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Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010



Dabir posted:

Which fangame is it that unironically uses Metal Gear Rising's final boss theme in its own final boss? I know it's one of the ones by the BtS/AtS guy.

It has to be Sonic Chrono Adventure then, as that's the only one of his that doesn't have an entirely custom soundtrack.

That game is a super weird experimental thing anyway, it's an open world Metroid style game complete with ability upgrades, and there's Sonic CD time travel on top of that. I thought it got very tedious with backtracking pretty quickly. The way Sonic controls really isn't made for the style of game.

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Robotnik Nudes
Jul 8, 2013

do you want to touch
my pingas


I can't imagine any Sonic game more annoying than an exploration based Sonic game. CD nails it by having the exploration be an optional aspect while also still being optimized for speed play through. Even thinking about a Sonjc Metroidvania makes me PHYSICALLY ILL

LOCUST FART HELL
Mar 8, 2007



Grimey Drawer

How do you feel about remixes that feature new lyrics? I've heard a few cringey ones but I've noticed that they overall seem to have improved in quality in recent years.

#10 Frictionless - SuperiorX feat Jivemaster
Sonic 2 - Metropolis, Sonic 3 - Marble Garden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvdUg4_mo7s

Sue
Apr 1, 2008

Baby, you'll choose to
live in this complicated world
with me.



Robotnik Nudes posted:

Even thinking about a Sonjc Metroidvania makes me PHYSICALLY ILL

I wouldn't rule out the possibility of it working, if it went the route of Order of Ecclesia, instead of Symphony of the Night.

By which I mean: Find upgrades in later levels which unlock alternate routes when you replay earlier stages, instead of backtracking through a single huge interconnected hub.


Edit: vvv Right, the Mystic Melody. I totally forgot that existed.

Sue fucked around with this message at Aug 2, 2016 around 14:23

Paused
Oct 24, 2010


So... like Sonic Adventure 2? But 2D of course.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.

The Sonic Boom games for 3DS are metroidvanias.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013



I'm playing Sonic 2 HD on my Surface via Bluestacks and it's surprisingly good to play if you grip the tablet like a phone; the on-screen controls are large enough that I never miss a button press, plus the screen size is pleasingly huge.

GUI
Nov 5, 2005



Dabir posted:

Which fangame is it that unironically uses Metal Gear Rising's final boss theme in its own final boss?

This is a drat fine selling point for a fan game or any video game ever tbh.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzLWZA6vwhE
Yeah no just loving look at it.

YoshiOfYellow
Aug 21, 2015


WELCOME TO THE YOSHOCALYPSE


Chrono Adventure was basically a huge experimental piece by the creator please don't take it as a quality indicator of his other work. Before/After the Sequel are super good.

But yeah, I tried to play Chrono Adventure but it's just a little too weird and not that fun.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015






this is hilarious

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xt0zQFwqW0

Shadow doesn't seem to enjoy playing sports.

GUI
Nov 5, 2005




I'm glad I live in a universe where this exists.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012



Grimey Drawer

SeANMcBAY posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xt0zQFwqW0

Shadow doesn't seem to enjoy playing sports.

Sega DOES what NintenDON'T

Kulkasha
Jan 15, 2010

But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Likchenpa.


I always figured a metroidvania starring Knuckles would be good.

You're welcome, Sega

beep by grandpa
May 5, 2004



Kulkasha posted:

I always figured a metroidvania starring Knuckles would be good.

You're welcome, Sega

This actually sounds awesome.

sharrrk
Feb 13, 2012



they should bring back blaze as the secondary protagonist. that's my opinion

Evil Eagle
Nov 5, 2009



As long as silver becomes the main protagonist, sure

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Chat got your tongue?


I liked Blaze because she was cool and I liked alternate universe Sonic being a Cat. Shame what happened since her games.

Mikedawson
Jun 21, 2013

Gordon Ramsey was in tears. "This is the best meal I've ever had, who made it?"

The kitchen doors part, and out steps Sonic.


If just counting games, Blaze is honestly the best female Sonic character.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014



it's weird to me that there weren't more indie sonic-likes made. you got like a billion nes style platformers and metroidvanias but the only complete sonic-like game i can think of is freedom planet.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015





Unable to control my latest bout of Sonic ManiaTM, I decided to drop a couple bucks on the iPhone port of Sonic 2.
Holy poo poo this feels good to play. It's so smooth. I don't think I could ever go back to the old versions of this game.

This is literally the first time I have ever enjoyed playing a game using a virtual d-pad.

Augus fucked around with this message at Aug 2, 2016 around 21:57

LOCUST FART HELL
Mar 8, 2007



Grimey Drawer

blaze is one of the few characters added in the modern era of sonic that is really good and should stick around forever

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This user's endless pedantry is kept grey.

Key words: nutrition, philosophy, regulatory science, law, shallow realpolitik, fake cheese, game design fanfiction.

I don't like removing characters- I'd rather gradually adjust them until they're good. SA's adjustment of Amy Rose is probably an OK example of that, in that the character is at least a little better. Boom's treatment of the same character shows the end result. Dark Brotherhood is like the only exception.

Groovelord Neato posted:

it's weird to me that there weren't more indie sonic-likes made. you got like a billion nes style platformers and metroidvanias but the only complete sonic-like game i can think of is freedom planet.

The game's engine is tricky to copy, the design required is really demanding, and the fanbase is completely intolerable. A very small number of people have been able to completely finish a sonic-esque game project, be it a fangame or a commercial product, and not have it get torn to shreds. Almost the entirety of that list of people are now working on Sonic Mania.

Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at Aug 3, 2016 around 01:08

Viewtiful Jew
Apr 21, 2007
Mench'n-a-go-go-baby!

I think we mentioned Ken Penders too many times during all this renewed Sonic hype because he has risen again in the form of asserting his copyright against Archie and SEGA.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004



What a sad, sad man.

Viewtiful Jew
Apr 21, 2007
Mench'n-a-go-go-baby!

Actually reading further into it it looks like it's not entirely his doing, like at all. But he suspects he'll be involved because he spurred on some freelancers to take action a while ago.

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011



Sonic adventure 2 is my favorite sonic game and i thought heroes was ok (on gamecube i tried it on xbox later and it seemed way worse)

sharrrk
Feb 13, 2012



Elfgames posted:

Sonic adventure 2 is my favorite sonic game and i thought heroes was ok (on gamecube i tried it on xbox later and it seemed way worse)

Its my favorite too

Mr. Fortitude
Jul 9, 2010


Viewtiful Jew posted:

I think we mentioned Ken Penders too many times during all this renewed Sonic hype because he has risen again in the form of asserting his copyright against Archie and SEGA.

Viewtiful Jew posted:

Actually reading further into it it looks like it's not entirely his doing, like at all. But he suspects he'll be involved because he spurred on some freelancers to take action a while ago.

If Christian Whitehead represents the best of the Sonic fanbase, Ken Penders represents the worst. On what leg can he or his demented followers possibly stand on now that the comic went through a major reboot?

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.


Mr. Fortitude posted:

If Christian Whitehead represents the best of the Sonic fanbase, Ken Penders represents the worst. On what leg can he or his demented followers possibly stand on now that the comic went through a major reboot?

So Scott Fulop, who hasn't worked in years, founded a company like a month ago to trademark Mammoth Mogul, a character who was used up until the reboot, but not after that. And now he's decided to sue Archie for all the stuff they did in the past with his character. Because he and everyone else knows Archie has none of the original contracts (lost to an office fire) so they can say whatever they want about Archie ripping them off.

Onmi fucked around with this message at Aug 3, 2016 around 10:58

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008



Gravy Boat 2k

Would a judge recognize the bullshit for what it is and throw the case out, though? The ship should have sailed on getting these lawsuits in by now.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.


Shinjobi posted:

Would a judge recognize the bullshit for what it is and throw the case out, though? The ship should have sailed on getting these lawsuits in by now.

Who knows, he's citing "Thousands of cases of his work being used"



This is his work, he has done NOTHING since Archie. He's just looking for a pay day.

LOCUST FART HELL
Mar 8, 2007



Grimey Drawer

#11 Find the Computer Room! - Rexy
Shadow the Hedgehog - Cosmic Fall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGWPcbBX8zs

Mr. Fortitude
Jul 9, 2010


Onmi posted:

So Scott Fulop, who hasn't worked in years, founded a company like a month ago to trademark Mammoth Mogul, a character who was used up until the reboot, but not after that. And now he's decided to sue Archie for all the stuff they did in the past with his character. Because he and everyone else knows Archie has none of the original contracts (lost to an office fire) so they can say whatever they want about Archie ripping them off.

Yup. The worst of the Sonic fanbase. Hope the judge throws it out.

spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

Can I please walk my dog now?

The Lara-Sue chronicles

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007



The only thing I know about Mammoth Mogul from second-hand info is that he's immortal and at some point had the realization that he's immortal and Sonic the Hedgehog isn't so there's no reason he can't just wait until Sonic dies of old age and THEN take over the world.

Which, to be fair, is a pretty good super-villain plan.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.


ImpAtom posted:

The only thing I know about Mammoth Mogul from second-hand info is that he's immortal and at some point had the realization that he's immortal and Sonic the Hedgehog isn't so there's no reason he can't just wait until Sonic dies of old age and THEN take over the world.

Which, to be fair, is a pretty good super-villain plan.

He also decides to spend that immortal time running a casino and just loving with sonic but not actually doing anything illegal. Just full on "I'm going to have Sonic get angry, storm down to my casino, wreck the place, so he looks like a maniac and I look like a legit business man who just got ransacked. Why? Because gently caress Sonic."

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This user's endless pedantry is kept grey.

Key words: nutrition, philosophy, regulatory science, law, shallow realpolitik, fake cheese, game design fanfiction.

ImpAtom posted:

The only thing I know about Mammoth Mogul from second-hand info is that he's immortal and at some point had the realization that he's immortal and Sonic the Hedgehog isn't so there's no reason he can't just wait until Sonic dies of old age and THEN take over the world.

Which, to be fair, is a pretty good super-villain plan.

That's from after the new writing crew took over, and another example of why I have (weird, detached) sour grapes about them having to reboot everything.

Mr. Fortitude posted:

If Christian Whitehead represents the best of the Sonic fanbase, Ken Penders represents the worst. On what leg can he or his demented followers possibly stand on now that the comic went through a major reboot?

Ken Penders has, afaik, absolutely zero fans. The whole thing is just to maintain the IP grab and try to extort money from Archie/Sega.

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Augus
Mar 9, 2015





Don't forget the most important part about Mammoth Mogul

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