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Rainuwastaken posted:Gaijinhunter actually has a video for that! That is extremely my poo poo, and a great name too. Gonna get that day 1 and start smashing faces. Thanks!
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Mortimer posted:Look, the question was "are gunlances bad". If your metric is "can the weapon kill the monster" then sure every weapon is good. The only reliable comparison between weapons is clear speed. Also lmao, the demo armors and weapons are a terrible judge of the weapons at endgame, gunlances are one of the best demo weapons but interestingly one of the worst HR weapons! Man that's horrific. Since some people here apparently can't math, these gunlance times are 58% and 42% longer than the lance times.
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Jul 13, 2016 21:18
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voltcatfish posted:Is the longsword still its 4u-nerfed self? It has sick hunter arts too and there are different ways to level the spirit meter depending on which style you pick. It's got all the same moves though. I don't see why anyone would complain about the weapon other than just not liking the play style in general.
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Jul 13, 2016 21:20
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Does anyone have a link handy that explains what styles grant/lose for each weapon? I know Gainjinhunter's videos talk about it but he doesn't have any up for the guns, particularly HBG. Also god damnit I still can't decide between SnS, Hammer, HBG, and catmode to start.
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Jul 13, 2016 21:25
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BMan posted:Man that's horrific. Since some people here apparently can't math, these gunlance times are 58% and 42% longer than the lance times. I don't think you understand monster hunter.
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Jul 13, 2016 21:25
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Countblanc posted:Does anyone have a link handy that explains what styles grant/lose for each weapon? I know Gainjinhunter's videos talk about it but he doesn't have any up for the guns, particularly HBG. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3LkRguLuHA This dude goes over it for each weapon in their respective videos.
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Jul 13, 2016 21:27
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keyboard vomit posted:I don't think you understand monster hunter. we get it dude, you want to make stuff go boom wowee zowee  some people are curious what weapons are mechanically better, just turn your brain off for those posts, thanks
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Jul 13, 2016 21:31
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Mortimer posted:Ahh charm hunting Not quite, you still have to use some sort of save manager using homebrew. Not like getting that up and running is super hard or anything, but it's probably enough to make people not want to bother with that.
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Jul 13, 2016 21:32
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Mortimer posted:we get it dude, you want to make stuff go boom wowee zowee Being extremely stylish is a core mechanic of monster hunter and the you fail to account for it.
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Jul 13, 2016 21:34
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Captain Flame Guy posted:Not quite, you still have to use some sort of save manager using homebrew. That's good! But also bad because I don't want to farm fish or charms, RIP keyboard vomit posted:Being extremely stylish is a core mechanic of monster hunter and the you fail to account for it. you can be stylish and efficient at the same time look at early 20th century germans What I'm going to miss most about no powersaves is I can't hack a legit charm that would allow me to fashion hunter but still be a god 
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Jul 13, 2016 21:41
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smh, people are already blatantly cheating online. Joined a charm farming group and one guy instantly turned in 89 coal. he was speedhacking and asked one of us for a farcaster (which he reused infinitely).
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MohShuvuu posted:smh, people are already blatantly cheating online. Joined a charm farming group and one guy instantly turned in 89 coal. he was speedhacking and asked one of us for a farcaster (which he reused infinitely). Play with goons and avoid cheaters~ 2 more days...
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Jul 13, 2016 21:59
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Why use Sword / Shield / Gunlance anymore if the Charge Blade exists? I understand you have to be Pretty Good to use it .. but I mean if you can, then why bother with anything else? I plan on shooting poo poo with bowguns and bows. So I'm just wondering for  reasons.
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NT Plus posted:Why use Sword / Shield / Gunlance anymore if the Charge Blade exists? I understand you have to be Pretty Good to use it .. but I mean if you can, then why bother with anything else? I plan on shooting poo poo with bowguns and bows. So I'm just wondering for Sword and Shields are great for status and in MHG are also getting a "coating"-like item to give them another edge. They also have the advantage of being able to use items while unsheathed. Gunlances are lances with guns attached to them! I mean come on!!
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Jul 13, 2016 22:06
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Because other weapons are fun and all, but sometimes you want to pull out a literal cannon on a stick, shove it in a monster's face, and pull the trigger
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NT Plus posted:Why use Sword / Shield / Gunlance anymore if the Charge Blade exists? I understand you have to be Pretty Good to use it .. but I mean if you can, then why bother with anything else? I plan on shooting poo poo with bowguns and bows. So I'm just wondering for From what I read, Charge blade got nerfed in MHX/Gen.
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NT Plus posted:Why use Sword / Shield / Gunlance anymore if the Charge Blade exists? I understand you have to be Pretty Good to use it .. but I mean if you can, then why bother with anything else? I plan on shooting poo poo with bowguns and bows. So I'm just wondering for Reposting from old thread: https://giant.gfycat.com/UltimateBlaringGermanwirehairedpointer.mp4
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Jul 13, 2016 22:09
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SnS is straight up buffed between hunter arts and coating. I'm really looking forward to them. Don't forget guild style increases the rate which hunter arts charge so all you lose in SnS is the back hop for a third art and the fast build up.
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Jul 13, 2016 22:11
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Triarii posted:Reposting from old thread: okay if shieldryukens are a thing i might have to give sns a try
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Electric Lady posted:Play with goons and avoid cheaters~ It's funny you posted this in the middle of powersave chat.
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Yo the OP might wanna mention the recently-revived iOS port of Freedom Unite, which despite goons having a heart attack about the notion of playing this game on a phone is awesome, controls really well, and made for an excellent entryway into the series. It might break for another year whenever they update iOS again, tho
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Jul 13, 2016 22:19
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Triarii posted:Reposting from old thread: I think I'mma adept bow and striker sns.
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NT Plus posted:Why use Sword / Shield / Gunlance anymore if the Charge Blade exists? I understand you have to be Pretty Good to use it .. but I mean if you can, then why bother with anything else? I plan on shooting poo poo with bowguns and bows. So I'm just wondering for I've played SnS as a support class before. There was this cool Red Khezu monk outfit that let normal potions and other consumables affect all players in an area. I used sword and shield since I didn't need to sheathe it to do. I used a weapon that applied paralysis so that, even though I did relatively low damage, I could still contribute to the offense that way.
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Jul 13, 2016 22:22
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How does SnS's stun potential match up against hammer's (using the coating that lets you stun on sword swings, of course)? Also which weapons have the strongest/most fun Aerial styles? I really love mounting as a mechanic but I don't like using the IG, but now Aerial means I theoretically have lots of other options!
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Jul 13, 2016 22:23
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Countblanc posted:How does SnS's stun potential match up against hammer's (using the coating that lets you stun on sword swings, of course)? Aerial Switch Axe's sword form does a hit on the vault and a hit coming down that count toward mounting. The energy charge skill means you can be in sword form 100% of the time if you want. It's super easy to rodeo with it. edit: Aerial Charge Blade can do the 2-hit burst from the air which is also pretty dang good.
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Jul 13, 2016 22:29
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Mortimer posted:we get it dude, you want to make stuff go boom wowee zowee You guys sound like you've never used gunlance before. Look, fundamentally gunlance is a slow weapon. It has always been a slow weapon. It is a bunker weapon. Bunker shoot. Bunker poke. Bunker wyvern fire. Bunker and then charge your bullet and then shoot. Need to move away? Too bad, your rear end is slow so you bunker. Now take a good second or so to reload after that full burst, and then sit and poke until your wyvern fire recharges. This does not make gunlance the worst weapon. It's the style of the weapon itself, this isn't new. Stop looking at run times and start looking at mechanics charges. You guys aren't getting the issue is that the heating mechanic is a stupid upkeep system that wasn't needed for the weapon. It's not difficult, and it isn't gonna make gunlance awful, but it's unwanted.
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How did they nerf the charge blade, at risk of causing another spergy derail? I mean, it kinda needed it, but I did not put in enough time in the weapon in 4U to notice any difference. Pls don't link a Gaijinhunter video. I mean, I like his videos but I am at work.
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Unlucky7 posted:How did they nerf the charge blade, at risk of causing another spergy derail? I mean, it kinda needed it, but I did not put in enough time in the weapon in 4U to notice any difference. They limited the way you can get red charge for your shield and made it so you cannot do an elemental burst after a guard/guard-point among some other minor things.
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The main thing is they took away the ability to go from a guard point straight into the super elemental discharge. Edit to have some semblance of non-redundant commentary: But if you weren't a super strong player who knew exactly when it was safe to take that free super, there probably won't be much of a difference for you.
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Lovely Senorita posted:i am going to call gunlance the 'glance' and that's it I prefer "gunce". I don't think it's about efficacy or even style, it's about finding a weapon with a rhythm and method that works for you. ...evade gunce was way better that guard gunce though.
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The CB nerf means you can do things besides GP into Super and not feel like you're wasting your vials. Getting into red shield isn't harder, you just lose the bash -> charge move to quickly top up and have to cancel another super instead.
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In regards to Adept style, what should I be looking for if I'm doing a last second block? I have no problems dodging at the right time to trigger the super cool dash, but I never notice anything different when I block at the last second.
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I am sticking with the CB because gently caress the haters. So glad Hammer is awesome again, as well. Bought this on impulse this afternoon when I heard it was coming to the US (day after tomorrow, apparently!) Maybe this will be the MH game that I actually use Bowguns. What's that? MORE ammo types?  Hammer/CB supremacy. If you're not breaking skulls, you're doing it wrong.
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1337kutkufan6969 posted:In regards to Adept style, what should I be looking for if I'm doing a last second block? Some weapons, despite having a shield, do not actually have an adept guard
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Rainuwastaken posted:Gaijinhunter actually has a video for that! Thanks for this, will probably make use of it! Ultimately I think I want Gammoth or Mizutsune armor for ~pretty~, though. I am thoroughly ready to Hunt Monsters. Bring on aerial bugblade and the revised bow. 
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This is gonna be it, this is gonna be the monster hunter that I keep playing enough to actually get somewhere in it.
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Triarii posted:Reposting from old thread:  uh ok wow guess I'm playing SnS instead
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Incidentally I still wish capture hardware or some other form of screen mirroring for the 3DS weren't so goddamned expensive at $200+, I want this on a bigger screen for my eyes, resolution be damned
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So uh, I just fought Yian Garuga for the first time.  I assume everyone had a good laugh at the board meeting where he was being designed.
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