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Pylons posted:Ironman where a chickenshit heel gets one pin and then runs around the ring the whole rest of the time. Heel hits opponent with chair, sacrificing a fall by DQ, but then is able to rack up multiple pinfalls on his now-incapacitated opponent.
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Answers Me posted:Heel hits opponent with chair, sacrificing a fall by DQ, but then is able to rack up multiple pinfalls on his now-incapacitated opponent. Brock did this in his match with Kurt. Any other strategy has seemed super dumb ever since, especially in the NXT 4 way since 4 ways are no dq
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If an ironman's no DQ, it's perfect for the old KO style. Get one fall, roll out of the ring, and head to catering. Lock yourself in the shitter. Just do everything in your power to avoid entertaining anyone.
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Sep 3, 2020 10:22
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Fentry posted:Brock did this in his match with Kurt. Any other strategy has seemed super dumb ever since, especially in the NXT 4 way since 4 ways are no dq PAC sort of did this with Omega but only really landed one fall off the back of it
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Sep 3, 2020 10:25
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Answers Me posted:Heel hits opponent with chair, sacrificing a fall by DQ, but then is able to rack up multiple pinfalls on his now-incapacitated opponent. This literally happened in the Johnny Mundo/Prince Puma All Night Long match in LU. Which is also one of the best Iron Man matches ever, partly because they told an actual story. Dastardly heel Johnny used the chair early on to rack up a bunch of cheap pins, so most of the match is built around valiant babyface Ricochet making a desperate comeback, which gets the crowd into an absolute frenzy*, and it's all crazy action and they aren't loving around in chinlocks trying to kill time like most Iron Man matches. It's well worth going out of your way to see. *funny what happens when you actually book Ricochet well, he gets over and feels like the biggest star on the show. But what do I know
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Benne posted:This literally happened in the Johnny Mundo/Prince Puma All Night Long match in LU. Wasn't there a section in that where Johnny just went and partied with the band to run down the clock?
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Benne posted:This literally happened in the Johnny Mundo/Prince Puma All Night Long match in LU. Mundo actually used a (fake) crowbar, which made it look even more vicious than a chair since we're not really used to seeing that in wrestling
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the most recent use of that trope I remember was Gargano/Cole. I remember Gargano looking like a loving geek losing anyway
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Lamuella posted:Wasn't there a section in that where Johnny just went and partied with the band to run down the clock? Yep. I miss the Worldwide Underground, they were such a bunch of dickbags.
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I can't wait for DDT to parody it by having a 4-way Falls Count Anywhere 3 hour Ironman match where they pretend to scramble to have another show booked because all the wrestlers have left the arena and are chasing each other in cars to desolate locations and we occasionally cut back to them in a Forrest, riding a train, on top of a building, while the last pinfall takes place in the middle of the ring and it turns out there's a four-way tie and everyone just shrugs
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There will be at least one flashback sequence, preferably with a second flashback sequence nested inside it
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RealFoxy posted:I can't wait for DDT to parody it by having a 4-way Falls Count Anywhere 3 hour Ironman match where they pretend to scramble to have another show booked because all the wrestlers have left the arena and are chasing each other in cars to desolate locations and we occasionally cut back to them in a Forrest, riding a train, on top of a building, while the last pinfall takes place in the middle of the ring and it turns out there's a four-way tie and everyone just shrugs I want this desperately to happen. 
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Nut Bunnies posted:They've only done like three 3SOH matches that I can think of. Vince probably forgot it existed. Five matches.  Is this the worst gimmick match of them all? I honestly don't even remember any of these matches aside from the first one. The gimmicks seem kind of random. You know who will win the second match. Three of them also went 40 minutes, which is probably way too long for any match where you know it is not going to end until the third fall.
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 Possible leaked G1 lineup? Kota Ibushi EVIL Jay White Hiromu Takahashi Shingo Takagi Tomohiro Ishii Hirooki Goto Will Ospreay Taichi (X) Tetsuya Naito Kazuchika Okada SANADA Minoru Suzuki KENTA Hiroshi Tanahashi Zack Sabre Jr YOSHI-HASHI(I believe) Toru Yano Taiji Ishimori Pylons fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Sep 4, 2020 |
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Astro7x posted:Five matches. Going by star ratings: Triple H vs. Austin: 4 3/4 Triple H vs. HBK: 2 Triple H vs. Orton: 2 3/4 Cena vs. Ryback: 3 1/4 Gargano vs. Cole: 4 The only ones I can remember were Triple H/Austin and Gargano/Cole, and I hated Gargano/Cole, so I think you're on to something. Though I think the strap match (the touch-the-corners variation) is a bad stip, at least in modern day.
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I was at the Triple H vs HBK one and I do remember HBK doing and elbow drop off the ladder onto HHH through a table. Can't remember if HHH moved though.
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Astro7x posted:Is this the worst gimmick match of them all? I honestly don't even remember any of these matches aside from the first one. The gimmicks seem kind of random. You know who will win the second match. Three of them also went 40 minutes, which is probably way too long for any match where you know it is not going to end until the third fall. I struggle to think of anything much worse than a blindfold match. Sure, it makes sense within the context of the story but wrestlers can't wrestler when they can't see, making it a dumb story to tell.
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forkboy84 posted:I struggle to think of anything much worse than a blindfold match. Sure, it makes sense within the context of the story but wrestlers can't wrestler when they can't see, making it a dumb story to tell. Scaffold match as while a Blindfold match is boring scaffold is boring as nobody wants to take major bumps and also extremely dangerous as well
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Scaffold match as while a Blindfold match is boring scaffold is boring as nobody wants to take major bumps and also extremely dangerous as well Yeah but at least New Jack tries to commit murder in that one scaffold match
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A scaffold match hurt Jim Cornette to the point where I think he still has knee pain from it today.
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rare Magic card l00k posted:A scaffold match hurt Jim Cornette to the point where I think he still has knee pain from it today. Okay, you've convinced me. Scaffold matches are good.
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Liquid Communism posted:If an ironman's no DQ, it's perfect for the old KO style. Get one fall, roll out of the ring, and head to catering. Lock yourself in the shitter. Sounds like Baron Corbin style.
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CVagts posted:Going by star ratings: was HHH/HBK the one where it seemed like they'd made a bet backstage over who could blade quicker and/or deeper
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Still 7 months away obviously so it's by no means set in stone, but Per Dave, WWE is currently considering either Drew/Brock (again) or Orton/Edge (again) for the WWE title match at Mania
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A singular lone voice carried on the wind chanting same old poo poo
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Chris James 2 posted:Still 7 months away obviously so it's by no means set in stone, but And they say WWE can't do long term storytelling
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WWE's storytelling can only be noticed via carbon dating.
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fun fact the first ever Edge and Randy Orton singles match occurred on the 10th of May 2004. SIXTEEN YEARS. That's longer than double than off the top of my head Hogan v Warrior.
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Lid posted:fun fact the first ever Edge and Randy Orton singles match occurred on the 10th of May 2004. SIXTEEN YEARS. That's longer than double than off the top of my head Hogan v Warrior. That's longer ago than the first ever match between Satoshi Kojima & Minoru Suzuki (2006 Champion Carnival) despite them both being in their 50s.
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Randy Orton debuted on the main roster in April 2002. He's been a featured full-time member for 18 years and counting, and could very well be champion again in either 2020 or 2021. Hulk Hogan won his first title in January 1984. In the years since then, we saw Hogan's peak run, Hogan becoming a washed-up joke, Hogan resurrecting his career in WCW, Hogan becoming a washed-up joke again, and Hogan having a nostalgia-fueled classic with Rock in 2002. That all happened over an 18-year span, Randy Orton's entire career length. Nothing loving changes in this company anymore.
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Gonna be the most fitting modern WWE thing ever if Orton ends up breaking WWE's version of Flair's record
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forkboy84 posted:That's longer ago than the first ever match between Satoshi Kojima & Minoru Suzuki (2006 Champion Carnival) despite them both being in their 50s. As its meant to be next years main event it will be 17 years, which is the same amount of time since the first ever singles match of Minoru Suzuki and Yuji Nagata. Edit: look at this ancient card https://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=15326 four hall of famers (should be five, put in Koji Kanemoto already) and none were in the main event Lid fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Sep 4, 2020 |
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If you’ve been watching Roman Reigns since his debut in The Shield you’ve been watching him for a longer time than the entire run of Nitro.
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Gonna be the most fitting modern WWE thing ever if Orton ends up breaking WWE's version of Flair's record He's only three away from 16!
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I was strangely upset with Cena broke The Rock's record of 7 championship reigns (now 8 after that dumbfuck drop from CM Punk for twice in a lifetime) and I just checked and now it's been surpassed by Triple H and Orton too.
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Chris James 2 posted:Still 7 months away obviously so it's by no means set in stone, but I'm so loving tired. This is a company that employs some of the greatest wrestlers in the entire world, and they use them so badly that they can't even book a main event for their biggest show because nobody is worth anything.
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Grem posted:Sounds like Baron Corbin style. Corbin does it because he can't manage to entertain anyone and has all the charisma of a 45 year old session bassist. KO was doing it as intentional heeling.
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Pylons posted:
yoooooo Taiji Ishimori!? gently caress YES Wonder who the X is?
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DLC Inc posted:Wonder who the X is? Is Daisuke Sekimoto booked in any of the other tournaments that are going on over the next month?
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Price Check posted:Is Daisuke Sekimoto booked in any of the other tournaments that are going on over the next month?
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