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Big Tone also did Easy E's podcast, so that's probably a sign of how AEW feel.
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Jul 31, 2020 14:19
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BISCHOFF SOLD FOR THE ORANGE!
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Jul 31, 2020 14:33
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Lid posted:Arzy was right is the funny thing God drat it, he was.
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Gaz-L posted:Big Tone also did Easy E's podcast, so that's probably a sign of how AEW feel. which they crossposted to the AEW youtube channel
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Jul 31, 2020 15:35
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I’m only ok with this if he comes out to Eric Bischoff, Karate Man
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I thought it was a funny post
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A Real Horse posted:I’m only ok with this if he comes out to Eric Bischoff, Karate Man I would like if he comes out acting like an airplane and treating Jericho like he's Hollywood Hogan. As much as I hate Bischoff, if they turned the rest of the Inner Circle (minus Hager) on Jericho I'd love if that were just Jericho's new gimmick and Bischoff was his lackey. Hager would be Vincent.
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Jul 31, 2020 18:45
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Jul 31, 2020 18:57
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Bischoff coming in to sell for Jericho 1-2 times is brilliant. Bischoff coming in for a regular role would not be something I'm interested in.
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Jul 31, 2020 19:02
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I hope someone says "three minutes"
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Jul 31, 2020 19:05
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I Before E posted:I hope someone says "three minutes" Lmfao but also 
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Jul 31, 2020 19:07
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Hoping that Schiavone displays open contempt for Bischoff the entire segment.
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Jul 31, 2020 19:17
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Theres optics at play here - AEW had bucked the label of being The Next TNA by being good, by knowing what it was and not seemingly just a jettison point for WWE cast offs but for those of merit and who were cool. It was favourably compared to the glory time of WCW. Now in back to back weeks we have Zack Ryder, the worse Funkadactyl who hasn't worked in four years, and Eric Bischoff. That screams head first towards TNA comparisons with merit. Whether it will work out or not is still to be decided but that its a self inflicted risk and with no clear great upside even if successful is a worry.
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Jul 31, 2020 19:18
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Lid posted:Theres optics at play here - AEW had bucked the label of being The Next TNA by being good, by knowing what it was and not seemingly just a jettison point for WWE cast offs but for those of merit and who were cool. It was favourably compared to the glory time of WCW. TNA would have been great if the booking made sense, hth.
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The people who were going to regard AEW as "The Next TNA" just for using people who maybe, possibly were at some point in their career, working for the biggest wrestling company in the world are impossible to please and AEW shouldn't care about their opinions. The kind of people who would unironically compared AEW to TNA, Tony Khan to Dixie Carter, etc. etc. aren't the kind of people you're going to turn into AEW fans. They're just people who look for any reason to look down on anything that's not WWE. And to go further, calling people "WWE Castoffs" is really dehumanizing and stupid in the first place and boils somebody down to the simple idea that their entire career is defined by the fact that they Weren't Good Enough To Make It In The Big Leagues. Matt Cardona got over on his own, spent the next nine years being punished for it, then got cut in the midst of a pandemic so Vince could save a few bucks. Calling him a castoff for that is just....frickin' mean.
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Lid posted:Theres optics at play here - AEW had bucked the label of being The Next TNA by being good, by knowing what it was and not seemingly just a jettison point for WWE cast offs but for those of merit and who were cool. It was favourably compared to the glory time of WCW. I don't think "New TNA" is something AEW really has to concern themselves with. I mean, you're right. If TNA debuted Cameron there'd be a new round of "lolTNA" posts. But like that's just a thing TNA build up over time and nothing can really derail it now but also you don't just become it by debuting a couple of bad/mediocre retreads. AEW will have to work to become bad enough for lolAEW. I mean, I think there's a separate conversation to be had for what talent AEW pushes and what they don't and like if maybe its not a great idea to put Mox over MJF or FTR as the next tag champs. But I don't think that's this.
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Jul 31, 2020 19:25
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Lid posted:Theres optics at play here - AEW had bucked the label of being The Next TNA by being good, by knowing what it was and not seemingly just a jettison point for WWE cast offs but for those of merit and who were cool. It was favourably compared to the glory time of WCW. The clear upside is you hire people for roles they are good at. If TNA were good, no one would have cared that they signed WWE people. People loved Christian and didn't mind Team 3D at first. Gail Kim was a good pick up even though they didn't have a good role for her yet. They were logical signings. When they signed EVERYONE and put them over their own guys, it was stupid. And after TNA has just signed a bunch of WWE cast offs you really don't risk looking bad for signing a couple.
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Lid posted:Theres optics at play here - AEW had bucked the label of being The Next TNA by being good, by knowing what it was and not seemingly just a jettison point for WWE cast offs but for those of merit and who were cool. It was favourably compared to the glory time of WCW. "there's optics at play" is a phrase that here means "I have decided this looks bad" Cameron sucks but isn't signed. Cardona is fine and has mostly only looked bad because he's been booked bad. The one thing Bischoff is good at is talking into a microphone. And he's not signed either. If this is enough to cause TNA comparisons, you were looking for reasons to bail.
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Lamuella posted:
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One thing I will say is Tony Khan said at some point they're going to have to start cutting people they don't use. Now is Matt Cardona going to bring in more money than the person you will eventually cut to to bring him in? No idea.
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Nyla's gonna murder Cameron after she loses their tag match and we'll never see her again and a whole lot of people would've wasted a whole lot of energy being Mad Online about Cameron.
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Jul 31, 2020 21:44
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i can't believe aew is giving bischoff the book
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JUNGLE BOY posted:i can't believe aew is giving bischoff the book They're gonna make Arn sell for the bird now.
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Jul 31, 2020 21:52
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And that book? You guessed it, a signed copy of The Death of WCW
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There's a weird trend in AEW posting to immediately start catastrophizing about any underwhelming hire or disappointing finish, or even in this case a guy coming in for a one off guest spot. I get it if WWE, or life in general, has conditioned people to think that anything good is doomed, but Bischoff coming in for one night to play a role in one segment is not the second coming of Immortal.
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Ryder's one thing but I don't think people are crazy to be wondering what the gently caress they're doing bringing in Cameron in 2020, even for a one off.
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Strawberry Panda posted:One thing I will say is Tony Khan said at some point they're going to have to start cutting people they don't use. the fact that he said the hopefully obvious thing about not being able to employ every single person forever doesn't mean that he's hiring people he's going to fire in a month
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Aphrodite posted:Ryder's one thing but I don't think people are crazy to be wondering what the gently caress they're doing bringing in Cameron in 2020, even for a one off. i legitimately think it's a make-up booking for Effy's Big Gay Brunch not happening
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Alaois posted:i legitimately think it's a make-up booking for Effy's Big Gay Brunch not happening This combined with the fact I was not watching wrestling when she had her WWE run plants me firmly in the “this will probably be fine” camp.
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Ariane is probably friends with Brandi from developmental and people are just making a mountain of a molehill.
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Yeah, I'm really assuming it's them getting a friend a paycheck because they've been doing that a bit.
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Really the entire Dynamite made me depressed, between all of the WWE castoffs (Luchasaurus, Jericho, Hager, Ross, Tazz, Cody, Arn, the Revival, Matt Hardy, Ambrose, Kris Logan, Kenny Omega, Colt Cabana, Luke Harper, Dasha, Vickie, Cameron, Zack Ryder) and the TNA castoffs (Generation Me, Tazz, LAX, Diamante, Matt Hardy, Brian Cage, Tony Schiavone, Ricky Starks probably I didn't check) and to say nothing of the PWG and Lucha Underground castoffs littering the show, to bring in a AWA/WCW/TNA/Matrats castoff for a one-off like Bischoff just shows how all AEW is doing is recycling people who more successful companies rejected. This is also why the Fast and Furious films started sucking after the first one, wasting all their time bringing in castoffs from WWE and Missy Elliott remixes and the Computer Wore Tennis Shoes. Pathetic. Now if AEW brought in Missy Elliott or a computer that wore tennis shoes, I might give Dynamite another chance.
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Cameron being signed is very funny, so I'm very happy about it. There needs to be more funny hires. Hire like, idk, one of the Ascension but not the other. Sign Bull Dempsy. Have Damien Sandow wrestle Cody.
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