halfway point. We're getting there! I don't know where "there" is, but we're getting there!

code:
State:

Cali/NV: II
Cali:    I

Action:

Funds/Awareness: II
Win Cali:        I

Issue:

N/A:      II
Win Cali: I
Basically no voting this time around, but it still makes for a simple plan.





First we fundraise twice in California...



...then we go to Nevada...



...and build a Campaign HQ there for more awareness. The stamina works out perfectly!



So that's it for this turn (we have a Campaign HQ in Nevada now, honest, you just can't see it behind Cruz's massive bobbling noggin), let's see what the next one brings.



Michelle goes to Florida and gives a speech on Wall Street Regulation, goes to West Virginia and picks up a political opportunity (which I genuinely just did not see), which turns out to be a Jaded Consultant, slightly hurting her ratings in West Virginia (i.E. it's loving nothing), then she goes to California and does nothing there.



She also picks up the Christian Confederation endorsement. This is a weird campaign.



Finally, here are the dumb polls again. We're not doing well. We should pull a Romney and just get pollsters who only give us good polls.

VOTING

As usual. State, Action, Issue. I'm still game to see how you're going to pull this off.

Friend Commuter
Nov 3, 2009
SO CLEVER I WANT TO FUCK MY OWN BRAIN.
Smellrose
hahaha you think we're gonna pull this off

California, TV ad, fighting ISIS

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

Friend Commuter posted:


California, TV ad, fighting ISIS

Yeah this.

Cathode Raymond
Dec 30, 2015

My antenna is telling me that you're probably wrong about this.
Soiled Meat
:negative:

We lost the Christian Confederation? But Ted Cruz is belligerently Christian! How did this happen?

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
---------
Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

Cathode Raymond posted:

:negative:

We lost the Christian Confederation? But Ted Cruz is belligerently Christian! How did this happen?

It happened because I considered Religious Freedom to be a less important issue than Big Government, basically.

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Friend Commuter posted:

hahaha you think we're gonna pull this off

California, TV ad, fighting ISIS

cool with this

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice

Friend Commuter posted:

hahaha you think we're gonna pull this off

California, TV ad, fighting ISIS

Sounds good

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH

Herr Tog posted:

NOT cool with this

Florida, TV AD, ****ISIS***

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Slaan posted:

Florida, TV AD, ****ISIS***

Yeah this is a better idea, we're much more likely to win Florida than California. That is, if we pretend the campaign is salvageable at this point.

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
---------
Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

Crazycryodude posted:

Yeah this is a better idea, we're much more likely to win Florida than California. That is, if we pretend the campaign is salvageable at this point.

And, uh, Fighting ISIS isn't a top five issue in California, so we actually can't use it for a TV ad there.

Friend Commuter
Nov 3, 2009
SO CLEVER I WANT TO FUCK MY OWN BRAIN.
Smellrose

TheMcD posted:

And, uh, Fighting ISIS isn't a top five issue in California, so we actually can't use it for a TV ad there.

Minor details.

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Slaan posted:

Florida, TV AD, ****ISIS***

I CHANGE

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Slaan posted:

Florida, TV AD, ****ISIS***

This is it. The path to the white house....

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
Pennsylvania, Build, Fighting Isis.

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
---------
Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

Week 14



Another vote, another week.

code:
State:

California:   III
Florida:      III
Pennsylvania: I

Action:

Ad:    IIIIII
Build: I

Issue:

Fighting ISIS: IIIIIII
This one's a bit iffy. We can't actually do an ad on Fighting ISIS in California, and we can't build there either. So we're going to be doing something a bit different this time.



We're going to Florida...



...and putting down the appropriate ad there.



Then we're going to Pennsylvania...



...and plopping down a Campaign HQ there.



Finally, I just decide to head to Virginia for a little awareness boost, since we've got a bit of stamina to spare and can still leave one to "rest". On to the next turn.



Michelle goes to California and does nothing, then goes to Louisiana and plops down a ground game ad over her supporting Reducing Wealth Gap, then goes to Florida and upgrades her HQ there. Now, it's interview time for us!



This should hypothetically be an easier interview, which might translate into better results? I don't know. I don't know a drat thing about these interviews.









I just go there and give the conservative answers (no, I didn't actually answer "I'd make math easier", I picked "I don't like it", I just thought it was kinda funny).



Apparently, I did well.



And so that's the situation going into this week.



Finally, here's the polls. I think we gained a bit. Does it mean anything? Almost certainly not.

VOTING

The usual. State, Action, Issue. I'd say something about trying to check whether the thing you want to do is actually possible, but I think I know you better than that. You're just being in character, I know.

Spreadsheet

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer
Thank you for interrupting us so well and sticking to attack ads without prompt.

Xarn
Jun 26, 2015

Herr Tog posted:

sticking to attack ads without prompt.


This is really important to me, even though I kinda lost interest in the game. There just doesn't seem to be much depth.

Friend Commuter
Nov 3, 2009
SO CLEVER I WANT TO FUCK MY OWN BRAIN.
Smellrose
No, I'm not being in character, I'm just not paying attention (i suppose that might be in character but i swear it's not intentional).

Ohio, TV Ad, Securing the Borders

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
---------
Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

Week 15



Time for another week on the campaign trail. What's today's agenda?

code:
State:

Ohio: I

Action:

Ad: I

Issue:

Securing The Borders: I
...well, that's delightfully simple! Congratulations, Friend Commuter, you just had the most powerful vote ever had!



Ohayou, Ohio! I'm here to drop off some ads!



First of all, there's the TV ad that was decided upon. Now, we have 6 stamina left, enough for two more ads. As tempting as it may be to drop three TV ads on Ohio, that's probably not a good use of our resources.





Instead, I put down some ground game ads on pertinent issues. And that's it for that week. On to the next one!



This turn, Michelle goes to Iowa and does nothing, goes to Florida and upgrades her HQ to level three, and then goes to Maryland and does nothing.



I also decide to move Herman Cain up a bit to get some awareness boosts in South Carolina, where Michelle is beating us because of her HQ's awareness boosting. This should help solidify the South a bit.



Here's a look at California. It's tied, and Michelle's awareness is only going up. It's a lost cause, probably.



Finally, here's the polls. We're officially falling below McCain levels. How much lower can we fall?

VOTING

Same as usual. State, Action, Issue. Remember, your vote has more power than ever!

Spreadsheet

Friend Commuter
Nov 3, 2009
SO CLEVER I WANT TO FUCK MY OWN BRAIN.
Smellrose
A glorious victory for some idiot on the internet all right-minded people!

Yeah, we have a woeful fraction of the electoral vote but actually a fairly solid majority of the popular vote. The joys of representative democracy, eh?

Florida, Ad, Social Security. If anyone else wants to vote, that would be super cool!

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

What happened to win California at any cost?

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
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Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

CirclMastr posted:

What happened to win California at any cost?

Well, it was a single vote. The attack ad plan was put forward by several people, and over multiple votes, so I eventually just adapted it into my general style. If there's a larger push to win Cali at all costs (and really, given the lack of voting, that's only a few people), I'll do that.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Friend Commuter posted:

A glorious victory for some idiot on the internet all right-minded people!

Yeah, we have a woeful fraction of the electoral vote but actually a fairly solid majority of the popular vote. The joys of representative democracy, eh?

Florida, Ad, Social Security. If anyone else wants to vote, that would be super cool!

I'm curious if we could retake Florida. I'd also advise to do something about the Midwest.

Also purple Kansas is the most insane poo poo on Earth, talk about pipe dream :v:

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
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Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

Grapplejack posted:

I'm curious if we could retake Florida. I'd also advise to do something about the Midwest.

Also purple Kansas is the most insane poo poo on Earth, talk about pipe dream :v:

Fun fact: We're currently splitting Florida 48% Dem, 2% Indy, 50% Rep, and both of our awarenesses are capped at 100%. Unless Michelle goes in and does more to Florida, our superior ad position should net it for us. Of course, that's a big "if".

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer
I have no idea.

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
First, Caine is on NORTH Carolina, not the lovely worst carolina

Speaking of: North Carolina, TV AD, PRO-MILITARY :patriot:

Cathode Raymond
Dec 30, 2015

My antenna is telling me that you're probably wrong about this.
Soiled Meat
We lost the Christian Confederation and now we don't have enough faith power to cast Miracle Shower and our ground game is suffering for it. Is what I think is happening.


Slaan posted:


Speaking of: North Carolina, TV AD, PRO-MILITARY Michelle is anti-military :patriot:

We made ourselves a promise :colbert:

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice
NORTH CAROLINA, ATTACK AD, ANTI-MILITARY :911:

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
---------
Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

Extra - The 1.03 Update and Hillary's Worst Nightmare

Alright, the game just updated again, so I guess I might as well do a little side-update to show what's new. We might as well just look at the changelog, and I'll go into a bit more detail. Also, before we do that, I've now learned that there's no real problem with updates as far as keeping save games goes. Everything just stays the same way as it was before, so our Hindenburg of a campaign is going to proceed soon.

Alright, so, what do we have?

code:
- Clinton and Trump now have "Presidential Candidate" titles to indicate their post-convention status in the race.
- Added Mike Pence's "Vice-Presidential Candidate 2016" title
First off, we have some minor text changes turned into patch notes in order to pad the thing.

code:
- Added Presidential Candidate Jill Stein.
- Added new Vice-Presidential Candidates as playable characters:
    - Jill Stein (Green Party)
    - Bill Weld (Libertarian Party)
    - Ajamu Baraka (Green Party)
    - Tim Kaine (Democratic Party)
Then, we have Jill Stein being added, which is so great that they had to mention it twice, also putting her into the vice presidential candidates' list. How rude. At least Kaine has an actual statistical chance of becoming President, you know, he doesn't deserve to be put in with those other three. And yes, that means you can now run the actual Green Party ticket in this game, meaning that my go-to ticket of Monaca Towa and Donald Trump is now the #2 ticket with the least actual governing experience, as being a fictional dictator of a single city who maintains power by virtue of having killer robots roam the streets has to at least count for something.

...I'm not just going to poo poo on the Greens in this update, don't worry. It's this game, not the Greens, really. It just makes me want to take entirely unwarranted snipes at people. Like a politician would! Not that it matters. Who's going to read this, anyway?

code:
- Reduced Donald Trump's "Fund Raising" statistic to better the actual amounts of money he has brought in during the summer.
- Reduced Hillary Clinton's "Stamina" statistic
Anyway, we have some slight changes to character attributes, which is loving hilarious for reasons I'll go into later. We get Trump with less Fund Raising Ability (they don't even bother to keep their attribute names straight) because his campaign has jack poo poo for money, and we have Hillary with less Stamina because she's sick. I've stopped paying attention to the presidential campaign entirely out of existential despair, and even I've picked up on those things due to osmosis. And I live in Germany.

code:
- New issues:
    - Dakota Access Pipeline
    - National Anthem Protest
    - Zika Funding
We have three new issues! The Dakota Access Pipeline, the National Anthem Protest, and Zika Funding. All of these are actually quite up-to-date, all things considered, so props to them on that, I suppose. It'll be interesting to come back to this game in two years or so and having to remember just what the gently caress the "national anthem protest" was about. As for how people stand on the issues:

Dakota Access Pipeline: Democrats are against, Independents are for, Republicans are for.
National Anthem Protest: Democrats are for, Independents are for, Republicans are against.
Zika Funding: Everybody is for, Republicans less than others.

Oh, also, I have a question that I'm sure nobody will be able to answer: Why is National Anthem Protest not a top five issue in California, but is one in states like Indiana and Pennsylvania? You'd think the state that has the team that Colin Kaepernick gets paid real well to sit on the bench while a loving Jaguars QB takes his job for would have that issue be fairly important. It's like how "Fixing Flint Water Crisis" isn't as important an issue in Michigan as "Fixing Infrastructure". If the specialized version isn't going to be more important than the generalized version in the loving state it's about, then why even have it?

code:
- Slightly decreased the importance of Keystone pipeline in some states as interest has shifted away from this issue.
- Renamed "Hillary's Emails" to "Probing Hillary's Emails" to better indicate what supporting this issue means.
- Increase importance of the "Probing Hillary's Emails" issue as this has become a major campaign issue.
- Decreased importance of the "Fighting ISIS" issue slightly as other issues have become more important.
- Increased the importance of the "Securing the Border" issue to reflect the hardening line against immigration.
- Increased the importance "Reducing wealth gap increase" to reflect increasing economic anxiety of the middle class.
Finally, we have some issue importance fiddling. I suppose this is all OK. Fighting ISIS really was a dominating issue before, and I'm pretty sure it's not dominating the news the way it would have to have in this game. Though note that the decreased importance of Fighting ISIS and increased importance of Reducing Wealth Gap would have made our Cruz vs. Obama campaign even tougher, as the former is our bread and butter issue while Obama loves talking about the wealth gap.

Now, let's take a closer look at those new candidates.



Ajamu Baraka:

Stamina: 9
Money: 4
Fund Raising Ability: 4
Charisma: 7
Appearance: 5
Credibility: 4
Experience: 5
Intelligence: 7
Minority Appeal: 8
Religious: 4



Bill Weld:

Stamina: 8
Money: 5
Fund Raising Ability: 6
Charisma: 5
Appearance: 5
Credibility: 5
Experience: 7
Intelligence:
Minority Appeal: 4
Religious: 5



Jill Stein:

Stamina: 9
Money: 4
Fund Raising Ability: 4
Charisma: 7
Appearance: 5
Credibility: 4
Experience: 4
Intelligence: 7
Minority Appeal: 6
Religious: 3



Tim Kaine:

Stamina: 6
Money: 6
Fund Raising Ability: 6
Charisma: 6
Appearance: 4
Credibility: 6
Experience: 7
Intelligence: 5
Minority Appeal: 4
Religious: 5

The funny thing that I was talking about is Baraka's and Stein's stats. They're basically identical, except Baraka has more experience (based on what I don't know), has more Minority Appeal (because he's a human rights worker with a history of fighting for minorities, or because he's black? You decide which the developers picked) and has more Religious appeal (based on what I don't know). Disregarding that two of those three seem entirely arbitrary, the funny thing is that this makes Baraka an inherently better candidate than Stein. So basically, if you wanted to win with those two, you'd be running Baraka/Stein, not the other way around.

And really, Weld and Kaine's stats are pretty funny too, if just for how generic they are. This is an inherent problem with statting political candidates - beyond a few particular cases, people like Weld, Caine, Pence, Kasich, etc. are basically all the same. So you just get some arbitrary swaps and that's it.

Now, I promised "Hillary's Worst Nightmare", and this is what I mean with that: If you've been reading the thread (you don't, I know, but just go with it), you might have noticed that I ran a game where I took my custom candidate, Monaca, and ran a campaign with her where I used only a single issue: Funding NASA. I won fairly handily. Now, I decided to try something else that might be fun - run a campaign against Hillary using nothing but Probing Hillary's Emails as an issue. So basically, I'd be running speeches screaming EMAILS EMAILS EMAILS and running ads all over the country screaming EMAILS EMAILS EMAILS, meaning that not only will this scandal remain in the headlines the entire time, but people will actually give a poo poo about it.



This is the latest version of Monaca. I decided on dropping a few points in Charisma, Credibility and Experience in favor of jacking up Stamina. The benefit to this is more fundraisers and more building, primarily. Essentially, I can fly into a state and build a level 3 HQ in that state in one turn, money permitting. That's pretty cool. But of course, the real question is, how did the campaign go?

















I don't know, you tell me.

The Week 16 update should be coming before the weekend.

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer
Oooh you are in Germany. So the reason the national anthem is a more serious issue outside of California is because the other states care more about football than California.

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice

Herr Tog posted:

Oooh you are in Germany. So the reason the national anthem is a more serious issue outside of California is because the other states care more about football than California.

:agreed:

We Californians see Kapernick for what he really is: a crappy QB.

EDIT: Our crappy QB.

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Cathode Raymond
Dec 30, 2015

My antenna is telling me that you're probably wrong about this.
Soiled Meat

TheMcD posted:


I've stopped paying attention to the presidential campaign entirely out of existential despair


McD, I respect you enough to be honest with you. It's going to get so much worse. So, so much worse.

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