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korusan posted:So apparently both Chris Pine and the two guys who are supposedly writing the fourth of these have expressed interest in an old fashioned beam-down-to-the-planet-and-see-what's-going-on. These are the guys who were originally writing Star Trek 3 before it became Beyond, and they said there may not even been a villain. Does anyone think the studio would allow it? I don't know, let's see what Marvel does first.
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Imagine a Star Trek film without a Big Bad Man to stop. What a concept!
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I still want a Star Trek film where they have a sport tournament to determine which group the new planet joins and that's the entire movie.
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Oct 1, 2016 15:46
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MonsieurChoc posted:I still want a Star Trek film where they have a sport tournament to determine which group the new planet joins and that's the entire movie. Take Me Out to the Holosuite + Journey to Babel?
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Oct 1, 2016 15:51
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An Anbo Jitsu tournament?
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Oct 1, 2016 15:52
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It is after all, the ultimate evolution of the martial arts.
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It'd be a multi-sport event. Anbo-Jyutsu, Parisses Squares, Springball, and Velocity would all be part of it. Plus Klingon forehead boxing and bat'leth fighting (but Kahless help you if you try to use an illegal t'gha maneuver!)
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Oct 2, 2016 13:43
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Sounds good to me. 
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Oct 2, 2016 16:13
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Lady Gaga owes that woman royalties.
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Y'know, Michael Giachinno really should do a version of the classic Star Trek fight music. Da-da-DAAAAH-DAAAAH-DAAAAH-DAAAAH-DAAAAH-daaa-dada-daaah-dada-daaaah-dah!
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Payndz posted:Y'know, Michael Giachinno really should do a version of the classic Star Trek fight music. Da-da-DAAAAH-DAAAAH-DAAAAH-DAAAAH-DAAAAH-daaa-dada-daaah-dada-daaaah-dah! He briefly quotes it when Kirk is running away from the giant monster on the ice planet in '09.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:25
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There's a taste of Amok time, when Spock beams down to earth when it's time to gently caress up Khan.MA-Horus posted:It's such a good scene though. When people say that Shatner can't act, I point to THAT scene, and the Starship Porn from TMP, when you can see the reflection of the Enterprise in the window and there's more emotion on his face in that ONE goddamn scene than in all of Nemesis. Except for Troi crying. Man, who says Shatner can't act in a post-Boston Legal world?
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Oct 6, 2016 12:06
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Shatner proved his acting talent 44 years ago. He's earned the right to ham it up whenever he wants.
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Shatner is a theatrical actor. This does mean sometimes he dials it up to 11 and goes over the top, and sometimes it works better if a director can ratchet him down (famously, his delivery of "here it comes" in Star Trek II was achieved by Meyer going for take after take until finally Shatner was kinda exhausted.) On the other hand sometimes you want the theatricality.
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well why not posted:Man, who says Shatner can't act in a post-Boston Legal world? I doubt very many people outside of the US have actually seen Boston Legal. I'm not even sure it was broadcast here in the UK!
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Oct 9, 2016 20:54
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It's a shame because Boston Legal is fantastic. I mean, look at my username.
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It got broadcast in Australia, at like 11pm on a Monday Night. It was in a block with Always Sunny and another comedy show - I can't recall which. I think it eventually got moved to a better timeslot. What a fun show.
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I absolutely loved Beyond but it bothered me a little that they magically changed clothes in the escape pods. Was that ever actually explained in the movie?
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I was chatting with my bro the other day about how Kirk seemed to have a hilarious deathwish in this movie, and the way he seemed weirdly unaffected by the death of most of his crew, and it occurred to me that his character in Beyond reads pretty well as a satire on JJ He doesn't really wanna be the captain of the Enterprise (the boss of Star Trek) anymore but here he is doing the mission anyway, and oh would you look at that, he drove the thing into the darn ground. Still, Simon Pegg and the rest of the crew get the old boy through despite his repeated efforts to get himself killed, and somehow miraculously they're making another one
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Rubiks Pubes posted:I absolutely loved Beyond but it bothered me a little that they magically changed clothes in the escape pods. Was that ever actually explained in the movie? Presumably the escape pods had survival gear in them, including jackets. Later, on the Franklin, they just raid the closets full of 100-year-old uniforms to replace their torn/stained stuff.
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I re-watched this last night and noticed a nice little call back to the original series that I missed before: In the very beginning, when the tiny aliens attack Kirk. The first thing he does to try to get the guy off him is the classic double axe-handle swing. I don't know how I missed that. It's so drat obvious.
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Rubiks Pubes posted:I absolutely loved Beyond but it bothered me a little that they magically changed clothes in the escape pods. Was that ever actually explained in the movie? In '09 Trek when Spock kicks Kirk off the ship he lands on the ice planet and changes into cold weather gear. Did that bother you as well?
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Oct 21, 2016 01:17
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Rhyno posted:In '09 Trek when Spock kicks Kirk off the ship he lands on the ice planet and changes into cold weather gear. Did that bother you as well? It's been a while since I saw it, but it probably did at the time
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So we're never going to bring up the idea that getting a 100 year old bicycle that's been sitting out in the elements to work is a real pain in the rear end, but somehow a starship just needs a little WD40 and we're golden?
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Well a bicycle doesn't have an airtight shell around it.
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I finally saw Beyond last night and the thing that bothered me was, if Krall was the captain of the Franklin, why was Jayla living in it/able to set up holo-camouflage on it? I mean, I'm assuming Krall knows/remembers where the Franklin crashed, so when Jayla started messing with it he'd be all 'gently caress no' about it... ?
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Oct 21, 2016 17:39
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The technology they had was better than the Franklin so it didn't really matter if he knew she had it.
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WarLocke posted:I finally saw Beyond last night and the thing that bothered me was, if Krall was the captain of the Franklin, why was Jayla living in it/able to set up holo-camouflage on it? The one thing that made Kirk a better captain than Krall in the end was that Kirk at least remembered where he crashed his drat ship
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AlternateAccount posted:So we're never going to bring up the idea that getting a 100 year old bicycle that's been sitting out in the elements to work is a real pain in the rear end, but somehow a starship just needs a little WD40 and we're golden? We're talking about a starship that was built before they had magical shields. They built those fuckers to last.
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They handwaved it away by saying Jaylah had fixed it up over the years.
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WarLocke posted:I finally saw Beyond last night and the thing that bothered me was, if Krall was the captain of the Franklin, why was Jayla living in it/able to set up holo-camouflage on it? I got the impression that Jaylah didn't show up and move in until much later, after he'd gotten all Kralled out and fixated upon his poorly-defined but nevertheless maniacal alt-right scheme to the exclusion of caring where his old ship had gone.
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Watching it after getting it and, while I enjoyed it in the theater, it seems to have worked better this time. Although I did do a spit take with the blinking "This is what Trump voters really believe" text appearing whenever Krall talked.
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Atarask posted:Watching it after getting it and, while I enjoyed it in the theater, it seems to have worked better this time. A multicultural, multiethnic group - taking its power precisely from diversity plus coherence - that quickly accepts strangers, including of different ethnicities - whose stated aims are peaceful exploration and space socialism - and whose first option is always diplomacy meets A relict of the past: - somebody who believes peace and tolerance are lies - war against all outsiders is necessary - after having lived in a bubble for ages - and is lost in fading memories of a past - parasitically keeping itself alive by feeding on society - that turns out to be the real enemy - (instead of, as initially hinted at, the enemy being an Other, from a different race) - and destroys innocent lives, as well as the utopian shining ivory tower symbol of the liberal society, with literally drone fighters - and wishes to unleash even more extreme, seemingly ancient and barbaric weapons of nondiscriminatory mass destruction It's the most extreme progressive propaganda I've seen in, basically, ever. I loved it. It made zero sense and I had no idea what was going on for 50% of the time, but I loved it. It's even reinforcing the "ethnic diversity" component just by making the Trump character black. In the future, the Overton window has shifted so that the old boundaries of earth's past - e.g., those of race - look silly, but some now treat species boundaries in the same way.
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Inspired by the talk about Star Trek III (The Search For Spock, 1984, in case there's any confusion) on the last page, especially since I get a sense that it's just a given nowadays that it's one of the weaker Trek flicks: I just wanna say I adore Star Trek III and I think my appreciation for it has increased quite a bit over the years. I mean, look at that. Those people are stranded fugitives who just barely escaped a brush with foreign terrorists with their lives all the while trashing their reputations and careers in the process. And they're smiling and laughing. They've ruined their lives but it doesn't matter one bit because they've saved their souls. If the movie just doesn't work for you on a technical level, that's fair and I don't suppose I can dissuade you. For those that are mostly irritated how it reverses or cheapens Spock's death in Star Trek II, it might help to view Spock's appearance at the end of Trek III less literally, like a metaphor or a ghost. Trek II actually sets the stage for Trek III pretty nicely, I think, when Kirk remarks how he "must return to this place (the Genesis Planet) again". In Trek III when there are so many obstacles in the way of doing so, it'd be so easy to shrug defeatedly, "oh well that's life I guess." No. gently caress that. This is the most important thing in the world to you and it may seem crazy but goddammit it's the truth and ain't nothing gonna stop you 'cause you're not just gonna sell out your soul like that. The movie's about those things you have to do, even if it doesn't make sense to others or sometimes even yourself, but you just have to do it because otherwise life is hollow and empty and you're just a shell of a person no matter how nice things may seem on the outside. I think it's a beautiful story.
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I totally get that. It reminds me of my first fall after college when I faced the choice to move to a far away city or lose the girl I loved. I knew I could regret it if I did it, but I knew I would definitely regret it and always second-guess myself if I didn't. It didn't work out the way I planned and hoped, but it was a seminal moment in my life, and it brought me where I am today, which is very good indeed despite what I went through back then. I wouldn't change a thing.
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nvm figured it out
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:I totally get that. It reminds me of my first fall after college when I faced the choice to move to a far away city or lose the girl I loved. I knew I could regret it if I did it, but I knew I would definitely regret it and always second-guess myself if I didn't. Have you always had that screen name? It's hilarious. On Star Trek III, I think even its plot holes serve the movie's theme. Whether by design or happy accident, that the Vulcan katra and rituals surrounding it don't make sense when put under scrutiny just makes it all the more meaningful that the characters go for it anyway.
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No, I changed my name a month or two before the election and I feel like a genius now, haha. For a little bit there I thought I night have jumped the gun.
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