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Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

World-changing power, absolutely no side effects!

ZZT the Fifth posted:

I kind of enjoyed Operation Double 007 just for how odd it was. Well, that, and the score by Ennio Morricone. How'd he end up working on this?

Rent gotta be paid.

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Olds
Oct 17, 2005


ZZT the Fifth posted:

I kind of enjoyed Operation Double 007 just for how odd it was. Well, that, and the score by Ennio Morricone. How'd he end up working on this?

I think there was an interview where he said he took up lesser projects because they gave him leeway to do weird experimental things with his scores, which would explain Exorcist 2 and Diabolik.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

Don't talk to me or my fish ever again!


Bruceski posted:

I don't think anyone who's heard about even a fraction of the behind-the-scenes sausage is going to really judge when most people make bad movies. People working with a budget of pocket change and donuts stolen from the boardroom aren't going to make Indiana Jones.

Well that's pretty much what The Final Sacrifice tried to do

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

World-changing power, absolutely no side effects!

Olds posted:

I think there was an interview where he said he took up lesser projects because they gave him leeway to do weird experimental things with his scores, which would explain Exorcist 2 and Diabolik.

Man, Diabolik just didn't click for me. I think my expectations were too high for The Final Episode.

Ms Boods
Mar 19, 2009


We've gone through a lot of MST3K here, but I've never wanted to show Mr Boods Diabolik, because it's 'the last one.' (I know, there's loads of Rifftrax, but I've had a hell of a time getting him to get into them).

Earlier today: We have to get Netflix this autumn. No arguments.

Him: Why, what's up?

Me: MST3K is coming back.

Him: Consider it done



The answer, my friend, is blow it out your arse.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Volume 37 titles announced:

420- THE HUMAN DUPLICATORS
705- ESCAPE 2000
817- HORROR OF PARTY BEACH
819- INVASION OF THE NEPTUNE MEN

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

Does this excite you, girl?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqAxcs9lC1U

Hogama
Sep 3, 2011


Yeah, I had the radio on, I didn't hear; am I supposed to leave the Bronx?

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...


ZZT the Fifth posted:

I kind of enjoyed Operation Double 007 just for how odd it was. Well, that, and the score by Ennio Morricone. How'd he end up working on this?

Same reason he did Exorcist 2 I would presume:

Bruceski posted:

Rent gotta be paid.

all-Rush mixtape
Sep 14, 2011

Because no one man should hold all that power.

Not the Hitler Building!

Rollersnake
May 9, 2005

Please, please don't let me end up in a threesome with the lunch lady and a gay pirate. That would hit a little too close to home.

Neptune Men's definitely not a favorite of mine. The tone of the show was generally a bit more mean-spirited later on, but that's the first episode I recall seeing that just struck me as weirdly hateful.

The only one of the set I'm sure I haven't seen is Escape 2000. It sounds promising (and not remotely similar to the film I imagined from the title).

discworld is all I read
Apr 7, 2009

DAIJOUBU!! ... Daijoubu ?? ?


Yeah, I only realize in retrospect that the later season's Japanese fare was usually pretty racist, especially Neptune Men. Prince of Space wasn't as bad with it, but it had it's moments of bottom of the barrel racial Japanese stereotype comments.

Burkion
May 10, 2012


Niggurath posted:

Yeah, I only realize in retrospect that the later season's Japanese fare was usually pretty racist, especially Neptune Men. Prince of Space wasn't as bad with it, but it had it's moments of bottom of the barrel racial Japanese stereotype comments.

To be slightly fair to the Riffing

gently caress Neptune Men. It shamelessly used WWII footage where people undoubtedly died for cheap stock footage.

Neptune Men deserves all hate it gets. You don't bring out the Hitler Building and get away with that.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...


Niggurath posted:

Yeah, I only realize in retrospect that the later season's Japanese fare was usually pretty racist, especially Neptune Men. Prince of Space wasn't as bad with it, but it had it's moments of bottom of the barrel racial Japanese stereotype comments.

All I can remember that could be a Japanese stereotype joke was something about buying violent porn comics.

And maybe one about being good at math?


Either way I like it very much.

Jet Jaguar
Feb 12, 2006

Don't touch my bags if you please, Mr. Customs Man.



Pillbug

Richard Kiel! I remember nothing else about the Human Duplicators other than it has Richard Kiel in it.

Command Ant
Aug 9, 2010

I'M
YOUR
WAIFU
NOW!


There's a part at the end of Gamera Vs. Gaos where Crow mentions all of the people who wrote in saying they'd like to see Japanese monster movies on the show. I was one of those people.

Robotic Accolade
Jul 23, 2007

EDF! EDF! EDF!


One movie I think could be straight-up fun redone, and I'm probably alone in thinking this, is The Undead by Roger Corman. Sure, it would need a different director, a different cast, a different script, and a better framing story couldn't hurt, but there's just so much straight up goofiness in the film! Evil witches and good witches doing battle, a maudlin gravedigger, a time-travelling hypnotist engaged in a battle of wits with the Devil! It's a cheap cash-in that was filmed in a week, but there's this thinly stretched insanity to the whole thing that keeps it spinning along. It's the kind of movie where you can have a naked man mug a mounted knight and not bat an eye. A remake would have to tread a fine line in maintaining that rough, honest feel, but with enough budget and time to work the pacing issues out and someone, anyone else playing Pendragon, it could be a fun little film.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!



Mister Kingdom posted:

Volume 37 titles announced:

420- THE HUMAN DUPLICATORS
705- ESCAPE 2000
817- HORROR OF PARTY BEACH
819- INVASION OF THE NEPTUNE MEN

Now things really start to get interesting. Because most of the episodes left, including all of the Joel episodes remaining, seemingly have big rights roadblocks.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup


Pillbug

X-O posted:

Now things really start to get interesting. Because most of the episodes left, including all of the Joel episodes remaining, seemingly have big rights roadblocks.

Has there been any talk or news articles on these roadblocks?
As would love to read on why lovely movies are being blocked, who are the assholes blocking them.

Burkion
May 10, 2012


happyhippy posted:

Has there been any talk or news articles on these roadblocks?
As would love to read on why lovely movies are being blocked, who are the assholes blocking them.

Well for the Godzilla movies

Toho

Toho

Aaaaaand Toho.


Also there's like, this one lady who owns

Five of the movies I think?

And she won't ever let them be used by MST3K ever again. There's a specific name for them but I don't know what it was. I think It Conquered the World was one of them?

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!



happyhippy posted:

Has there been any talk or news articles on these roadblocks?
As would love to read on why lovely movies are being blocked, who are the assholes blocking them.

Yes actually, Travis at the MST3K Board has been keeping up with the rights for movies since 2006. Here's the rundown of what's left according to him:

quote:

201- Rocketship X-M
Wade Williams/Corinth Films. Wade has a sentimental attachment to this particular film, so it's a firm "no" unless he changes his mind. *DVD released by Image Entertainment* <EXTREMELY UNLIKELY>

213- Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster
Toho says no. <EXTREMELY UNLIKELY>


309 - The Amazing Colossal Man
Susan Nicholson Hofheinz (aka Susan Hart). Susan isn't even interested in releasing the Un-MSTied versions (or wants too much money to license them), so this could be a bit of a wait. <EXTREMELY UNLIKELY>

311 - It Conquered the World
see above. <EXTREMELY UNLIKELY>


416 - Fire Maidens from Outer Space
Olive Films (licensed from Paramount). Sources tell us Olive Films has the rights to this until 2018, so it may be a bit of a wait (unless Shout Factory works some kind of deal with Olive in the meantime). *BluRay released by Olive Films* <NOT LIKELY>

418 - Attack of the The Eye Creatures
Susan Hart (or MGM). MGM has shown several of Larry Buchanan's AIP-TV flicks on various HD networks (all are listed under MGM copyrights), while many sources say Susan Hart owns claim to it (along with ZONTAR THE THING FROM VENUS, but none of the other Azalea remakes). This could be messy to sort out. *DVD released by Retromedia (assuming PD)* <EXTREMELY UNLIKELY>


601 - Girls Town
Warner Brothers (licensed from Paramount). Sources tell us the rights will revert back to Paramount this year unless Warner chooses to renew. If the rights revert, consider this extremely-likely, otherwise it may be a wait. <NOT LIKELY>

602 - Invasion USA
Sony. Finally found a Columbia Pictures copyright renewal. *DVD released by Synapse Video (assuming PD)* <LIKELY>

605 - Colossus and the Headhunters
RCM Produzione Cinematografica/Alta Vista. Originally released by AIP, the rights have most likely reverted back to their original Italian owners. I found a Spanish Region 2 DVD released by Filmax Home Video under it's international title FURY OF THE HEADHUNTERS, also a Greek Region 2 release, so either may be a good place to start to get back to the current rights holders. *No authorized Region 1 DVD release* <LIKELY>

618 - High School Big Shot
Originally distributed by The Filmgroup, Roger Corman's company that gave us THE WASP WOMAN, LITTLE SHOP OF HORRORS, GIRL IN LOVER'S LANE, etc. Most, if not all, have been in a grey "assumed public domain" status for years due to their copyrights not being renewed, and this one is no different. Something Weird Video released this on a "Troubled Teens Triple Feature" DVD years back, SWV generally licenses all of their oddities, but this could have been a case of assuming PD and access to a good print (ala Retromedia). The legit route? Go to Roger Corman. *DVD released by Something Weird Video (assuming PD)* <LIKELY>

623 - The Amazing Transparent Man
MGM. Shout! released this UnMSTied in an 4-MGM SciFi film DVD set. *DVD released by Shout! Factory* <EXTREMELY-LIKELY>


807 - Terror from the Year 5000
Susan Nicholson Hofheinz (aka Susan Hart). She isn't even interested in releasing the Un-MSTied versions (or wants too much money to license them), so this could be a bit of a wait. <EXTREMELY UNLIKELY>

809 - I Was a Teenage Werewolf
see above. <EXTREMELY UNLIKELY>


905 - The Deadly Bees
Olive Films (licensed from Paramount). Sources tell us Olive has a 5-year deal on this with Paramount, so unless Shout manages to work something out with Olive in the meantime, we could be in for a bit of a wait (2020). *Blu-ray released by Olive Films* <NOT LIKELY>

906 - The Space Children
Olive Films (licensed from Paramount). Same deal with #905, except this one will become available slightly sooner (2017). <NOT LIKELY>

913 - Quest of the Delta Knights
Copyright by Ramsway JC/LTD. I have found *several* foreign DVD releases that might be a good starting place to track down the current U.S. rights holder: a Region 0 [PAL Format] by Flashback Entertainment (OOP), a Region 4 DVD released in Australia/New Zealand by Payless Entertainment, a Czech Region 2 DVD release by Blesk DVD, and even a South Africa Region 2 DVD by Impact Video. Wow. Originally released on VHS by Hemdale Home Video, reissued by Plaza Ent in 1999. *No Region 1 DVD releases* <LIKELY>


1007 - Track of the Moonbeast
Copyright 1972 Lizard Productions Inc. Has had an assumed public domain status for years, it may be a dig to find the current rights holders. Cinema Shares International released this theatrically (they also released GODZILLA VS. MEGALON, THE PUMAMAN and DEVIL FISH), but went under in the mid-late 80's. Released on VHS by Prism Entertainment wayy back when. *multiple DVD releases (assuming PD)* <NOT LIKELY>

1013 - Diabolik
Warner Brothers (licensed from Paramount). Sources tell us Warner's deal with Paramount expires this year, unless they choose to renew. If the rights revert back to Paramount, I'd say this was pretty likely. If Warner renews, it'll be a few years wait. *DVD released by Paramount (out of print)* <NOT LIKELY>



He updates this list as often as news comes up, you can find it here: http://forrestcrow.proboards.com/th...ry-release-list

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...


So that woman has a death grip on The Amazing Colossal Man, but let War of the Colossal Beast go?

The Time Dissolver
Nov 7, 2012

Are you a good person?


It's the DEVIL and it's FUN!

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!



Ensign_Ricky posted:

So that woman has a death grip on The Amazing Colossal Man, but let War of the Colossal Beast go?

Arkhoff Estates owned the rights to that film not American International Pictures which is where her rights originate from. She is the widow of the AIP co-founder. She does get some money from it though because I think it falls under derivative works since it uses the same characters.

There's a neat feature length doc on AIP on the Volume 34 DVD set. Another reason why the Shout DVDs are the best.

X-O fucked around with this message at Jul 27, 2016 around 08:01

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible

Mister Kingdom posted:

Volume 37 titles announced:
420- THE HUMAN DUPLICATORS


Jet Jaguar posted:

Richard Kiel! I remember nothing else about the Human Duplicators other than it has Richard Kiel in it.

I'm not too proud to admit that there's a riff in THE HUMAN DUPLICATORS that I use in my daily life. Whenever waiting for something that's taking too long, I'll say "Nine hours later", followed by "Meanwhile, the following June ..."

Ballz
Dec 16, 2003

it's mario time



Thanks to Travis' list, I'd say we have one more boxset after the just announced volume before things get interesting.

But bombshell releases have happened before (Gamera the most obvious example) so I'd say nothing is impossible.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...


Ballz posted:

Thanks to Travis' list, I'd say we have one more boxset after the just announced volume before things get interesting.

But bombshell releases have happened before (Gamera the most obvious example) so I'd say nothing is impossible.

I think Pumaman was the most surprising considering the stories I'd read about no one actually knowing who owned the rights anymore.

Burkion
May 10, 2012


I'd say Godzilla VS Megalon but

Well

That didn't work out so well

Rollersnake
May 9, 2005

Please, please don't let me end up in a threesome with the lunch lady and a gay pirate. That would hit a little too close to home.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised there are issues with Rocketship X-M and Diabolik, as all the other "plot-relevant" episodes have been out for a while now. It's a shame about Rocketship X-M in particular, as that was the first episode I ever saw, and it's still one of my favorites. An official release of that episode would be an insta-buy for me.

Ms Boods
Mar 19, 2009


Richard Kiel's smoooooth delivery in Human Duplicators is one of the best things in the world.

Dolly....pretty dolly...

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



I remember how thrilled I was to stumble upon a VHS copy of The Amazing Colossal Man episode that somehow the store missed the recall notice (IIRC, there was a properly licensed VHS release a few years later). And twenty years later and we still have the same problems with that episode.

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004

Eh.


I just finished watching Fargo Season 1, and not only is it a darn fine piece of TV lemme tell ya, but it also cleared up an MST3K reference I didn't originally get in "Red Zone Cuba".

The reference in question was when Servo jokes about the "Cuba/Bemidji Border" and I had no idea what or where "Bemidji" was...until watching Fargo Season 1, much of which is set in the aforementioned Minnesota town (it's also on a lake, which is why Servo made the quip, because the scenes supposedly showing the team of "commandos" "invading" "Cuba" featured them rowing on the distinctly placid waters of a lake).

MST3K: the gift that just keeps on giving.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

World-changing power, absolutely no side effects!

Sydney Bottocks posted:

I just finished watching Fargo Season 1, and not only is it a darn fine piece of TV lemme tell ya, but it also cleared up an MST3K reference I didn't originally get in "Red Zone Cuba".

The reference in question was when Servo jokes about the "Cuba/Bemidji Border" and I had no idea what or where "Bemidji" was...until watching Fargo Season 1, much of which is set in the aforementioned Minnesota town (it's also on a lake, which is why Servo made the quip, because the scenes supposedly showing the team of "commandos" "invading" "Cuba" featured them rowing on the distinctly placid waters of a lake).

MST3K: the gift that just keeps on giving.

I'm like that with Terry Pratchett books. Every couple of years I'll learn something that makes another line in them hilarious. Like Selachii being the clade for sharks, which puts a new perspective on that family's feud with the Venturis (a key bit of fluid dynamics in jet engines).

Command Ant
Aug 9, 2010

I'M
YOUR
WAIFU
NOW!


Rollersnake posted:

I guess I shouldn't be surprised there are issues with Rocketship X-M and Diabolik, as all the other "plot-relevant" episodes have been out for a while now. It's a shame about Rocketship X-M in particular, as that was the first episode I ever saw, and it's still one of my favorites. An official release of that episode would be an insta-buy for me.

Rocketship X-M was the first episode I saw with my dad and the reason he's as big a fan of MST3K as I am. The only reason he even watched it was because I got in an argument with my sister over what to watch that night, and he decided sacrificing his own TV time was better than listening to us yell at each other. After that, it turned into a tradition for us to order a pizza and watch MST together every Saturday night.

DivisionPost
Jun 28, 2006

Nobody likes you.
Everybody hates you.
You're gonna lose.

Smile, you fuck.


I'm watching Monster A-Go-Go for the first time.

Not ten minutes into this movie and Joel and the crew are beating on it like it owed them money. This is beautifully savage.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

Again, Torts took him to a very high mountain and showed him Nationwide and all its splendor.

"All this I will give you," he said, "if you will lay down and block for me." -Jackets 15:16



A couple Decembers ago, I couldn't sleep and turned on AMC at 3am to find the movie Santa Claus, a 1959 movie that probably sucked then and sure as poo poo was nightmare fuel in 2014.

Fortunately, I thought of an old show I watched in the early 2000s and figured they'd done it. Sure enough, MST3K riffed it, and it's the only way to watch it without being uncomfortable.

I'm glad to see this is coming back and I'm hoping the classics wind up on Netflix, too.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible

CBJSprague24 posted:

A couple Decembers ago, I couldn't sleep and turned on AMC at 3am to find the movie Santa Claus, a 1959 movie that probably sucked then and sure as poo poo was nightmare fuel in 2014.

Fortunately, I thought of an old show I watched in the early 2000s and figured they'd done it. Sure enough, MST3K riffed it, and it's the only way to watch it without being uncomfortable.

I'm glad to see this is coming back and I'm hoping the classics wind up on Netflix, too.

I saw it in theaters. It was the early 80s, and a General Cinema theater has a kid's morning matinee, and this was one of the films playing. Never remember what it was called, all I remembered was Santa Claus vs the Devil. And this was shortly after The Amityville Horror had come out, and the trailers for that had scared the crap out of me

Solaris Knight
Apr 26, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT POWER RANGERS MYSTIC FORCE


I hope Jonah and the gang do at least one tokusatsu movie for Season 11, it wouldn't feel like MST3K without at least one cheesy monster movie specifically filmed Japanese style.

Rollersnake
May 9, 2005

Please, please don't let me end up in a threesome with the lunch lady and a gay pirate. That would hit a little too close to home.

CBJSprague24 posted:

A couple Decembers ago, I couldn't sleep and turned on AMC at 3am to find the movie Santa Claus, a 1959 movie that probably sucked then and sure as poo poo was nightmare fuel in 2014.

Fortunately, I thought of an old show I watched in the early 2000s and figured they'd done it. Sure enough, MST3K riffed it, and it's the only way to watch it without being uncomfortable.

I'm glad to see this is coming back and I'm hoping the classics wind up on Netflix, too.

One of my all-time favorite riffs is just the deranged laughter in response to that mechanical reindeer, because really, how are you supposed to respond to that?

Similarly, Tom Servo's perfectly-timed scream in the "buzz off, kid" scene in Mitchell.

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Ms Boods
Mar 19, 2009


Rollersnake posted:

One of my all-time favorite riffs is just the deranged laughter in response to that mechanical reindeer, because really, how are you supposed to respond to that?

Similarly, Tom Servo's perfectly-timed scream in the "buzz off, kid" scene in Mitchell.

For me, it's Tom's 'End. End. ENNNNDDDD' in Batwoman. Until we watched that one, no one in this house realised that this cry of despair (especially during particularly crap Top of the Pops and Eurovision acts)* was not original to me. Tom's meltdowns are some of my highlights (as are when you can tell the guys are genuinely busting each other up, like during Laserblast.)

Any time Crow suffers a freakout and falls apart, catches on fire, etc., is Mr Boods's fave.


*Hey, I like to watch old TotP on BBC Four; bite me.

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