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Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

exquisite tea posted:

The Wild World of Batwoman is my pick because I've seen it at least twice and still have no idea what it's about or what is supposed to be happening onscreen at any given moment. It's telling that all the host segments in that episode were about the Cheating short instead.

In terms of sheer boringness, a few episodes from the early seasons would definitely be in contention.

I know the MST3K guys say this and everyone else does, but I actually liked Batwoman. It's got that 60s camp and it's just so goofy, plus I like all the 60s babes. Not on my best list but definitely not on my boring list.

As far as some of the others mentioned...

All of the Colman Francis movies stand out as bleak, boring, very little dialogue, and bizarre dialogue when it does exist. Yucca flats is definitely the worst. Skydivers has just enough goofy stuff happening every now and then that it's probably the least boring. Red Zone Cuba is the closest Francis gets to art and it's terrible.

Monster A Go Go - I have watched a few times and I remember very little. Just the beginning and end really. So that's up there too.

Ring of Terror is the worst mentioned so far. I remember nothing.

Outside of that, my pick is The Creeping Terror. Almost no dialogue either out of ineptitude or lack of budget, crappy narration, and a lame monster that looks like a rug. Apparently they didn't pay the costume guy so he took the monster suits and the director had to improvise. The music is painful. The sound in general is the worst of any MST3K. I have heard different stories on why there is dialogue but it didn't get recorded. I think it's because it was initially recorded poorly and turned out unusuable and all they could afford was a narrator instead of redubbing it, so you have soundless clips of people talking and then the narrator comes in to explain the conversation. Worse than Manos or anything else. There's nothing interesting about this except how lame the monster and its attacks are but even that is painfully boring after like 5 seconds. It's almost depressing.

Honorable mention to Radar Secret Service and Castle of Fu Man Chu.

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Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Invasion USA and Rocket Attack USA are two of my favorites because I loved the Cold War hysteria/support the military industrial complex narrative. Highschool Big Shot is a downer, though. I can't think of anything positive to say about it but it was competent enough that the story itself comes off as depressing rather than it simply being done so poorly it's sad, if that makes any sense (For instance, I get the idea that Colman Francis was clinically depressed and it comes through in a movie like Skydivers even though it's not meant to be depressing). Kitten With a Whip is actually pretty engaging but not for the right reasons. I've heard people say watching it triggers anxiety.

Then there's the Amazing Transparent Man. I know I've watched it several times but I don't remember it at all

Mulaney Power Move fucked around with this message at 18:43 on May 8, 2023

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Last of the Wild Horses might be the most competent movie they ever did, it's just so generic.

In general I can't get into the boring non sci fi horror movies. The Unearthly at least had Tor Johnson. Tormented and The Screaming Skull have absolutely nothing interesting.

Then, randomly - Angels Revenge - I never have had any desire to rewatch this and I can't remember anything except that it's a Charlie's Angels knock off.

Mighty Jack - some funny bits but too incoherent.

Teenage Caveman - I do actually remember the plot but boy is it boring.

Viking Women and the Sea Serpent - Why not just watch one of the Hercules movies?

Swamp Diamonds - I can't think of anything to say about this good or bad.

Devil Fish (sigh)

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

The thing with Devil Fish is that a dumb fish monster movie should be right up my alley but everything about this movie is wrong. I think Devil Fish is supposed to be an octopus-shark thing but I have no idea. We never see it and the dialogue is translated poorly and it's so obviously European that it's galling. Why even bother to pretend you're in Florida? Just say you're on the Mediterranean. It makes no difference.

I think the fish wins in the end. I hope it did, at least.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

I figured Starfighters would get a mention but in my opinion it's saved by great riffing and its inexplicable cool jazz soundtrack. Plus, the host segments giving an extremely accurate portrayal of trying to log on to the Internet for the first time in the early days of commercial dial-up Internet.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

There's something about the sheer amount of 1960s melodramatic teen overacting in Teenage Strangler (the Mikey actor and girlfriend actress seem to be competing) and just raw 1960s teen-aged squareness - Dylan was about to go electric and these nitwits are jamming to Yipe Stripes; the feared hot rod biker gang is instantly deterred by a police threat to call their parents - that makes that one my favorite delinquency films, especially since the teens win at the end.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Keromaru5 posted:

Man, I had some friends over to watch Last of the Wild Horses, and it was the first one where they truly could not endure the movie long enough to stick with the host segments.

Wasn't this the one where the movie had so little to work with that they just gave up and made all the host segments about waffles?

Yep. It's really dull and it lacks a main character. I guess the Viking Women are the main character. There's barely any Sea Serpent. It's just dumb Viking women and ineffectual men on a dull island.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Mulaney Power Move posted:

Yep. It's really dull and it lacks a main character. I guess the Viking Women are the main character. There's barely any Sea Serpent. It's just dumb Viking women and ineffectual men on a dull island.

See I just thought they were ripping off the child actor who did young George Bailey in It's a Wonderful Life.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

I love the Hercules/Maciste movies. The riffs are so good they transform the main character. Riffed Herc is a great character.

I think it was after the "even if it costs me my life bit" where Herc takes off on a horse and Joel says "Yeah and then Herc went to the bar and said he couldn't find them." and in my mind that's what happens off camera.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

I think I must have been home from school sick in bed and taking cold medicine the first time I saw Pod People because that's what it reminds me of.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Uncle Wemus posted:

I saw the godzilla movies before mst3k but that's because tnt used to do godzilla marathons in the early 90s

Same. Godzilla was ubiquitous on cable for a small period during that time.

I also saw Hercules and Revenge of the Creature. We had the latter on VHS and my brother and I would watch the scene where The Creature throws the guy into the tree over and over.

I did see both Mac and Me and Nukie, though.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

I used to fall asleep to MST3K when I was a kid but there were always episodes on late or marathons.

Other than that, there was a period in my 20s where I always woke up hungover early on Saturday mornings and I'd just shut the blinds, put it on, get high, and doze. Joel eps were my go to for this. I probably watched The Giant Gila Monster 20 times this way.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Oh, and I watched Pod People on a day where I was home sick from school and feverish on cold medicine so every time I rewatch it I feel like I'm in a fever dream.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Another Bill posted:

Gamera appears in 5 films also

He was mostly behind the camera for one

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Lumbermouth posted:

Teen-Age Strangler has been my favorite discovery from the Forever-a-thon. Everyone in it is just trying SO HARD.

The kid who plays Mikey seemed to be basing his acting entirely from the kid who played young George Bailey in It's a Wonderful Life. Watch the scene where he has to confront the druggist. It's almost beat for beat.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

The Undead is another one where the actors were actually trying. It was filmed in an empty grocery store, I think.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

echoing the sentiment on the "shorts-a-thon" stream. maybe it's because there aren't enough shorts, or they're too short, but i've tuned in a couple of times in the past week and it's always on the same short played in the same order. they actually played two versions of the mr. b natural short back-to-back.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

You know Buzz, you're like a blind rattlesnake...

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

the greasiest haunted house

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Simplex posted:

It's better than a number of others, it's real notoriety is that it's basically the last movie of the genre.

I've seen it being shown on TCM a couple of times.

Off the top of my head I can't think of any other MST3K movies that have been on TCM. Apparently Alien from LA has been, which is baffling.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

I imagine it found it's way to TCM because they were playing movies starring super models or something, so it found its way in.

Catalina Caper was featured on a programming block with beach movies. It was during a summer holiday irc.

TCM does play interesting B movies now and then. I've seen "Them! a couple of times, even "Rodan." No MST3K features that I can recall. I would guess Revenge of the Creature might have been shown at some point, though.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Some of those movies made it on their regular programming. They play "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?" all the time.

I watched a bunch of these but somehow missed the MST3K ones. I think TCM Underground got pre-empted A LOT when it was on Friday nights.

And yeah that sucks about TCM going downhill, one of the last good things about cable and they're pissing it away.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

I watched the Killers from Space Film Crew episode last night. I had read about this movie but have never seen it. Apparently, it was the first movie to depict the canonical alien abduction scenario where big eyed aliens abduct someone, do medical experiments, then wipe their memory only for them to have nightmarish flashbacks (in this case the giant googly eyeballst hat were made from egg cartons) - all ten years before the first abduction story as such. This doesn't count the stories where people would see airships and be taken aboard by their pilots and flown to the North Pole. I think in those stories they were just supposed to be human inventors with monocles and tophats.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

I put on one of those MSTK3k forever-thons and Hamlet was on and I good lord that movie felt like it was six hours long

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Upsidads posted:

Magic Voyage of Sinbad is so drat fun, visually interesting, upbeat, and weird. Definitely one of the most expensive and competent movies the watched

I think it was Kevin Murphy who admitted he actually like the Russo-Finnish movies they did like Sinbad, The Sword and the Dragon, Jack Frost, The Day the Earth Froze...

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Larryb posted:

I hear Jack Frost is actually pretty watchable in its original language (I believe there’s a subbed version out there), is the same true for the others as well (for example the Sinbad movie was not actually supposed to be about Sinbad)?

I believe Prince of Space is at least a little more coherent in Japanese as well

I think I also read that Sinbad wasn't actually Sinbad in the original language version, it was some mythical or maybe historical Russo-Finnish hero that English speaking audiences wouldn't have recognized.

I looked it up and it was Kevin Murphy who said he appreciated these movies because they have a charming earnestness. They're good stories, I mean they're actual folk stories or fairy tales, and competently made if not overly ambitious for the budget and they do have some charming and colorful visuals. They're mostly goofy because of the dubs or because some of the foreign elements don't come across very well. I can appreciate them too.

I would put those at the top of the list for "good" MST3K movies. They weren't incompetent or thrown together shlock or some cheap sleazy money grab. I think "in earnest" is the best way to put it.

One movie that doesn't necessarily check all those boxes that I still appreciate is The Undead. Yes, it's a dumb movie and cheap thrown together shlock that was shot over a weekend in an empty supermarket, but god damnit the actors are actually trying.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

I guess you could also say the actors in "Teenage Strangler" are really trying too, though, and I don't really appreciate the earnestness of that...so it's a little subjective, honestly.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

mycophobia posted:

my brain keeps extrapolating Riding With Death into Riding In Cars With Death

I'm still not sure if he's supposed to be "Easy Rider" or "Sleazy Rider" - I mean it sounds like he's actually saying the latter. Just keep the Black Barts off my mudflaps.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

IT WAS A BULLDOG....I MIGHT HAVE SEEN A BULLDOG

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

I also have a soft spot for all the 1960s teen deliquency movies. You know teen delinquency really was a much bigger problem back then.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

And Japan really did have a Hitler building

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

verbal enema posted:

IIRC the lead girl was an actual actor so everyone was trying to mimic her which is why you get a perfect performance out of Mikey

Yeah there's the scene where they're both talking to the cop (or something) and crying and it's like Mikey is just trying to match her performance

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Sash! posted:

Did you notice the GET MARRIED IMMEDIATELY girl in Are You Ready For Marriage? and Judy the Thundersquishy are both hurling themselves at engineers who definitely took shop?

You don't need to worry about girls. They're already worrying about you.

I thought the girl who defied her parents to get married immediately was in love with a football player, and that's why her parents didn't approve. The elderly Romulan woman who was delaying marriage was the one in love with an engineer who was struggling with writing an essay

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Those 1950s/60s women are always defying their parents out of lust and risking being cast out of the family, but first they're going to run off to get married, damnit. Otherwise it would be a sin.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Did the scene fade away while they were making out or did they stop making out before the scene ended? That's how you know whether or not they had premarital sex.

For instance, the titular girl in gold boots had sex with Buzz after the biker incident - they start making out on each other and the scene fades out.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

I wonder what kind of sentence Eddie Crane ended up with. Accessory to murder, but he did basically bring in Moon, if they choose to take that into account. I imagine 5-10 years, or maybe probation and put in custody of his manager in the bug-eyed lady.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

muscles like this! posted:

Angel's Revenge is such an odd movie. There's the attack on the compound scene which is full of goofy sound effects and guys jumping around but then near the end they just start gunning goons down.

It's an odd juxtaposition. The Angels were insanely violent. Didn't they chop a guy's dick off for selling weed?

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

I watched the Rifftrax "Icebreaker" and you know I actually liked the movie. It's not bad. It's nothing special but I don't think it's really bad at all.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

(voiceover) hey sleazy rider if we get out of this how about you come race cars for me and robert denby

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Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

I like to imagine the showrunners of Gemini Man aka Riding with Death going on about how Buffalo is the key to it all and if they get him working the series will take off, so they brought him back and when it didn't work out they blamed the actor and that's why we never got to see the actor who played Buffalo in his own show

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