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yeah i got them from pwinsider so dont blame me. blame mike johnson.
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Just read a rumor that Neville asked for his release. Any insight?
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Oct 11, 2017 03:46
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Fumaofthelake posted:Just read a rumor that Neville asked for his release. Any insight? There's details in the WWE Discussion thread but basically it looks like Neville was scheduled for a lumberjack match that he was gonna lose to Enzo on Monday and he walked out and they had to change the match to Kalisto instead. It seems like he's definitely very unhappy but there's no confirmation he asked for his release yet.
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Oct 11, 2017 03:48
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I guess it seems weird that the plan all along wasn't supposed to be Kalisto winning the title, because this seems like the natural thing to have done storytelling wise.
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Oct 11, 2017 13:16
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spongeh posted:I guess it seems weird that the plan all along wasn't supposed to be Kalisto winning the title, because this seems like the natural thing to have done storytelling wise. I've seen it range from Neville was supposed to win, to oops, we had that rule where Neville can't have a title shot so I guess just have him lose, to Kalisto winning. But with WWE booking you can never be sure if those are conflicting reports or just a sequence of decisions.
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Oct 11, 2017 13:33
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Stories are reporting that the plan was to have the title change at TLC instead of on Raw before Neville walked out
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Oct 11, 2017 13:43
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I like to think most good WWE moments happen by accident. Good for Kallisto, winning before Vince could notice the change of plans.
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Oct 11, 2017 14:03
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Given WWE's history, I wouldn't be surprised if Neville was planned to lose, he left instead, so they had Kalisto win as a gesture of "See you would have totally won the belt if you showed up"
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Oct 11, 2017 14:10
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I'm almost certain that's why Tozawa got a title win after they released Aries.
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Oct 11, 2017 14:13
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Good on Neville for not being fooled into following along as they kick the can down the road over and over again as I'm sure they would've done with the title in this scenario. I wouldn't be surprised if he was getting the same speeches he saw Aries get and said gently caress this.
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Oct 11, 2017 16:14
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I think what got Kalisto the title win is the whole "if there's a substitution, the sub always wins" rule. Like how Sasha stepped in for Bayley at SummerSlam, won the belt and immediately dropped it back. So, don't get too used to Kalisto as champ.
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Oct 11, 2017 16:36
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I also really don't understand the "this is a long con to make Enzo look bad" theory. That's not how WWE teaches their "lessons." To me, this looks a whole lot like Vince wants Enzo to carry the division and they know how bad that looks to the locker room, so they're trying to walk this line where they can say "look how stupid he comes across" to try to save face while still getting what they want.
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Oct 11, 2017 16:44
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VJeff posted:I think what got Kalisto the title win is the whole "if there's a substitution, the sub always wins" rule. Like how Sasha stepped in for Bayley at SummerSlam, won the belt and immediately dropped it back. If it were just that, it didn't have to be a title match. Alexa's Summerslam match had to be a title match because it was a major PPV. This was a random rear end match on Raw. Edit: I do totally agree that Kalisto won't be winning at TLC, but they clearly did this title change as a gently caress you to Neville if these rumors of him walking out are true. Vaguido fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Oct 11, 2017 |
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Oct 11, 2017 16:53
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VJeff posted:I think what got Kalisto the title win is the whole "if there's a substitution, the sub always wins" rule. Like how Sasha stepped in for Bayley at SummerSlam, won the belt and immediately dropped it back. Worked for John Morrison!
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Oct 12, 2017 05:28
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sportsgenius86 posted:Good on Neville for not being fooled into following along as they kick the can down the road over and over again as I'm sure they would've done with the title in this scenario. same for CM Punk
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Oct 12, 2017 07:05
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What are some of the spoilers lately? does anyone know what the main event of wrestlemania will be? my guess is that finn balor will be involved, and maybe "Stone Cold". Let me know since i love to feel like I'm back-stage.
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Cavauro posted:What are some of the spoilers lately? does anyone know what the main event of wrestlemania will be? my guess is that finn balor will be involved, and maybe "Stone Cold". Let me know since i love to feel like I'm back-stage. conor mcgregor is going to face shane mcmahon in an mma match
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Oct 12, 2017 18:59
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i can just imagine them all back-stage talking about how dumb assed the fans are for thinking it's real. THe good guys and bad guys probably both have to work together on a storyline and the wrestling holds so that they both get paid at the end of the night even though neither of them is badly hurt
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Oct 12, 2017 19:01
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Billzasilver posted:I like to think most good WWE moments happen by accident. Good for Kallisto, winning before Vince could notice the change of plans. I'd be shocked if the call didn't come from Vince. DeathChicken posted:Given WWE's history, I wouldn't be surprised if Neville was planned to lose, he left instead, so they had Kalisto win as a gesture of "See you would have totally won the belt if you showed up" Sounds about right if not an outright way to mock him for leaving.
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Oct 12, 2017 19:04
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Cavauro posted:What are some of the spoilers lately? does anyone know what the main event of wrestlemania will be? my guess is that finn balor will be involved, and maybe "Stone Cold". Let me know since i love to feel like I'm back-stage. The tentative card is: Return of Vader Sister Abigail vs She-Rhyno 3MB vs Shield with all the titles on the line Multi-Diva tag match Card subject to change.
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Oct 12, 2017 19:10
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I thought vader was about to die soon, but it sounds like I got fooled by the wrestling business, as usual!
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Oct 12, 2017 19:16
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Cavauro posted:I thought vader was about to die soon, but it sounds like I got fooled by the wrestling business, as usual! No, he's fine now, it was just a mistake by an entire team of doctors who misinterpreted his lifetime of incredible abuse to his body as having shortened his heart's useful duration.
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Oct 13, 2017 02:51
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VJeff posted:Do Japanese people like Long Island? Let's try and make Zack Ryder: G1 contestant a reality here. At what point does being a WWE jobber taint someone? Juice Robinson and Trent Baretta were both WWE jobbers, and they're far more successful than if they had stayed.
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Davros1 posted:At what point does being a WWE jobber taint someone? Juice Robinson and Trent Baretta were both WWE jobbers, and they're far more successful than if they had stayed. I think it depends on how prominent a jobber someone is. Juice and Trent were guys you'd be forgiven for not even knowing were on the WWE/NXT roster. And they basically totally reinvented themselves. Wheras Ryder and Ziggler have a history of being semi-featured TV characters and will probably do cheap knock--offs of their WWE gimmicks on the indies.
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Gaz-L posted:I think it depends on how prominent a jobber someone is. Juice and Trent were guys you'd be forgiven for not even knowing were on the WWE/NXT roster. And they basically totally reinvented themselves. Wheras Ryder and Ziggler have a history of being semi-featured TV characters and will probably do cheap knock--offs of their WWE gimmicks on the indies. Ziggler I think wants to move into non-wrestling entertainment. He has been working with the Groundlings for several years and has been doing both standup and improv. I heard a couple of times that he was offered roles in things only to have the WWE tell him no (and to have John Cena do similar things around the same time). I have little doubt that at the end of this current contract he is out the door. Ryder I think could do well outside of the WWE shackles. He has proven that he can get himself over without their help and is a sound enough wrestler. The Jersey Shore gimmick is probably a little dated but I am pretty sure he can figure something out if he were given the chance. There are probably under a dozen guys in WWE that could leave and do well on the outside. That is why a lot of them just keep their heads down and collect the steady paycheck. Now the next couple of years the business is going to be very interesting. If NJPW major push in the US works out even a little coupled with WWE getting a lower TV deal you could see a lot of top talent look to other pastures.
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Oct 14, 2017 15:38
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Ziggler dated Amy Schumer for a while, so I'm surprised to hear he's actually a fan of comedy.
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Aphrodite posted:Ziggler dated Amy Schumer for a while, so I'm surprised to hear he's actually a fan of comedy.
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Pretty sure if the rumors about that sex scene are to be believed Cena was getting Dolph's sloppy seconds, because Cena pulled a Tommy Wiseau and had sex with her.
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Jiro posted:Pretty sure if the rumors about that sex scene are to be believed Cena was getting Dolph's sloppy seconds, because Cena pulled a Tommy Wiseau and had sex with her. Yeah but she's Dolph's girlfriend so he's the cuck in this scenario
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Oct 15, 2017 06:23
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Jiro posted:Pretty sure if the rumors about that sex scene are to be believed Cena was getting Dolph's sloppy seconds, because Cena pulled a Tommy Wiseau and had sex with her. work
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oatgan posted:work well I’m relieved he didn’t shoot on her 
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https://twitter.com/WWELeaksDotOrg/status/921169437385826304
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Why isn't Asuka a -2000?
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Oct 20, 2017 05:04
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Jubs posted:Why isn't Asuka a -2000? WWE. Can't ever rule out a countout or DQ By rear end-Kicking loss to get the whole "who ends the streak" thing done ASAP and not have to worry about it next year
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Oct 20, 2017 05:08
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"You know what would be a great idea? Asuka makes her big hyped debut, loses to Emma, then Emma makes fun of her and she'll totally be sympathetic for being a giant loser."
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Oct 20, 2017 05:08
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asuka wins via rollup and then emma + dana beat her up for 5 minutes postmatch
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Oct 20, 2017 05:57
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Jubs posted:Why isn't Asuka a -2000? Asuka wasn't a -2000 because the betting lines were JUST released at the time. As of this morning, she's now -1500 instead of -750. Also smart money doesn't come in until Saturday/Sunday.
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Oct 20, 2017 14:28
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Here's a question: Do we even know how the TLC match is going to work? Normally it's standard ladder rules, where you climb a ladder to get the poo poo at the top, right? But they haven't established that the tag titles or IC title would be on the line. Is it going to be pinfall/submission, or are they going to have a big plastic shield at the top?
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Oct 20, 2017 14:31
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When the Shield debuted it was pinfall. So..
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So the Shield is going to bury every cool and good person on the roster in one match?
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