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Wrist Watch
Apr 19, 2011

What?



Lipstick Apathy

Kiggles posted:

Can check for some small images over here

http://kiranico.com/en/mhx/


Thanks!

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Vanderdeath
Oct 1, 2005

God was a dream of good government.



How bad are the Gunlance changes? GL is my mainstay weapon and I hope it's not bad.

Ignimbrite
Jan 5, 2010

BALLS BALLS BALLS


Young Orc

Emalde you dirty rat you made a new thread while I was asleep ANYWAY



Gaffle
Aug 23, 2013

sWAg


I can't wait to fight Malfestio without those cats knocking me out of easy GS charge swings. I wish I could tell them to just leave me alone during confusion.

lokipunk
Jan 16, 2007


My girlfriend saw Athena's rear end on my comp and asked what kind of porn I was hiding.

Are there more insect glaive options? I loved that stupid thing but my irl hunt friends group fell apart.

keyboard vomit
Jun 23, 2012



Vanderdeath posted:

How bad are the Gunlance changes? GL is my mainstay weapon and I hope it's not bad.

Gunlance is still a lance with a gun stapled onto it.

It's good.

Your Computer
Oct 3, 2008



So it turns out the armor and the weapons I want the most in MHGen all come from Gammoth. Can't wait to farm him for weeks in the name of fashion

But I mean, look at this fancy thing (it's a lance):

Wrist Watch
Apr 19, 2011

What?



Lipstick Apathy

Vanderdeath posted:

How bad are the Gunlance changes? GL is my mainstay weapon and I hope it's not bad.

Basically, there's a heat gauge now. It rises every time you shell and at the level of your gauge determines whether you're getting full damage out of your stabs. The gauge goes down slowly over time, as well as every time you stab. Wyvern fire freezes the gauge in place for a couple minutes. It's intended to encourage people to mix up shelling and stabbing and not rely on one or the other. In practice, even when you're at max heat you're still doing a bit less damage than you otherwise would have done in 4U. It's not gamebreakingly bad, but it's a senseless nerf to an already criminally underplayed weapon.

Also while every shot type works best with guild, there's a "bestish" style for each shot type.
  • Striker can't use slams. Like, at all. So Normal's out, Long can manage, but it's practically made for Wide gunlances.
  • Arial loses quick reload, so Wide gunlances are out. The main feature is air slams, which are stylish as hell to land. Again, Long can get by but Normal gunlances will love slamming into a full burst from the air constantly.
  • Adept loses quick reload and slams outside of perfect dodges, so Wide and Normal suffer a bit but it's loving heaven for Long gunlances

Wrist Watch fucked around with this message at Jul 14, 2016 around 21:33

Kiggles
Dec 30, 2007


Wrist Watch posted:

In practice, even when you're at max heat you're still doing a bit less damage than you otherwise would have done in 4U.
This isn't actually true. In terms of absolute DPS over long persiods, yes, but at red heat you will roughly deal around 2% more damage than you would have PER HIT compared to 4U. Sometimes more. Realistically it will probably mean near identical damage output, thanks to rounding.

Still, given managing a resource influences opportunities, and that it takes a while to get up to red, yeah, Gunlance absolutely needs more time to deal damage over the course of a hunt, and screw ups are EXTREMELY punishing. The latter is probably the worst of it, but the gauge generally is going to influence the playstyle, so longtime fans may be discouraged. If you just like a big stick that blows poo poo up, or playing a slow pace weapon that is more about letting things come to you than constantly chasing them down, then there isn't really anything wrong with GL as is. Could use a little more damage, but it won't feel anemic compared to what you're used to... at red heat.

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010


Your Computer posted:

So it turns out the armor and the weapons I want the most in MHGen all come from Gammoth. Can't wait to farm him for weeks in the name of fashion

But I mean, look at this fancy thing (it's a lance):


lucky for you gammoth is a (literal) gigantic chump

Meldonox
Jan 13, 2006

Hey, are you listening to a word I'm saying?


I'm over on hours for this pay period so I get to take a half day on Friday. With any luck my copy of the game will show up early in the day. Hail Satan.

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

Life. Love. Lowry.


Yesterday was a really bad time to find out that my L button doesn't work even after opening up the 3DS. Looks like I gotta wait until I can get a new system to play this. Was looking forward to changing it up and going bow instead of DS

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy

Lessail posted:

Yesterday was a really bad time to find out that my L button doesn't work even after opening up the 3DS. Looks like I gotta wait until I can get a new system to play this. Was looking forward to changing it up and going bow instead of DS
You could probably get around that using the on screen dpad widgit if it's still around

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010



Fun Shoe

I was planning to go digital on this one but man that box art is cool. Was the ~12k block size for this game confirmed?

Wrist Watch
Apr 19, 2011

What?



Lipstick Apathy

I was thinking of trying some bowing in 4U so I'd have more of a feel for it in Gen, but needed a single diablos hardhorn to upgrade my seregios bow to a usable level for g rank. I've done like ten hunts, breaking the horns each time and haven't turned up a single one. On the upside, I've become quite good at smacking diablos in the face and then rolling through its charges with evade +2.

Can't wait to get trolled by the desire sensor all over again in Generations!

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008


Yams Fan

When does this go live on the eShop? Tomorrow night at midnight EST is what I'm hoping

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy

Nobody seems to know for sure. I doubt it though knowing Nintendo.

LightningKimba
Nov 5, 2010

Unleashing my best...

LUMINARY UPPERCUT!!

Dr Snofeld posted:

If I understand the Gaijinhunter video correctly, there's a visual cue for guard points on Charge Blade now

This is technically not true - In Generations, the effect is much more pronounced. In 4, the guard point visual was a little spark, which I guess some people never noticed?

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> propitiate the dread god arengee

Pillbug

Oh my god you can charge aerial hammer midair???? Are you serious with me that's amazing

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009



Rascyc posted:

Nobody seems to know for sure. I doubt it though knowing Nintendo.

nah midnight est sounds plausible, nintendo's definitely done it before

it'd be nice if they did preloading for mhg though

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

So I give this all about equal odds of either going super well or, uh, gettin' us all killed. Messily.

So a couple of prayers from you guys wouldn't hurt, yeah?


Lemming posted:

When does this go live on the eShop? Tomorrow night at midnight EST is what I'm hoping

If it's not midnight, it'll be closer to noon on Friday.

For my part I'm going to need to swing by my local store on Friday and pick it up, THEN I get to bash monsters.

Rainuwastaken
Oct 30, 2012

Another blue ribbon for Hecarim.


Ciaphas posted:

Oh my god you can charge aerial hammer midair???? Are you serious with me that's amazing

Yes but if you press A in midair you'll hit the monster so hard you bounce off and can hit them AGAIN.

Ojetor
Aug 4, 2010

Return of the Sensei



Brother Entropy posted:

nah midnight est sounds plausible, nintendo's definitely done it before

it'd be nice if they did preloading for mhg though

They've never done it for a third party game, AFAIK.

MH4U didn't get a midnight release on the eShop even though Majora's Mask 3DS released the exact same day and did get a midnight release. I was so disappointed that night.

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009



Ojetor posted:

They've never done it for a third party game, AFAIK.

MH4U didn't get a midnight release on the eShop even though Majora's Mask 3DS released the exact same day and did get a midnight release. I was so disappointed that night.

oh yeah good point, hadn't thought about it being third-party

well that kinda blows, i work on weekends so i gotta get all the playing in i can on friday

Electric Lady
Mar 21, 2010

To be victorious
you must find glory
in the little things


My order shipped....and there's a fulfillment center close to where I live, so I might get it tomorrow!


Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh I just watched the video of all the armor sets and they're all so good. I'm so glad the skull visage is back.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> propitiate the dread god arengee

Pillbug

Rainuwastaken posted:

Yes but if you press A in midair you'll hit the monster so hard you bounce off and can hit them AGAIN.

Ok yeah think I'm just gonna have to sit down for several hours this weekend with popcorn and the gaijinhunter videos

Tormented
Jan 22, 2004

"And the goat shall bear upon itself all their iniquities unto a solitary place..."

Is there any place to get pre-order a digital download copy?

I'm not seeing a pre-order button in the nintendo shop.

Neo_Crimson
Aug 15, 2011

"Is that your final dandy?"

Tormented posted:

Is there any place to get pre-order a digital download copy?

I'm not seeing a pre-order button in the nintendo shop.

The 3DS e-shop doesn't do pre-orders because Nintendo.

The Worst Bear
Jul 25, 2012

Do I look like a reasonable man to you, or a peppermint nightmare?

Neo_Crimson posted:

The 3DS e-shop doesn't do pre-orders because Nintendo.
So what's the apologist reasoning for that one? You'd think they'd want less strain on their servers. Whining aside though, another few hours will be a short time to wait for a game I never thought I'd see.

thorsilver
Feb 20, 2005

You have never
been at my show
You haven't seen before
how looks the trumpet



Kiggles posted:

Still, given managing a resource influences opportunities, and that it takes a while to get up to red, yeah, Gunlance absolutely needs more time to deal damage over the course of a hunt, and screw ups are EXTREMELY punishing. The latter is probably the worst of it, but the gauge generally is going to influence the playstyle, so longtime fans may be discouraged.

Yeah this is a really good summary. Gunlance now requires a bunch more finicky upkeep in order to do basically the same damage as before -- and if you gently caress up, which is easy to do, hello 15% damage decrease for two entire minutes.

As someone who loved gunlance to death in 4U playing GL in MHX was pretty disappointing, especially when previously underpowered weapons (SnS and LS in particular) got buffed back to awesomeness so I was expecting good things.

quote:

If you just like a big stick that blows poo poo up, or playing a slow pace weapon that is more about letting things come to you than constantly chasing them down, then there isn't really anything wrong with GL as is. Could use a little more damage, but it won't feel anemic compared to what you're used to... at red heat.

To be fair though, Rocket Dash helps mobility a lot since it charges pretty fast. Useful for chasing monsters down or getting the hell out of dodge.

'Could use a little more damage' is an understatement IMO -- the whole heat gauge system needs a drastic overhaul. The devs were acknowledging before release that GL was underused, but I still saw a fair few in 4U -- in my experience the weapon may as well not exist in MHX multiplayer.

Tormented
Jan 22, 2004

"And the goat shall bear upon itself all their iniquities unto a solitary place..."

Neo_Crimson posted:

The 3DS e-shop doesn't do pre-orders because Nintendo.

So all the preorders are physical? That's really dumb! Thanks Nintendo!

Wrist Watch
Apr 19, 2011

What?



Lipstick Apathy

In a video someone posted last thread, someone was using aerial greatsword and the initial jump seemed to be doing a slash during the initial hop onto the monster before they actually started air charging. Does aerial style actually do that or are they somehow attacking during their initial jump?

Minrad
Sep 26, 2007

I will never forget your smiles. I feel like I saved the world today. Just feeling like that is enough for me.



nintendo is trying to save you from the fiscal irresponsibility of pre-ordering games

thank u mr iwata's ghost

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007

Let me sing you a song


Taco Defender

How do I hook the 3ds up to a proxy to Australia so I can play early?

AttackBacon
Nov 19, 2010

This pleases me greatly!


Wrist Watch posted:

In a video someone posted last thread, someone was using aerial greatsword and the initial jump seemed to be doing a slash during the initial hop onto the monster before they actually started air charging. Does aerial style actually do that or are they somehow attacking during their initial jump?

It was probably the draw attack, which for Aerial GS is a leaping slash that does mounting damage. As far as I know there is no way to attack during the initial Aerial hop for any weapon, you have to trigger the second jump. There are also no attack you can execute during a jump (with Aerial GS) before you begin a charge, the one hit, charged or no, is all you get.

The Aquabot
Sep 25, 2004



Tenzarin posted:

How do I hook the 3ds up to a proxy to Australia so I can play early?

You can't, unfortunately us kiwis and aussies are getting the game on Saturday the 16th.

The Aquabot fucked around with this message at Jul 14, 2016 around 05:59

HOTLANTA MAN
Jul 4, 2010

Justice has prevailed.


Lipstick Apathy

I hope switch axe is still underrated and fly as hell.

What up SwagAxe Nation

Minrad
Sep 26, 2007

I will never forget your smiles. I feel like I saved the world today. Just feeling like that is enough for me.



HOTLANTA MAN posted:

I hope switch axe is still underrated and fly as hell.

What up SwagAxe Nation

you get to smash x instead of x, a, x, a, to do the overhead chops with sword now

Golden Goat
Aug 2, 2012



Mortimer posted:

for this game? Why?

As a bad excuse to get a N3DS and two copies of MHG and play with the BF.

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Intoluene
Jul 6, 2011

Activating self-destruct sequence!


HOTLANTA MAN posted:

I hope switch axe is still underrated and fly as hell.

What up SwagAxe Nation

Aerial swaxe is my jam.

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