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DICKS FOR DINNER
Sep 6, 2008

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The reason Meridian Shock is exclusive to Hokuto users is because Hokuto Shinken is specifically a martial art that strikes specific pressure points in the target's body to induce whatever effect, whether it's healing (like how Ken gave Rin her voice back), incapacitation, or just straight making someone explode from the inside out. Nanto styles don't give a gently caress about that sort of precision and just go for brute force to make people dead real quick.

Also, Jagi's rapid strike is actually a distinct technique from the Hundred Crack Fist named the Hokuto Senju Satsu/Thousand Hand Slaughter, although the only real difference I could tell you is that it uses the fingertips instead of a closed fist like the Hundred Crack Fist.

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DICKS FOR DINNER
Sep 6, 2008

Stand Proud
Toki's dick exploding powers come from him using the Compassionate Fist sub-school of Hokuto Shinken as his personal style, on account of him being literal anime Jesus and all. It's what lets him do his wandering doctor thing, and also what leads to his unique enemy killing animations, since he's supposed to be such a kind soul that he's even willing to extend his enemies the mercy of having a real party for their last moments.

Thing is, I haven't read the manga in years at this point, but I don't remember anyone's dick actually glowing before they die so I think that was an invention on the part of the game makers :v: Although it's not that big of a leap, just being a little more explicit about it.

On a semi-related note, although we'll be seeing a lot more of him later, Raoh uses the Fist of Strength sub-school. It's much less concerned with striking pressure points with finesse like Kenshiro and Toki do, though he's plenty capable of it (see: Rei), and much more concerned with just outright eviscerating opponents with your massive ham hands and pure fighting will.

DICKS FOR DINNER
Sep 6, 2008

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ProfessorProf posted:

It's honestly appropriate for the first few stages to have really underwhelming boss fights. It takes like 20 episodes of the anime before Ken is more than vaguely inconvenienced by any of his enemies.

To be a little fair, that pacing went much quicker in the manga - Ken doesn't fight Shin until episode 20 of the anime, but that happens in chapter 4 of the manga. And they're 15 page chapters, too, the anime just has an insane amount of padding and lovely original episodes.

Omobono posted:

Why exactly did Ken's dad nominate him as successor instead of Toki, by the way? Did the apocalypse already happen, disqualifying Toki because of radiation poisoning?
(I fully understand ignoring Raoh, dude had world conquest as a goal since he was like 5)

Yeah, the apocalypse happened before the successor was chosen and Toki actually took himself out of contention due to his radiation sickness. He absolutely would've been the successor otherwise, he was outright better than Ken and on equal footing with Raoh without being a massive awful dick.

DICKS FOR DINNER
Sep 6, 2008

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Thanks for the LP, you did a great job of showing stuff off while also being able to take a step back and let the game speak for itself sometimes. And as someone who's basically a Fist of the North Star scholar at this point, it's also really impressive how far they went to make this game a really fitting title, down to the mechanical differences and one-on-one fights that make it more than just a Dynasty Warriors clone.

Also as a, maybe the final, bit of FotNS trivia: the Five Chariots. Reference is made to them, but the only ones we see are Fudoh and Juuza, along with the armies for Wind and Fire and one quick peek at the Water army - they were the ones guarding Yuria when Raoh falls through the floor. So I figured I'd just do a quick rundown of the actual Chariots to give a little more context to the Last Nanto General plot:

Hyui of the Wind - the first Chariot you meet in the manga, and by far the least important. He's a total chump and gets killed by Raoh in literally one hit.

Shuren of the Flames - similar to Hyui in that he's a non-factor, but has an infinitely more metal death: he sets himself on loving fire with phosphorous and tries to take Raoh with him, only for Raoh to be inexplicably immune and twist Shuren's neck a full 180 degrees.

Juuza of the Clouds - what little we see of him in game is basically his whole personality, he's all about taking it easy and doing as he pleases. In fact, his getting involved in the Last Nanto General's scheme is what tips Raoh off to her identity - Yuria, Juuza's half-sister, is the only person that could drive him to give a poo poo about anything. He's also very talented and fights Raoh to a draw in their first encounter before stealing his horse, but is killed in their second fight.

Fudoh of the Mountains - Fudoh's probably the most story important of the Chariots. He was an ex-bandit that was changed by a child Yuria's kindness and began raising orphaned children. He also humbled a teenaged Raoh by beating the tar out of him, which leads Raoh, in an attempt to conquer his demons, to challenge him to another fight after he steals away Yuria. Fudoh actually wins their rematch by the terms set by Raoh due to his overwhelming desire to protect the orphans, but is killed by a ballista bolt from Raoh's army.

Rihaku of the Ocean - strategist and ostensible leader of the Chariots. In spite of being the leader, he sucks at fighting and his strategies backfire on him - he set up the traps in the room where Kenshiro and Raoh fought, which means he's more or less indirectly responsible for Raoh finding Yuria.

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Sep 6, 2008

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CzarChasm posted:

Have a couple plot questions you might be able to help clarify since I don't think they got covered in what we saw

1) What is the difference between Raoh and the Ken-oh names? It was two names for the same guy, right?

Yeah it's just two names. Raoh's his given name and I suppose you could call Ken-Oh his title, since it just means "King of Fists." It's really just a way to introduce some drama when Ken finds out that the new big bad is someone he knows :v:

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2) What really happened to Yuria? Obviously she didn't throw herself to her death like King had said - So was his story bullshit, or is she actually stronger than we are first led to believe and she faked her death/survived the fall?

She did throw herself from the balcony, but was rescued mid-fall (somehow) by the Five Chariots. When Shin made it to the bottom, he found them there, they briefed him on her identity as the Last Nanto General and swore him to silence.

e: for a little further clarification on that, Raoh intended on invading Southern Cross to capture Yuria, Shin knew he wouldn't be able to protect her from Raoh and so left her to the Chariots and took on the role of her murderer to deceive everyone, which fits since his star is the Star of Martyrdom.

DICKS FOR DINNER fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Jul 30, 2016

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