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Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer

The Time Dissolver posted:

I love that off the cuff quality where the jokes don't even have to be jokes. Even just a withering sigh at the right time can be gutbusting. I hope the writers of the MST3k revival can see that and find a way to recapture it because Rifftrax sure hasn't. It's okay but you can feel every riff being pitched, honed, approved, rehearsed, etc.

I love the part in Manos where Crow just mutters "swear to God they just dissolved to the exact same shot."

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Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Mister Kingdom posted:

Then there was this (thankfully) failed experiment:



An attempt to have Tom's head take up less space in the theater. Only used in Rocket Attack USA and Ring of Terror.

So that's why they did that. Huh.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
The Home Economics Story is so great.

"Kegs will be tapped, men will be used."

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
And of course Here Comes the Devil Circus is amazing.

"And Madonna thinks she's innovative!"

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Lathe of Heaven is actually really good. Still has PBS level production values but captures the book really well.

Overdrawn was from a short story and they tried to add a whole bunch to it which is probably why it makes so little sense.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
The violent walnut stampede

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
You can tell sometimes when they've edited because of Crow- his mouth will move when he doesn't say anything, or not move when he does, because things were shuffled around in post.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I'm definitely in the "worse the movie is, the better the episode" camp. Even something like The Starfighters, a movie where nothing happens because it was made entirely to convince people that the Lockheed Starfighter wasn't a flying death trap, has a certain fascination.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Yeah I rewatched the popcorn sketch recently and it's just an amazing bit of comedy.

"You should get used to it! You're gonna be eating a lot of cheese! Government cheese!"

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
The best sketch is sadly from an episode that isn't going to be released, probably:

https://youtu.be/G4eR-uZTJZ8

(I managed to snag the DVD set this appeared on before it was pulled.)

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I was hooked by the ads- I was (and am) into retro sci fi movies and that was what interested me. However on my family's cable provider, Comedy Central shared a number with QVC- they'd each have twelve hours a day and however it was arranged, the switchover to CC was after MST. Eventually the schedule was such that I could catch halves of episodes, I forget what the first of those was. Finally one day Comedy Central had the network number to itself. First full episode was almost certainly Gamera vs Guiron.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Food! Eating! The theater!

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Trumpy, bring me the girl! I desire to be read to!

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I wonder if there's beer on the sun.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Dear Agent Scully, did not appreciate your lawyer's tone...

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
It was a pretty good cult, but hockey season's starting.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Warewilf might make it on there.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
My my my my GOD

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Squat Gruntthrust!

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Carnival Magic is gonna be the new show's Manos. It's so baffling.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
And yet there are still comedy troupes around the country who try to do "Mystery Science Theater 3000 but unscripted and spontaneous!" like there wasn't a very good reason they started writing.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

I watched the Rifftrax of Stone Cold (starring Brian Bosworth) today and I have to comment on what a terrible movie it is. The hero has a real Mitchell-esque unredeemability to him. and by the end of the movie his undercover "investigation" has led to the deaths of a few dozen cops, countless innocent bystanders and the entire state supreme court (along with everyone else in the courtroom). It's really exceptionally bad.

It stinks!

It's a very bad movie with one very good line-

"I remember the last thing my father ever said to me; 'Don't, son, that thing's loaded!'"

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Gaspy Conana posted:

What are the most watchable MST films other than This Island Earth? By 'most watchable' I mean least boring; they can be bad-good or good-good.

The Gamera and Godzilla films are near the top. The Russo-Finish ones I think could probably be good if I saw them properly restored- there's a lot of visual grandeur but the prints were in bad shape.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
The riffing there still has a casual, "friends joking around" atmosphere which is interesting- a lot of the jokes are corny, but "Bambi, humans are basically good!" is amazing.

The host segments are perfect.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

BigRed0427 posted:

It wasn't all over the place, but Joel's run has jokes making fun of white people from time to time. The opening to Mr. B Natural comes to mind. Hell, making white rivlage jokes are half the fun of watching old educational shorts.

The Truck Farmer is a particularly brutally political one- it's basically selling the migrant worker program.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

The Ape of Naples posted:

That really was a quintessential MST3k moment. To be fair though, I'm assuming that that was just a place holder and everyone thought that a real phone ring would be dubbed over it. Either they didn't notice in editing or more likely just didn't care to fix it by that point.

Monster A Go Go was a film put together from the remains of another production that went bust. That's why there's no ending, the guy who picked it up literally could not afford to shoot new footage.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Yeah it has a certain intensity that's helped by Ann Margaret being, well, Ann Margaret.

"You turned off Doodles Weaver!"

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Still on Cry Wilderness and what the poo poo even is this movie

(On a similar note they should do Roar)

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Bicyclops posted:

I don't know why people hate Felicia Day so much, she captures the try-hard, over-the-top awkwardness of Dr. Forester and Pearl perfectly. What the hell is the thing with the bubbles that keep popping up on the screen though? It's a little distracting.

e: holy poo poo, Cry Wilderness is a weird-rear end movie

In CW it's masking a cut I guess, so the clock gag probably needed some kind of edit.

But yeah I like Day as Kinga. She has a good "slightly crazy" vibe.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Cry Wilderness is clearly someone's pet project (I suspect Philip Yordan but I can't be sure.) Clearly it made total and complete sense in their head and was going to be the next E.T.

I cannot wait for Carnival Magic y'all.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
"I'm good at space."

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
The Mesozoic Grill sketch is my favorite host segment so far.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

LabyaMynora posted:

In Avalanche, why does the photographer guy shoot a missile at the mountain during the ski race? It doesn't cause the avalanche, and no one seems to bring it up ever again. It's like a random snippet thrown in for zero reason at all. Unless I zoned out, I don't think I missed anything.

He's apparently trying to trigger smaller avalanches to clear off some of the snow. Like controlled burning of forests.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I appreciated it when I caught a subtle Firesign Theater nod. There were quite a few on the old show but it's sort of an inside thing still.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Pod People has some funny riffs (in a very laid-back style), but it's the host segments that make it. From "Hideous Control" to the Hearts of Space parody to "You are magic, aren't you Trumpy?" and finally, Clown in the Sky. Just gold.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Wait stars still exist? I thought they'd switched over to thumbs up/down.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
This showed up on my Twitter feed on Free Comic Book Day and it's very cute

https://twitter.com/smittygirl/status/858019026366345216

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Pod People is an eternal favorite. The best host segments, plus a laid back riffing vibe. "Huzzah!"

Rocket Attack USA is also one I've seen a lot.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Starcrash is too slow paced to be as incoherent as it is. I'm a sucker for late-70s, immediately-post-Star Wars space opera aesthetics, but with that and Caroline Munro it's still just tedious.

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Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I first saw Carnival Magic via TCM Underground and so when I heard it would be on the new MST I knew it would be a highlight.

It's the epitome of the low-budget movie that's the filmmaker giving a showcase to all his "talented" friends who need a big break. Someone really believed in all this.

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