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 US: 1 Soldier, 1 Supply Depot USSR: 1 Civilian, 1 Soldier, 1 Supply Depot Viy? Sailor Viy posted:I'm having trouble wrapping my head around the flow of the game, and the balance of power, but not in a bad way. The fact that (AFAICT) there's no way to directly attack each other makes it very interesting. It should become clearer once we're out of the setup phase. IME, things start to click around the first starvation.
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Aug 8, 2016 10:04
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Depot at G2. The first starvation phase will be the very first thing that happens after the setup, right?
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Aug 8, 2016 13:17
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Supply depot on G6. Almost ready to fight it out!
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Aug 8, 2016 14:52
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 US: 1 Soldier USSR: 1 Civilian, 1 Soldier Sailor Viy posted:The first starvation phase will be the very first thing that happens after the setup, right? No, actually. Each player gets one turn without a starvation phase. (Otherwise, Russia would be massively screwed.) So the game flow will go: Setup US Action US Doomsday USSR Action USSR Doomsday US Starvation (first starvation of the game) US Action US Doomsday USSR Starvation USSR Action USSR Doomsday US Starvation... (repeat until someone dies)
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Aug 8, 2016 19:41
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Ok, cool. I didn't see that anywhere in the rules when I was looking for it. Now I see it's in the reference at the end but I think it's not mentioned anywhere else? Anyway, give me a civilian at J5. Can't let those capitalist pigs get their hands on our supply depot.
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Aug 9, 2016 04:57
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What are you talking about, the rule is clearly on page...uh. It's... WHERE THE gently caress DID IT GO. Sorry, I must have deleted that when revising the instructions, and forgot to add it back in. I feel like a moron. Update shortly.
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Aug 9, 2016 06:31
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 US: 1 Soldier USSR: 1 Soldier Hobo, it's your placement.
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Aug 9, 2016 06:56
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Not a moron, that's just what playtesting is for 
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Aug 9, 2016 08:02
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The red menace must be contained.
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Aug 9, 2016 08:16
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Electric Hobo posted:Soldier H5. The red menace must be contained. H5 is not a valid placement. It is not on or adjacent to a blue starting point.
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Aug 9, 2016 08:29
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Oh right, sorry. Too busy planning to take out commies Put him at H6 then .
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Aug 9, 2016 08:34
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 USSR: 1 Soldier Viy, place your final soldier, and we can begin the apocalypse.
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Aug 9, 2016 09:02
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Soldier at H5.
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Aug 9, 2016 12:43
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 LET'S GET THIS WAR STARTED!  Cards are revealed! Active Card: Radiation to D7 & F1 Next Card: Radiation to G1 & G7, refugee to K2 US STARVATION: Skipped this turn. US ACTION: Electric Hobo, please take your four actions.
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Aug 9, 2016 21:01
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A question! If i attack this turn, what hexes are considered dirty? None?
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Aug 9, 2016 21:56
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Electric Hobo posted:A question! If i attack this turn, what hexes are considered dirty? None? All hexes adjacent to the ocean are dirty.
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Aug 9, 2016 22:14
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I think this makes sense. Soldier in F1 attacks enemy in F2. F1 is dead. Move guy in E1 to E2. Pressgang civilian in E1. Move him to F2. Pressgang civilian in E2. Move him to F3.
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Aug 9, 2016 23:00
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Looks good. US DOOMSDAY Radiation spreads to D7. F1 already has radiation. Radiation spreads to E1. (Only empty hex within one.)  Active: G1 & G7, refugee K2 Next: F7 & H1 USSR STARVATION Skipped this turn. USSR ACTION Sailor Viy, your four actions?
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Aug 10, 2016 03:09
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Using the stack at G2, threaten the unit at F2; move it to E2. With the same stack, threaten F3 and move it to E2. With the same stack, pressgang the neutral civ at G1 and move it to F2. Move one unit from G2 to F3.
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Aug 10, 2016 07:40
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Radiation and refugee placed. Active: F7 & H1 Next: A2 & K3, refugee F1 US STARVATION The following hexes are starving - E2, F1, G1, K2. Electric Hobo, please resolve starvation in these hexes. (You may also take your four actions, or you can ask for an updated map first. Your choice.)
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Aug 10, 2016 08:43
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Starvation: E1: 1 Goes to F2, 2 goes to F3. G1: goes to G2. F1: Dies. K2: Neutral defects to J2. Filthy USSR civilian dies. What about K4? Isn't there starvation there? If there is: One USSR civilian to J4, one to K5. I'd like an updated map before doing my actions. I'm having a hard time visualizing what I'm doing without it.
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Aug 10, 2016 11:47
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Right you are. Active: F7 & H1 Next: A2 & K3, refugee F1 US ACTION!
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Aug 10, 2016 21:57
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I've got a little question about starvation even though it doesn't matter in this instance and maybe doesn't matter ever? Electric Hobo says that at K2 the neutral civ defects to me, and then the USSR civ dies. My understanding is that the USSR civ must move first because all 'Flee' actions must be resolved before 'defect' actions. So the USSR civ would flee and the neutral civ would die. Is this right? The outcome is identical in this case but I think it would matter in situations where a starving unit has a choice of which side to defect to.
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Aug 11, 2016 01:53
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Sailor Viy posted:I've got a little question about starvation even though it doesn't matter in this instance and maybe doesn't matter ever? This is actually correct! And I'm sorry I missed it and didn't correct it. Was updating in a bit of a hurry.
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Aug 11, 2016 07:15
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Look at me making all kinds of mistakes. I just wanted that guy to die since I was in a bad spot H6: Soldier attacks enemy in H5, H7 is dead. H6: Pressgang neutral in G6, move him to H6. H6: Threaten J5, move a J5 guy to K5. H6: Threaten J5, enemy guy dies.
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Aug 11, 2016 09:49
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Electric Hobo posted:Look at me making all kinds of mistakes. I just wanted that guy to die since I was in a bad spot This is almost correct. However, the last threaten will not kill anyone. Like Move, Threaten can overstack a hex, so the last guy will still go to an adjacent hex of your choice. Threaten only kills a civ if all adjacent hexes are either Dead or enemy-occupied. Knowing this, do you still want to run this turn as is?
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Aug 11, 2016 10:20
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I actually did know that. My thought was "he'll die when he starves" and then I screwed up my order. Orders stand! Send him to J4.
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Aug 11, 2016 10:41
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Radiation spreads. Active: A2 & K3, refugee F1 Next: B5 & H1 USSR STARVATION USSR civ in J4 dies. USSR civ in K5 dies. US civ in H6 flees to G6. (No alternatives, so I'm auto-resolving.)  USSR ACTION Sailor Viy, your response?
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Aug 11, 2016 10:54
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Ahh, gently caress. Uh, I mean... starvation? What starvation? Anyone saying that USSR civilians are starving is clearly an American propagandist. My turn: Move the whole stack at F3 to E3. Move that stack on to E4. Move the whole stack at J2 to H3. Pressgang the civ at K4 and move them to J3.
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Aug 11, 2016 13:27
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Radiation spreads. F1 is dead, so refugee lands at F2. Active: B5 & H1 Next: E6 & J7, refugee H8 US STARVATION A2 - US civ dies. F2 - USSR civ dies. (Just gonna assume you'll take the enemy civ over the neutral civ, correct me if I'm wrong)  US ACTION Electric Hobo, you're up!
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Aug 11, 2016 20:51
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God drat, I feel sorry for that refugee who's gonna turn up at H8.
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Aug 12, 2016 03:49
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F4: Move to F5. F6: Move to F5. G6: Both move to H6. H6: 3 move to J5. Sailor Viy posted:God drat, I feel sorry for that refugee who's gonna turn up at H8.
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Aug 12, 2016 10:04
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Radiation spreads to B5, and spreads inland to H2. Active: E6 & J7, refugee H8 Next: C5 & K2 USSR STARVATION Oops. Look like they ate a guy in F5.  USSR ACTION Sailor Viy, do the murders. gutterdaughter fucked around with this message at 10:25 on Aug 13, 2016 |
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Aug 12, 2016 10:20
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I see now that i screwed up  Clean snow only holds 2 right? So my brave patriots in F5 are starving!
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Aug 12, 2016 10:32
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Looks like we seized the means of production just in time  OK, what I meant to say was Militarise in J3 and G2. Sailor Viy fucked around with this message at 12:24 on Aug 12, 2016 |
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Aug 12, 2016 12:17
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Radiation spreads. But in better news, a refugee gets some nice beachfront property for a screaming deal! There must be some kind of catch... Active: C5 & K2 Next: G1 & K4, refugee J1 US STARVATION Nope US ACTION Things are starting to look a bit grim, Hobo. But maybe some good old American know-how can still win the day? gutterdaughter fucked around with this message at 10:25 on Aug 13, 2016 |
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Aug 13, 2016 00:01
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It's admittably looking pretty bad, but maybe If I take a page from some Batman movie. Death by exile! J5: 4x threaten. K5 guys to L4, J4 guys to J3.
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Aug 13, 2016 08:33
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Radiation spreads. Active: G1 & K4, refugee J1 Next: B4 & E6, refugee B3 USSR STARVATION J3 - 2 USSR civs die (assuming you want soldier to live) K2 - 1 neutral civ dies L4 - 2 USSR civs die  USSR ACTION Viy, your response?
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Aug 13, 2016 10:31
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poo poo, I didn't realise my guys were quite that vulnerable down there  Pressgang civ in F2 and move them to F3. Move soldier from G2 to G3. Use E4 to threaten F5, move both civilians to E5. Doomsday phase, G1 is already dead, so I choose F2 to become dead.
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Aug 14, 2016 00:27
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Radiation spreads. Active: B4 & E6, refugee B3 Next: J1 & L4, refugee K7 US STARVATION F2 - USSR civ must flee to F3 or G2 J1 - Neutral civ dies  US ACTION Hobo, please choose the destination for the fleeing Russian, then take your four actions.
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Aug 14, 2016 03:39
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