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nigga crab pollock posted:police officers are trained to see civilians as potential threats to their safety and to remain vigilant at all times for threat of physical violence. i mean what u said is all true but its not like some random happenstance that they are killbots its how they are trained to see the general public I had a cop pull me over last month for an expired tag. I made the mistake of reaching for the paper plainly sitting on my dashboard that was another ticket from an hour prior, I figured I wouldn't get another since it was late at night (so I couldn't renew them) and needed to make it home, since I hadn't realized that my state does registration by Birthday, and not whole month like my last State. The officer immediately put their hand on their gun, ordered me to freeze and had 3 more cruisers with 6 more officers show up. The one cop (maybe cop 6 or 7) seemed pretty apologetic about the whole thing. If I were black I guess I'd have just been straight executed instead of some guy apologizing for the over reaction. I did end up with $300+ in tickets though, I guess as a gently caress you from the cop that called in the entire police force because some guy moved his hand toward his steering wheel.
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Minimalist Program posted:Ah you see I think I can explain this cop's reaction; it's simply due to the fact that, in the US, it's considered normal and even healthy for people to open carry and drive around with assault rifles and fully automatic revolves in their cars. I've actually opened my glove box for my license and registration with patient officers waiting before and never thought much of it. I've only had a gun pulled on me one other time and it was because I was driving without headlights (on one of those roads with a huge street light every 20 feet and my headlights were dim anyway) I guess reaching for anything is probably a huge mistake, you should hold your hands in the air and follow instructions closely to not be shot. Wait what's this thread about?
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Jul 21, 2016 19:14
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Cthulu Carl posted:I can't the picture with the actual quote, but I once saw something that said "'Don't make any sudden moves, do what they say, and you won't be hurt' is what you tell hostages, not free citizens." the unwritten rule to surviving police stops in America are #1) Be White #2) If it's a Male officer be a female (the hotter the better) #3) Call them sir and verbally suck their dick, apologizing to them, feed into their power trip Even then it comes down to the day they've had. If he has had a good day he might be gracious enough to bestow upon you a mere warning for your transgressions. Don't treat them with the proper respect and you might get a tazer to the throat and your only crime was that you were "Resisting Arrest" for an arrest that had no point in the first place. If you are Black you are basically hosed. Silence can be seen as hiding something, compliance can be seen as a trick, attitude can be terms for straight execution.
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Jul 21, 2016 20:00
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reallivedinosaur posted:no you got 300+ in tickets for having expired tags Or, work with me here, a reasonable person would have both noticed my out of state license since I moved here, the difference in laws between states and the fact I had already been ticketed not an hour prior to that while it was 10:00PM well after closing of any tag office? I mean if you want to be a technical shitlord, yes in the 3 miles toward my house I moved my tags hadn't been rendered not expired.
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Jul 21, 2016 20:03
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reallivedinosaur posted:lots of people move and manage to get legal tags on their car The state I came from does tags by month. I.E. My February tags would be expired on March 1st. This state does it by birthday, so a February 1st birthday makes my tags expired on February 2nd. Not only did I not know that, I had never heard of that. No state I have ever lived in (10+) has ever had a law like that. I wasn't told that when getting my tags. but I'm sure my justification for a ticket is what's really important in "Cops shoot Black Person Thread #45" of the week and we shouldn't be discussing how police are complete shitlords and that it's impossible they give tickets to be dicks when they are just going Rambo on the populace.
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Jul 21, 2016 20:15
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reallivedinosaur posted:you should have known that? takes two seconds to find out. everyone else does It's a rolling police discussion about how police are terrible, and the main point was that I am white and didn't die however if I had been black I wouldn't have just had a gun pulled on me for literally no reason I would have probably just been shot (but still had a gun pulled on me for no reason,) which is the problem (the police.) Do you really need to sperg out about why I think I got a ticket? Do you also feel unable to drop unimportant minutiae in every aspect of your life? Are you arguing with everyone you know because they say "it's a nice morning" but it's really after 12:00 and technically afternoon? Fat Shat Sings fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Jul 21, 2016 |
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Jul 21, 2016 20:22
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Jul 21, 2016 22:59
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Most of those jobs would be way safer if they had the same considerations the police do. A taxi fare acting strange? put eight bullets into him, claim it was self defense and get a paid vacation while you don't even have to drive your taxi. Some guy wants you to go to a sketchy part of town and won't take no for an answer? Just beat him to the point of being a vegetable with a night stick and say he was refusing to comply. Someone approaching your cab in a way you determine is threatening? Put 4-5 rounds into them (it doesn't matter if you told them to stop or not, just say you did, or not, it doesn't matter. Point is if you feel threatened just waste them)
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Jul 21, 2016 23:13
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RedMage129 posted:Let's suppose you're 100% correct, how exactly does that justify the officer trying to kill the Autist and accidentally shooting the black guy instead? I think the only reason they were going to execute him is because he wasn't following orders. They were shouting to get on the ground and the guy just kept sitting there confused, disobeying their orders, so that was enough for a death sentence. In most of these shootings you see people getting riddled with bullets even if they actually are complying (this time was an accident but still) so if you dare to not comply you are giving them clearance to murder you, then they can say you were resisting arrest or obstructing justice or whatever they want, get some paid vacation if anyone even cares they did it and that's that. Edit (There are some really dumb people in this thread, the shooting was not justified, just pointing out the police decided to use lethal force because someone didn't immediately comply with their instructions, which is actually an improvement over using lethal force on people without instructions, or lethal force on people that are following instructions)
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Jul 22, 2016 05:02
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ClamdestineBoyster posted:Because police are trained to shoot the deaf, disabled, non-English speakers, lame, mute, medically incapacitated, rufied, people in a state of shock, people who are physically incapable of complying with their orders, babies, retards, and the morbidly obese, and snobby rich girls with bad attitudes. It in the manual. I guess the fact they gave this guy more than a few seconds to disobey before deciding to kill him is a tribute to the fact he is white https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzj24uHKWv0&t=30s Those guys were firing almost before the car stopped. Fat Shat Sings fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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Jul 22, 2016 05:22
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ClamdestineBoyster posted:I don't think it says anywhere that they were trying to shoot the autist. Good things the cops cleared this up for you quote:The North Miami police officer who shot an unarmed, black mental health worker caring for a patient actually took aim at the autistic man next to him, but missed, the head of the police union said Thursday.
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Shnag posted:Do cops receive any training on how handle people with mental disabilities? You'd think it would make a lot of sense to take some of the same courses as social workers, so they could handle situations besides of using the ol' standby of screaming and pointing a gun. There would be overlap with people who are drugged up too. You can avoid escalation pretty easily. If you ask a cop you would probably get an answer like "I'm a cop, not some sissy social worker!". People love hero worship, it's a pretty primal concept. It's also why our troops are nothing but thugs protecting the interests of the rich people that call the shots, murdering civilians all over the world for no especially good reason but are celebrated as heroes and you are required to thank them for their service. It's even why we need heroes among the heroes, so the gang of psychopathic rapists (the marines) are hailed as even bigger, better heroes when there has been no threat at all to America in the past few decades.
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