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Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
"The whole thing with that specific song — as well as several of the other songs — was their desire for a technical perfection that would have been easy in these days of computer editing but which, back then, we had to achieve manually. Lars's playing had to be extremely tight, and we did 20‑ to 30‑second segments with me punching in and out over 18 drum tracks. When we got a good bit, we'd sit and listen to it a couple of times to make sure it was cool, and if, say, one hi‑hat hit was a little late, I'd chop out a tiny bit of tape with a razor to make it exactly right. That was a long and tiring process, and whereas it would now take about half a day to complete one of those drum tracks, back then it took us a minimum of three to four days. For each song I had a big envelope full of bits of two‑inch tape that I had chopped out, and I remember joking to Lars that they should hold a competition for the fans, enabling them to win lost bits from his drum tracks... He didn't find that at all amusing.

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Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Drunken Baker posted:


Man, there's a live version of Creeping Death where Newstead sings and I know what tour period it's from, but years ago i had a version that was just spot-on perfect and I've never been able to find it since the Kazaa days. I've listened to pretty much every video on youtube so I think it was some home-made recorded thing that I stumbled across somehow.

I'm gonna go home after work and get drunk and listen to a whole shitheap of Metallica I don't do it nearly enough.

jason's vocals were the best part of their live show

considering their current financial problems he really got out at the best time

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

just cut to the good part

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8xjWINhT68

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Don Tacorleone posted:

Metallica has financial problems? last documentary I saw of them in 2003 shows them rotten with money

they lost a ton of money on the orion festivals and that stupid movie so basically they have to tour all the time and license their songs for commercials to keep their company afloat

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

rezatahs posted:

i had to look this up because i never heard of it and holy lol

so metallica tries to do their own festival but it isn't a metal/hard rock festival? these guys are just one terrible idea after another

:sad:

yeah the other part of it is they can't draw the guarantees they used to in america so they're basically stuck doing summer festivals in europe and 3rd world countries whenever they tour now

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Metanaut posted:

is Jason doing much better? I saw him play with his band Newsted ( :butt: ) in 2013. their own stuff didn't make an impression but it was worth checking them out to hear him do Whiplash


last i read he's doing an acoustic folk thing now, but he's basically set for life and can do whatever he wants

there was a great scene in the year and a half in the life of video where someone was making fun of him for taking sandwiches from catering back to his hotel room and his response was "i got plans for these millions and it ain't for loving sandwiches"

dude definitely knew the ride would end someday and prepared accordingly

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
sucks he didn't do more stuff like the ir8 vs sexoturica demo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPrqODWnUzc

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
anal oval office is better than pantera

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Don Tacorleone posted:

It's time to realize Metallica "owes"(money)

gimme fue

gimme fai

gimme $2500 off msrp and 0% interest for 6 months

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qz8YKlk3JU

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
jordison's okay by nu-metal standards but that's not saying much

metallica with a real drummer is interesting though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_Q5aO7xb1s&t=164s

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Don Tacorleone posted:

Is this why James was suddenly narrating a bunch of documentaries, are they really hard up for cash

the funny thing is he could ditch the rest of those losers today and become a gazillionaire as a country singer

maybe take the new bass guy because he seems chill and down for whatever

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIFeJU2HPmo

also he played every instrument on that track

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Don Tacorleone posted:

Caveman bass guy is cool

also kinda talented

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJqqC7TD1vw

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Crowsbeak posted:

Slayer is much better.

they ran out of ideas pretty quickly

divine intervention and undisputed attitude are kinda underrated though

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Don Tacorleone posted:

His garage days voice is probably top 10 Rock voices, it was all downhill from there

his voice has gotten better in the past couple years

he's singing more in his natural register instead of that strained yelping crap he's been doing since the 90s

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

symbolic posted:

i legitimately thought you were joking but



:stare:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MImaK0MDac

his quake 3 clan is called sailor scouts

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

hemophilia posted:

Yeah I only started liking anthrax in the last three or four years. I used to not get it, but they understood in their day what I'm only starting to understand: That metal, and thrash metal specifically, is loving silly and not a deathly serious matter for raining blood, ktulu's and sanitariums, and symphonies of destruction. Sometimes you just need to mosh and clap with one hand.

anthrax wrote more than their fair share of po-faced serious poo poo to counterbalance all the songs about comic books and stephen king novels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtD_GUvu-wc

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Chromatic posted:

Also, Dawn of the Angry by Morbid Angel owns bones. Haven't heard much else though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oidCSBMsaR0

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

redeyes posted:

I'm a huge thrax fan but yeah they have been playing the same loving show for a long long time. There are sing along parts. WHOA-OHA parts. Watching them is like watching a lovely cover band. Joey is a great vocalist but he is doing the operatic poo poo too much now. Oh well, they are old men.

The new lead guitarist guy is pretty great though.

they've only put out like what 3 albums in the past 20 years it's not like they have a lot of new material to jazz up the setlist with

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Apeshit Sixfingers posted:

Not sure about Creeping Death, but Newstead took over vocals when James threw a hissy fit one time for Seek & Destroy, and it's pretty drat great.

he sang seek and destroy during the black album tours, and a good chunk of whiplash too


hemophilia posted:

This actually sounds like they discovered a really old demo from the Kill Em All era. It's not as good as anything on Kill 'Em All, it just sounds like it's from that era but with better recording and james' modern vocal style.

it's almost note-for-note the main riff from the first song on the last album

Alec Bald Snatch fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Aug 18, 2016

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

That song has more St. Anger than Death Magnetic in it. Take that for what its worth.

I also love a bunch of the riffs on St. Anger even if the songs all suck so I am not unhappy.

12 songs over two cds it'll definitely share the 3 minute songs stretched out to 9 aspect with st anger

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
the single artwork is even better

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xui06jwWaAM

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
N*FLAMES

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

hemophilia posted:

dave's obviously a fuckin' spaz and the fact his butthurt produced some okay thrash metal in the late 80s is just a bonus to not having to have him in metallica

he's the biggest pissbaby on the planet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdE6gGuSV2A

david ellefson must be the chillest dude on the planet to put up with that guy's poo poo for 30+ years

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
there was a whole retro thrash revival thing a decade ago that's already petered out because thrash is creatively bankrupt as well

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Gaz2k21 posted:

That pretty much peaked with Municipal Wastes The Art of Partying

Although I maintain that Gama Bomb remain awesome

yeah municipal waste are definitely one of the high points of the whole thrash re-enactor thing

i kinda like iron reagan better though


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhiBDQF_0HM

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

hemophilia posted:

I miss james when he was a raging alcoholic and drug addict too.

We all do. We miss the days when metallica was in their 20s and 30s, and without children, and entirely capable of shirkin responsibility to society or their own family to get fuckin wrecked and make cool music.

Those days are over now Dan. So get the gently caress over it DAN.

if they tuned down a step like megadeth did it'd be a lot easier for james to sing without straining himself. everyone's natural register drops when they get older

funnily enough he wrote a lot of and justice for all in d but they couldn't get it to sound right on tape so they went back to e

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Laserface posted:

All their live stuff is played a step or two down. my band did it too because its way easier to play show after show (as a singer) when you're only hitting half your range than if you're playing it in E every night.

nah they've been tuning to e flat live since the mid-90s, but that was primarily so they didn't have to keep switching guitars between the load and earlier stuff

still too high for james' voice

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
here's a weird one though- slayer tuned to d for live undead where they re-recorded a bunch of show no mercy stuff that was originally in e

i wonder why they didn't stick with that instead of tuning back up to e flat for chemical warfare and everything after until the late 90s

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Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

gohmak posted:

For us that don't read music, wtf?

they started out with normal tuning, then tuned their guitars lower for a bit, then tuned them not quite as low later on

a lot later on they tuned even lower because they started listening to korn and poo poo but who cares because at that point they quit making anything worth listening to

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