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Shadowlyger
Nov 5, 2009

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SupSuper posted:

No dogs in Sonic canon

There's one in the comic.

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nerdbot posted:



This is basically what the Shadow the Hedgehog is to me. He's a giant tryhard but very sincere about it.

The Archie comics quite simply nail the feel of Team Dark, see also: Omega and literally everything he does.

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Paused posted:

So long as it goes super to return to its home planet I'll be ok with it.

This is the most likely occurrence, given that this game, like Generations, involves Eggman doing time-fuckery.

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LOCUST FART HELL posted:

https://twitter.com/ShayMay_/status/871021866152075266

I always feel kind of sad when the (old) archie stuff gets posted because I grew up with an amazing Sonic comic that is more or less forgotten now, while that nonsense clusterfuck with a million echidnas lives on in the hearts of man.

Fortunately all of the Echidnas got erased from existence, so it's back to just Knuckles. Good riddance.

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Onmi posted:

That is definitely not Archie. But both StC and Archie Sonic had a horrible issue in making Tails... weird.

We don't talk about Titan Tails.

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RickDaedalus posted:



This is literally all I know about the Penders era.

And sonic comics in general.

I said we don't talk about Titan Tails.

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TFRazorsaw posted:

I don't think it's neccessarily time travel. I mean.

None of those characters have gone anywhere. They still exist in universe. They're all known quantities that Eggman can recruit, rebuild, or otherwise press into his service somehow.

What I'm seeing on TVtropes, at least, is that Eggman somehow punted Classic Sonic into the future, thereby removing him from history past that point. Without Sonic in the way, he was able to effortlessly take over the world.

Modern Sonic apparently managed to avoid being Rippled out of the timeline... somehow, but apparently nobody remembers him.

Again, :tvtropes: so, you know.

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Golden Goat posted:

"Please stop talking about the super emeralds, we don't give a poo poo anymore."

"We're going to keep talking about them until you give back Hyper Sonic."

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Ventana posted:

Shadow the Hedgehog - Mad Matrix. Specifically because of the Dark mission. gently caress that mission.

Jesus, gently caress that mission. I did it precisely once and it was like forty minutes of trying to figure out how to hit that one last goddamn bomb.

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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Unleashed attempted to solve that with super sonic speed, and even if it didn't get it entirely right, I nonetheless felt like I was playing as the fastest thing alive for the first time in years.

Hell yes. It took a little memorization, but after a couple goes you figured out the right paths and could just open the throttle for the entire level and that felt loving awesome.

I have never gotten that feeling from any 2D Sonic. Ever.

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Sebadoh Gigante posted:

One thing in forces they're definitely not going to fix before release is the bad music. Usually even if the game's bad at least the music's catchy, if cheesy, but this hoobastank song sucks. It's not "ironically good" or "so bad it's good" it just sucks.

Look at how bad your opinions are.

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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

There's also a new trailer for Forces


But yeah lol at the new music. I have a big dumb smile on my face, it's just so cornball

Oh my poo poo they got Liam O'Brien to voice Infinite. This is the greatest thing ever.

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Caidin posted:

So... is Sonic gonna cross over with the Ponies, Ghostbusters or TMNT first?




XavierGenisi posted:

transformers

All of the above. Simultaneously.

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ImpAtom posted:

We had that already.



That isn't Nazo...

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I'm gonna go ahead and claim Hulk Sonic.

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SeANMcBAY posted:

The way he pronounces it angers me.

That is how it's supposed to be pronounced.

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I liked the werehog stages, it was something a bit slower paced to break up the super high speed action of the day stages. I love those day stages, but having only that would get kinda tedious, I feel. Even Generations has the slower paced Classic stages.

I do wish that you didn't have to unlock all the combos, though. Just having the full moveset from the get-go would've been nice.

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Kikas posted:

I've been away for a week and oh my lord so much good info on Mania has dropped, can't wait to play the game sign me on the Super Sonic Hype Train.

The special stages in the early copies might have placeholder items tho, Super Emeralds pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase Sega

I believe someone recently asked them about the Super Emeralds and the answer was basically "They disappeared".

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SeANMcBAY posted:

Scratch's voice was the worst and made the show almost unwatchable. Long John Baldry was godly as Robotnik though.

Eggman has had many great voice actors.

Ha HA ha HAAAAAAAH

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nerdbot posted:

I've said it a million times in this thread but Flynn's run is great for the same reason Mania is great, it's Sonic comics done by people who completely and sincerely love this bizarre franchise for all that it is and will cram every story and every page with some fun little detail. If you like how all-encompassing the comics are it only gets crazier once people who have actually played the video games get on-board.

Stressing this. Flynn really gets all of the characters and he just writes them so well.

But also you should read through the Penders era just to see how batshit loving stupid it gets, so you can appreciate Flynn's writing more.

Shadowlyger fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Aug 13, 2017

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TFRazorsaw posted:

That's what Super Tails and Knuckles have always looked like, and Sega has been pretty clear that they want Super Sonic and the other hedgehogs as the only character whose super modes are canon and unique looking.

Ian Flynn talked about this once and it's why Turbo Tails and Hyper Knuckles stopped appearing after the reboot.


Then what was up with Overclocked Nicole? Cause that was definitely a super mode.

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Gammatron 64 posted:

Saying that only hedgehogs can go Super and trying to make Shadow into some kind of badass (lol) is so strange

Mainly because hedgehogs aren't exactly fierce, scary animals. Not unless you're an insect or a tiny lizard or something.

I dunno, the character that can, at a whim, turn himself into a sixty pound, bladed bowling ball that can carve through plate steel at mach 1 seems pretty fierce to me.

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corn in the bible posted:

The homing attack sucks

You suck.

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Keiya posted:

Aw, be fair. Shadow's writing is awful but in a charming way. Look at him! Look at him! He thinks he's edgy and cool :3:

Just let Ian Flynn write him, he's got that poo poo on lockdown. Literally any time they need Shadow for anything, just call Flynn.

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LOCUST FART HELL posted:

pretty hosed up that there's never been a dog character

There was in the Archie reboot. I mean, he showed up a grand total of once, but still.

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Linear Zoetrope posted:

Does the 100% LP of Shadow have to get all the route names? :getin:

Of course.

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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

Sonic heroes has a great intro stage.

Shame about literally everything else though.

What about Egg Fleet?

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Evil Eagle posted:

That's what I mean, he has like 10 different songs associated with him. Personally I'd like to hear a new take on throw it all away.

His theme will be all of his songs. At once.

Also, seems the wisps are mostly there to charge the Avatar's abilities, rather than what they did in the Colors.

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Augus posted:

I think I might actually hate Fist Bump

Imagine being this person. Imagine being so full of hate.

Don't be this person.

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Zelder posted:

Super Sonic above eggman form

nazo.jpg

And he was around years before DBS.

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Augus posted:

Make it a 3D platformer with momentum physics.

The character can accelerate from zero to mach 1 and decelerate from mach 1 to zero in an instant. The gently caress does he need momentum for?

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This is why Shadow is a villain in Forces.

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NecroMonster posted:

the thing is that the writers don't need to try very hard most of the time, and aren't going to try very hard most of the time, because it's for children

See also: Teen Titans GO, where the writers have unironically used this exact excuse for it being so loving bad.

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Screaming Idiot posted:

I, too, have Serious Opinions about children's cartoons parodying another children's cartoon. If only it had the literary depth of Adventure Time or Regular Show or My Little Pony!

I have literally never watched any of these shows. I've just gleaned that TTG's writers have actually used the "we're not even trying" excuse, on a show that fills like 90% of the network's time slots.

There's a reason I don't watch Cartoon Network anymore.

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Jim Silly-Balls posted:

EVERY👏3D👏SONIC👏IS👏BAD👏ALWAYS👏REMEMBER👏THIS👏

No matter how many times you say it it won't be any less false.

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Cryohazard posted:

I've played Forces at EGX. It's pretty good? Not going to change anyone's mind about the series, though- and the whole Original the Character thing is awkward but fun in its own right to play as.

You are going to want to tear your ears out during the team-up stages, though.

And we wouldn't have it any other way.

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XavierGenisi posted:

Yeah, but....what the gently caress?!

Why are they teaming up Sonic and Hooters of all things?! I could have imagined Yakuza and Hooters, *maybe*, but....why?!

I'm very surprised and very confused.

For this exact reason:

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Xad posted:

I don't know, a lot of people say poo poo like this but the games made by Sonic Team haven't been that bad since 06. Unleashed, Colors, Generations, and Lost World are all pretty great, the only one I didn't like as much was Lost World, but I wouldn't say it's bad. And Forces looks like it'll be Generations 2, so forgive people for not immediately making GBS threads on it. The classic Sonic levels weren't that amazing in Generations, either.

I actually liked the classic stages in Generations, which is crazy to me because I don't like most of the classic games.

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TFRazorsaw posted:

Ken Penders was brought up, asked if he was behind this. Only answer? “I don’t know who that is”.

The only appropriate response.

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See that headbanging? Eggman just can't bring himself to shoot someone who's rocking out that hard.

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