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kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Bluedeanie posted:

Cain is back, baby — at least until he blows his knee out again because Daniel Cormier hit him with a sledgehammer in their weekly yoga session.

To new guys -- this was not a joke about a lovers' quarrel; it's a joke about how hard American Kickboxing Academy (AKA) fighters train.
The gym is notorious for their guys getting injuries from hard sparring and questionable training methods and having to pull out of fights.
Posting ridiculous strength and conditioning videos from fighters is a regular meme.

e: found the other half of the reference:
http://puu.sh/pWZ7M/9d170e0485.webm

kimbo305 fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Jul 11, 2016

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kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
Joanna was widely liked for being goofy and generally cool outside of the cage. Stuff like this:
https://www.instagram.com/p/_3qxraICPY/

But some people were turned off by how she came off on TUF, whether it was really biased by editing or by the situation. She was really aggressive and confrontational with Claudia, including this:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x47ilox

Sometimes, the fight overshadows stuff outside the ring, and sometimes, the other way around.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Bluedeanie posted:

MMA as we understand it today really began to form in 1993, when pay-per-view broadcasting pioneer SEG aired an eight-man “no holds barred” one-night fighting tournament called The Ultimate Fighting Championship, which really was not all that dissimilar to the LeBell-Savage stunt. The goal was to pit eight practitioners of various martial artists against one another in a tourney format to “determine” the baddest dudes and best styles; it was won by Royce Gracie of the Gracie Family, a martial arts dynasty that developed the Brazilian style of jiu jitsu. In some ways that night set the tone for the future of MMA training and talent development — everyone seemed to realize that submission grappling was a really strong base as it provided a problem that no pure striker really had an answer to at the time, plus it can be seen as the catalyst for there being so many fiercely nationalistic Brazilian fighters in MMA who came to view Royce as something of a folk hero.

I think it's important to note that the Gracies were involved with the UFC to a greater degree than implied in this section. Rorion Gracie worked with Art Davies and SEG to plan the first UFC. Here he is with Art Davies at UFC 1's rule meeting:

It wasn't that Royce was a random competitor that managed to get picked randomly -- he was a ringer that the organizers knew would have a good shot at winning.
So Royce won like the Gracies were counting on him to, which not only kicked off the sport, but also brought folks in to train at Gracie BJJ schools, leading to a separate history of the commercialization of BJJ.

Some more reading on how the Gracies were involved with UFC 1:
http://mmajunkie.com/2014/06/ufc-co-founder-art-davie-gracies-group-of-alpha-males-trying-to-impress-the-old-man
http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/11/12/5043630/rorion-gracie-and-the-day-he-created-the-ufc
http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/haymaker/the-story-of-how-ufc-1-was-almost-derailed-at-the-11th-hour-070114

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Bundt Cake posted:

10 years. never seen it

Too busy experiencing beejs :ortiz:

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

C. Everett Koop posted:

One nitpick: UFC's new owners are WME-IMG, not INC. I know this because I had a cup of coffee with the latter a lifetime ago, before their merger.

That's cool you had coffee with the whole company.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Bluedeanie posted:

4. Jon Jones' was frustrating at first but some of the proest posts this forum has ever seen were birthed of his immeasurable fuckups

Yeah, but in the cage, it was just one lackluster fight against OSP. His haters have yet to see him get totally owned in a fight.

I don't have anything against Renan Barao, but his getting completely dominated by TJ twice was satisfying for his getting tested on the simplicity of his game and the general raising of expectations for MMA striking.
Speaking of, where does that "barao-rao-rao-rao" joke come from?

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
All the new guys still following -- this The Ultimate Fighter season should be well worth watching, unlike the last several. Each contestant is more of a known quantity, by virtue of being a champion of some local/regional promotion.
If nothing else, should be free decent fights if you have the channel.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Aye Doc posted:

i've taken a liking to fights with two heavyweights who gas out super fast and spend the rest of their time simulating a sloppy, drunken thanksgiving brawl. what are the best examples of this i can watch?

My fave will always be Manhoef x Cyborg. It's a very gradual but delicious gas out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om3sZo9KIxI&t=39s

If you want to straight backyard brawling from the get-go, there's always the Tank x Scott Ferrozzo rematch.
But don't watch it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD5zEKaXrEU&t=30s

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
I don't think so. It is antiquated, but it works. It feels like crowd attendance at the weighins have only increased as the sport has grown. As long as the crowd is there, it's good hype and good business for the event itself.
I have to imagine there's a lot of betting that hinges on how fighters look at weighins, though obviously that's now blunted by true vs for-show weigh-ins.

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kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Fat Twitter Man posted:

Charles Oliveira is a good glass cannon. He's only been to decision twice in 17 UF fights..
Mostly sub wins, though.

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