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Terrific Accident posted:Having played the beta, I wouldn't hold my breath for Dauntless being any good. The combat is janky even by monster hunter standards and they tried way too hard to make the weapons distinct from their MH counterparts. The hammer has a poorly explained gun mechanic that doesn't jive with the playstyle and the sword is extremely simple except for a pointless power up mechanic where you gain charges and then release them for a temporary boost. This would be fine if the weapons themselves were satisfying or had any oomph to them, but the animations themselves lack any weight and it feels like you're whacking monsters with wiffle bats. In the current build monsters also stand around for periods of time literally not doing anything while you beat them to death. It's unsatisfying to play on just about every front and I can't see future builds really turning this around, having seen what their philosophy on weapon design is. It's even more pointless now that we're only two months away from World. I gotta ask, how far you did you get? Because it sounds like you're describing the training wheel monsters you start off on. The latter behemoths could actually stand to have more opportunities to whale on em.
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Bombadilillo posted:This is the problem I have with every MH knockoff. Theres no weight behind it. The first World trailer with the greatsword golf swing just game me the tingles. Thats MH. I cant wait. Another thing I noticed by playing other hunting games is that usually you can achieve a build that lets you be very sloppy without affecting your DPS too much, just going ham on the monster without any regard for dodging. Usually that's because either the damage you take is too low or the recovery time from being hit is too low and the healing is too fast. In MH sloppy playing severely affects your DPS, not to mention your chances of clearing a quest. In Toukiden I had a lifesteal build that just let me use the dual knives spin attack forever while healing myself from almost dead to full HP in half a second or so, making get hit almost a nonissue. Soul sacrifice had the rock armor that let you simply shrug off damage and removed all stagger. Let's not even mention God Eater and all its stupid overpowered stuff. It usually makes every fight the same since you don't really have to learn patterns or strategies anymore. That's what kills the longevity of these games for me. Is Dauntless like that?
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7c Nickel posted:I gotta ask, how far you did you get? Because it sounds like you're describing the training wheel monsters you start off on. The latter behemoths could actually stand to have more opportunities to whale on em. We got up to Quillshot on the first island before getting bored. I could see the later monsters being more aggressive.
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nerdz posted:Another thing I noticed by playing other hunting games is that usually you can achieve a build that lets you be very sloppy without affecting your DPS too much, just going ham on the monster without any regard for dodging. Usually that's because either the damage you take is too low or the recovery time from being hit is too low and the healing is too fast. In MH sloppy playing severely affects your DPS, not to mention your chances of clearing a quest. Once you get past the early monsters, no.
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Welp, just remembered I've been neglecting my credit card rewards building up for like half a year now and I have enough points to cover most of a ps4 pro. Are there any other games worth getting on a ps4 besides MHW that aren't also on PC?
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Umbreon posted:Welp, just remembered I've been neglecting my credit card rewards building up for like half a year now and I have enough points to cover most of a ps4 pro. Are there any other games worth getting on a ps4 besides MHW that aren't also on PC? Persona 5, Bloodborne, Yakuza 0/Kiwami, and Until Dawn if you're into horror.
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Neo_Crimson posted:Persona 5, Bloodborne, Yakuza 0/Kiwami, and Until Dawn if you're into horror. I've been wanting to try the Persona series out, sounds like this would be a good time to start
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Horizon Zero Dawn is also a definite must-buy for exclusives.
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Umbreon posted:Welp, just remembered I've been neglecting my credit card rewards building up for like half a year now and I have enough points to cover most of a ps4 pro. Are there any other games worth getting on a ps4 besides MHW that aren't also on PC? ff12: zodiac age its so gd good
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:ff12: zodiac age I want this but I know I'll never put in the time.
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I just found out monster hunter world isn't getting the same release date on PC as consoles fuuck
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eonwe posted:I just found out monster hunter world isn't getting the same release date on PC as consoles I'm gonna get it for PS4 right away and then I'm gonna get it again for my laptop when it comes out an eternity later. I'm still mad it's not on the Switch so it can just be portable and have local multiplayer immediately, but fine, I'll buy your stupid great game twice. I'm mad I don't get to play with my husband immediately, but he might be angrier that I won't be able to carry him through every hunt in the game until the PC version, cause we sure aren't getting a second tv and PS4 for this.
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eonwe posted:I just found out monster hunter world isn't getting the same release date on PC as consoles This ain't our first rodeo, friend.
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Flowers posted:I'm gonna get it for PS4 right away and then I'm gonna get it again for my laptop when it comes out an eternity later. I'm still mad it's not on the Switch so it can just be portable and have local multiplayer immediately, but fine, I'll buy your stupid great game twice. I'm mad I don't get to play with my husband immediately, but he might be angrier that I won't be able to carry him through every hunt in the game until the PC version, cause we sure aren't getting a second tv and PS4 for this. i don't own a ps4 so im fuked!!!!! Zedsdeadbaby posted:This ain't our first rodeo, friend. ya 
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eonwe posted:i don't own a ps4 so im fuked!!!!! From the Japanese interviews they don't sound confident in their porting abilities. Best guess late 2018 early 2019. Inc. Ps4 purchase lol
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Nov 24, 2017 23:11
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Dauntless founder packs are 50% off for the next day if anyone is interested.
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7c Nickel posted:Dauntless founder packs are 50% off for the next day if anyone is interested. Is it worth it?
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Elman posted:Is it worth it? Ehh... I think so, but it's gonna move to open beta in a few moths and be free to play thereafter. Do it if you really want to try it early and want to support more hunting action games in general.
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I’d say no, but I’ve only played 3-4 hours of the alpha. I think the combat is really poorly done and the game itself is laid out poorly in terms of upgrades and loot. I think you would be better off just replaying a different MH game and just waiting for world. It’d take a pretty huge change for me to say Dauntless is moving in the right direction.
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Goddammit, I'll definitely buy mhw on bone and pc. Like I'm not going to have my fix on multiple systems
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Elman posted:Is it worth it? Short answer no. Long answer probably not. Definitely don't spend 40 bux or whatever "50% off" is right now.
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Haquer posted:Short answer no. Long answer probably not. 40 is the regular price, so 20. I really don't know why everyone is so down on Dauntless. It's still got some hangups, but it's still in beta. I suppose that's the thing, I like seeing games grow from beta but a lot of people should probably wait for launch.
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7c Nickel posted:40 is the regular price, so 20. I really don't know why everyone is so down on Dauntless. It's still got some hangups, but it's still in beta. I suppose that's the thing, I like seeing games grow from beta but a lot of people should probably wait for launch. It's real ugly, dude. And as dumb as Capcom is sometimes it's hard for other people to make a game as fun as Monster Hunter. Also I know that killing a monster is basically the same as opening a loot box, but it feels way better to rip chunks out of the monster myself with a 10 year old carving animation that it does to open a literal loot box I pulled out of a monster.
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Anyone with experience with the Bow in most recent games? I stopped playing on early PSP so I'm not sure how viable it is now. The videos shown for MH:W don't really show it at higher level play, just some small hunts.
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Kortel posted:Anyone with experience with the Bow in most recent games? I stopped playing on early PSP so I'm not sure how viable it is now. The videos shown for MH:W don't really show it at higher level play, just some small hunts. Bow has been ridiculously good since 3U. Whether by having a single extra overpowered example (Kelbi Bow in 3U, Seregios Bow in 4U, Teostra Bow in Gen), or the weapon class in general getting new tricks (Power Shot in 4U, Adept style in Gen).
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I've played enough knock-off hunting action titles to see every iteration of mechanics, and those are rough enough, it's impossible to recommend Dauntless because it's a literal actual beta instead of just a half-baked genre title.
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Kortel posted:Anyone with experience with the Bow in most recent games? I stopped playing on early PSP so I'm not sure how viable it is now. The videos shown for MH:W don't really show it at higher level play, just some small hunts. Bow will probably be OP in world on PC. Mouse controls are constantly better than controllers.
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I tried using those sickles in dauntless. they suck rear end.
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Alpha Phoenix posted:Bow will probably be OP in world on PC. Mouse controls are constantly better than controllers. I admire your optimism regarding World PC having usable KB+M controls
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Alpha Phoenix posted:Bow will probably be OP in world on PC. Mouse controls are constantly better than controllers. That was definitely not the case for MHO.
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I am expecting the PC version to perform playably as an MT framework game, while having mouse and keyboard support so unplayable that it basically won't exist as an option I would never want to play this kind of game with a mouse and keyboard anyway
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Nechronic posted:It's real ugly, dude. And as dumb as Capcom is sometimes it's hard for other people to make a game as fun as Monster Hunter. Dauntless has it's own issues, both technical and design, but even a non-alpha hunting action game is always going to be secondary. We like monhun, they want to differentiate their game from monhun, and then all we talk about is how not-monhun it is. If some hypothetical company did what World is doing (MH minus the bullshit) then they'd get bashed for being a clone. There really isn't a winning scenario. Digirat posted:I would never want to play this kind of game with a mouse and keyboard anyway Frontier, aside from the fact that it was gen2 controls in a language I couldn't read, performed just fine. Remapping will be mandatory and that's one of the areas where PC ports mess up, but it's not like sticks are required for the game to function.
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So I hope I'm not a huge rear end in a top hat for asking this, but what does World actually change? So far all I've heard is that they plan to remove loading screens between zones and make bows and guns work more like a third person shooter. Frankly the first bit would be enough to get me to try the series again, when I do try to play a MH game I just get annoyed by staring at a loading screen every 20 seconds while looking for poo poo.
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Flytrap posted:So I hope I'm not a huge rear end in a top hat for asking this, but what does World actually change? So far all I've heard is that they plan to remove loading screens between zones and make bows and guns work more like a third person shooter. Off the top of my head -You can move while using items and your character doesn't flex anymore afterwards -You only get one cat which you create at the beginning of the game -fishing doesn't suck anymore -You can call in help mid mission like the Souls series -You can change weapons mid mission -up to three monsters can appear now also they got unique animations when fighting each other -You don't have to go back after the mission ends, you can stick around to gather or kill other monsters -Insect Glaive has a real cool airdash now and it's the first weapon I'm gonna use when I get World
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IGN posted this a few days ago: http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/11/22/monster-hunter-world-47-changes-only-fans-will-notice 47 Changes Only Fans Will Notice Goes into a bit more detail about things established fans will be interested in.
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Boco_T posted:IGN posted this a few days ago: I guess I haven't been paying much attention to the pre-release hype videos, but abolishing the Blademaster/Gunner schism might be the greatest change ever? It was always such a hassle when trying to explore new weapon types with that silly arbitrary armor requirement. I'm only at #5 and there's already so many game changers.
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Oh, drat, that's actually a lot. Never expected such a major overhaul from such a long series. Thanks! I think I'll actually have to get into this one.
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Fancy Hat! posted:I guess I haven't been paying much attention to the pre-release hype videos, but abolishing the Blademaster/Gunner schism might be the greatest change ever? It was always such a hassle when trying to explore new weapon types with that silly arbitrary armor requirement.  And it makes a lot of sense since you can change equipment at base camp mid quest now. They want people to be able to easily change weapons and equipment. I'll miss how blademaster and gunner armor look different, but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make
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