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Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

I wonder if there's a country on earth right now that isn't going through the turbulent motions of a figurative bowel movement this year: Please let me know if there's more things to add to this list:

THE AMERICAS

United States: Increasing rise in shootings and massacres, the brewing of a new race war for a new generation, the high-stakes election with yours truly :trump: which shall decide the fate of the next decade or so, a bubbling student loan bubble crisis, etc.

Canada: Massive housing bubble in Vancouver/BC that's about to burst and collapse Canada's biggest market sometime soon. Otherwise smooth with Trudeau. :canada:

Mexico: Still dealing with cartels, living standards, corruption amongst law enforcement, as usual, etc.

Central America: Still dealing with grinding poverty and living standards, not to mention the Panama Papers.

Colombia: Actually very positive considering the disbanding/armistice of the FARC and crackdown on cartels this year. Still has high murder rates though.

Venezuela: Heavily suffering/imploding under the fallout of Chavez's demise and crackdowns/HMVs of Maduro's tenure, including water/electricity crises.

Brazil: Greatest Shitstorm South America has ever seen, in all terms of the phrase.

Peru, Chile, Ecuador: *Needs more information, wasn't there a quake in Chile again*

Argentina: Suffering from default fallout (?) and backlash from previous president's gaffes, blaming US for it's woes (?)

EUROPE

United Kingdom: Brexit, Boris Johnson and possible dissolution of Union. Enough said I think.

Ireland: Nothing that bad actually, I think.

France: Up to knees in Islamic terrorism creek without a paddle, upcoming heated election between unlikable left and fascist right.

Spain: Constant Catalan separatist woes, not sure on everything else.

Portugal: Mass unemployment, belligerence of the Troika.

Germany: Migrant refugee crisis and ensuing acts of terror, impact (?) of Brexit, threats to Merkel's hold on government, etc?

Austria: Undergoing redo of neck-to-neck tense election between Greens and neo-facists.

Italy: Eurozone related economic problems and woes.

Poland: Might get kicked out of EU for new government's unlawful, controversial fascist actions.

Greece: Tributary/Debtor state of Germany, massive unemployment, unrest and Troika belligerence.

Grouchio fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Aug 6, 2016

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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Grouchio posted:

Portugal: Nothing bad to my knowledge (who's laughing now Brazil?)

Mass unemployment, belligerence of the Troika.

Likewise Greece.

On the plus side Norway seems to be doing okay. Not great, but not awful.

You also missed Austria currently having a redo of their presidential election where the Green candidate is against the literal-Nazi-sympathising candidate and they're neck and neck.

Poland is also under threat of being suspended from the EU on accusations that the actions of the new government are unlawful.

Italy's having financial problems as well, although mostly Eurozone contagion.

Honestly there's more but that's the first few that popped into my head.

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
Is there ANY country in the world which can say "everything's going quite alright actually"?

I mean, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, etc, are all pretty good, but there's always -something- isn't there.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Sweden's undergoing a crisis between it's progressive demographic and the xenophobic demographic in light of the refugee crisis.

Switzerland likewise, to the point where they tried to pass a referendum allowing the government to deport native citizens if they were of foreign enough heritage.

Disinterested
Jun 29, 2011

You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

Tesseraction posted:

Sweden's undergoing a crisis between it's progressive demographic and the xenophobic demographic in light of the refugee crisis.

Switzerland likewise, to the point where they tried to pass a referendum allowing the government to deport native citizens if they were of foreign enough heritage.

There's a swiss canton where women got the vote later than my college admitted women undergraduates, which is to say, 1991. If it wasn't such a diffusely governed country it would make no sense.

tsa
Feb 3, 2014

Pochoclo posted:

Is there ANY country in the world which can say "everything's going quite alright actually"?

I mean, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, etc, are all pretty good, but there's always -something- isn't there.

So long as Hillary is elected the US is doing pretty well all considered. In fact its place as undisputed global superpower is more certain now than ever-- for all the problems the economy is very strong and everyone else is collapsing leading to a cycle of money fleeing to the safest investments which is pretty much now just the dollar.

As an aside for the op: shootings aren't up at all, that's just a perception from the saturation of social media and conventional media focus amplified by election year politics. There's certainly no evidence to support that police shootings have increased, rather they are just being recorded now. The 90's were certainly worse time for that: even though hard data is difficult to obtain you can guess how things were when tough on crime politics was at its heyday along with the crack epidemic in full swing. That doesn't mean it's still not an issue but media has hugely distorted the reality of the situation.

Finally I would strike any euro country from the list, the disintegration of European cooperation and/or the refugee crisis / constant terror attacks have and will continue to destroy moderate politics and economic prosperity for decades to come.

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013
Taiwan recently inaugurated its first female president she is a nice lady grouchio

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
lets get down to brass tacks here and address the real pressing issue - why is Andorra still a thing. its a bishopric, and no one seems to be alarmed by this. what gives.

Samuel Clemens
Oct 4, 2013

I think we should call the Avengers.

Pochoclo posted:

Is there ANY country in the world which can say "everything's going quite alright actually"?

I mean, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, etc, are all pretty good, but there's always -something- isn't there.

It's all a matter of perspective. Compared to Syria, just about every country in the world is doing rather well.

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.
https://twitter.com/CMGaldre/status/760309279144435712

This dog is having a bad time. I'm not sure where.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
My country is so poo poo.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
Andorra FACTS

- the word "Andorra" is thought to derive from a Celtiberian word meaning "the place where people go to hide money from their relatives"
- primary exports are irrelevance and drunk rich people
- primary imports are secret nazi gold, corporate shell entities, and sober rich people
- national pastime is cavorting for the amusement of swiss bankers
- head of state is a loving bishop


Fig 1.1 - A loving Bishop

- it is not angora, meaning no awesome rabbits, just rich people and serfs
- the only nation in the world where it is legal to whip your palanquin carriers
- skiing i guess, if youre into that

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
I mean technically the Vatican is a bishopric too. Bishop of Rome.

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

paranoid randroid posted:

Andorra FACTS

- the word "Andorra" is thought to derive from a Celtiberian word meaning "the place where people go to hide money from their relatives"
- primary exports are irrelevance and drunk rich people
- primary imports are secret nazi gold, corporate shell entities, and sober rich people
- national pastime is cavorting for the amusement of swiss bankers
- head of state is a loving bishop


Fig 1.1 - A loving Bishop

- it is not angora, meaning no awesome rabbits, just rich people and serfs
- the only nation in the world where it is legal to whip your palanquin carriers
- skiing i guess, if youre into that

you didn't mention the other prince of andorra, why??



e: also doesn't bisphoric sound like a type of acid? why is it not?

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

norway is pretty chill

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Jagchosis posted:

you didn't mention the other prince of andorra, why??



i put in as much effort as Andorra deserves

khwarezm
Oct 26, 2010

Deal with it.

tsa posted:


Finally I would strike any euro country from the list, the disintegration of European cooperation and/or the refugee crisis / constant terror attacks have and will continue to destroy moderate politics and economic prosperity for decades to come.

Brexit probably won't destroy the EU and Europe weathered much worse continent wide terror back in the 70s.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

khwarezm posted:

Brexit probably won't destroy the EU and Europe weathered much worse continent wide terror back in the 70s.

Terrorists were never as brutal and indiscriminate (this is the big difference here, the current brand of terrorist deems the entire population a potential target, not just a specific group) as they are now and over 200 death in 18 with 3 major attacks is not on the same scale at all.

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


paranoid randroid posted:

lets get down to brass tacks here and address the real pressing issue - why is Andorra still a thing. its a bishopric, and no one seems to be alarmed by this. what gives.

There's tax money that needs hiding, and Andorra's just the place to stuff it.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

RagnarokAngel posted:

I mean technically the Vatican is a bishopric too. Bishop of Rome.
Vatican City is essentially Catholic Disneyland, so im willing to make certain allowances for them if they want to have a Pontifex Mouse to prop up in a chair for tourists.

Woolie Wool posted:

There's tax money that needs hiding, and Andorra's just the place to stuff it.
well that what flippin' San Marino and Lichtenstein are for!! Andorras redundant and should be phased out.

khwarezm
Oct 26, 2010

Deal with it.

Kurtofan posted:

Terrorists were never as brutal and indiscriminate (this is the big difference here, the current brand of terrorist deems the entire population a potential target, not just a specific group) as they are now and over 200 death in 18 with 3 major attacks is not on the same scale at all.

That depends, incidents like the Bologna bombing edge up against Paris and Nice and were similarly indiscriminate. Additionally groups like the IRA launched much more frequent attacks over a very long period with the explicit intent of wrecking British security and economy but ultimately didn't send the UK spiraling into third world status.

In terms of total deaths it really was a lot worse in decades past. We'll still have to see if ISIS and the like can maintain their campaigns over the long run in the same way that ETA or the IRA were able to, their extreme brutality and relatively small base to pull support from along with the mobilizing of serious counter terror operations might make them more flash in the pan than they appear now.

khwarezm fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Aug 5, 2016

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.
update on my previous post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb3UrJjAac4

this dog is having a good time, the matter of how dogs are doing would seem to require closer investigation

punched my v-card at camp
Sep 4, 2008

Broken and smokin' where the infrared deer plunge in the digital snake
Subsaharan African continues to be a pretty mixed bag, reinforcing a trend where successful states are getting more successful and failing states are falling further behind. East Africa, aside from a terror problem in Kenya, is experiencing a period of political stability and consistent economic growth, while West African counties like Ghana and Nigeria are faltering in growth but solidifying their political stability. On the other hand, countries like South Sudan and the CAR are falling back into civil war and South Africa is stuck in a bit of a morass right now which is limiting growth in it's neighbors.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Is anything particularly poo poo happening in Japan?

And yeah IS terrorism is ugly, but it's not like we've not been through worse in Europe. The IRA and ETA make IS look like a bunch of fuckboys and they've got a long way to go before I'm impressed.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Mister Adequate posted:

Is anything particularly poo poo happening in Japan?

Shinzo Abe has done basically everything possible to rescind the apology of the 1990s socialist government who apologised for the crimes of Imperial Japan against the countries of the world and especially China and Korea.

He's also pushing to remove the pacifism clause from the Japanese Constitution that previously blocked Japan from using their military for anything other than self-defence. People have protested this very vigorously, including at least two (that I recall) self-immolation protests.

Also wage stagnation, declining birthrate, legal sale of paedophilic materials, continued televising of Naruto, still many hurdles for women in society - especially the workplace, economy circling the shitter but not necessarily the drain.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




khwarezm posted:

That depends, incidents like the Bologna bombing edge up against Paris and Nice and were similarly indiscriminate. Additionally groups like the IRA launched much more frequent attacks over a very long period with the explicit intent of wrecking British security and economy but ultimately didn't send the UK spiraling into third world status.

In terms of total deaths it really was a lot worse in decades past. We'll still have to see if ISIS and the like can maintain their campaigns over the long run in the same way that ETA or the IRA were able to, their extreme brutality and relatively small base to pull support from along with the mobilizing of serious counter terror operations might make them more flash in the pan than they appear now.

Same applies for shootings. The 'rising' numbers are still around half of what they were in the 1990s.

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN
I think one of the real places to watch at this point is Turkey. The situation with the Kurds was bad enough but with the recent coup and backlash the stability of the entire country is questionable at best.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Tesseraction posted:

Shinzo Abe has done basically everything possible to rescind the apology of the 1990s socialist government who apologised for the crimes of Imperial Japan against the countries of the world and especially China and Korea.

He's also pushing to remove the pacifism clause from the Japanese Constitution that previously blocked Japan from using their military for anything other than self-defence. People have protested this very vigorously, including at least two (that I recall) self-immolation protests.

Also wage stagnation, declining birthrate, legal sale of paedophilic materials, continued televising of Naruto, still many hurdles for women in society - especially the workplace, economy circling the shitter but not necessarily the drain.

At least it's not worse than usual then :v:

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Mister Adequate posted:

At least it's not worse than usual then :v:

Well there is a newish and rather gross one - maternity harassment. Wherein pregnant workers face discrimination because of their decision to have children.

Pretty ironic in a country facing demographic crisis.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

Sealand: Joan Bates died this year.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

khwarezm posted:

That depends, incidents like the Bologna bombing edge up against Paris and Nice and were similarly indiscriminate. Additionally groups like the IRA launched much more frequent attacks over a very long period with the explicit intent of wrecking British security and economy but ultimately didn't send the UK spiraling into third world status.

In terms of total deaths it really was a lot worse in decades past. We'll still have to see if ISIS and the like can maintain their campaigns over the long run in the same way that ETA or the IRA were able to, their extreme brutality and relatively small base to pull support from along with the mobilizing of serious counter terror operations might make them more flash in the pan than they appear now.

Easy to say when you haven't taken the full brunt of the attacks

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/04/world/middleeast/isis-german-recruit-interview.html?ref=world

edit: it's hard to get attached or involved in life anymore knowing there are thousands of people out there ready to snatch everything from you, in the most brutal and cruel way imaginable (I've read what the survivors said, believe you don't want to be stuck in a room for 3 hours with these people).

Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Aug 5, 2016

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Kurtofan posted:

Easy to say when you haven't taken the full brunt of the attacks

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/04/world/middleeast/isis-german-recruit-interview.html?ref=world

edit: it's hard to get attached or involved in life anymore knowing there are thousands of people out there ready to snatch everything from you, in the most brutal and cruel way imaginable (I've read what the survivors said, believe you don't want to be stuck in a room for 3 hours with these people).

Go get checked out for depression? You sound like you could use it. Especially as far as Britain is concerned the IRA caused several orders of magnitude more deaths than IS. (I might be wrong about you being British but I thought you were, anyhow)

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
Australia's going alright, the hung parliament was so successful that people voted it back in. Vote 1 political cryo-stasis.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Private Speech posted:

Go get checked out for depression? You sound like you could use it. Especially as far as Britain is concerned the IRA caused several orders of magnitude more deaths than IS. (I might be wrong about you being British but I thought you were, anyhow)

Im French

The IRA doesn't evoke anything to me, I'm sure they did bad things, assassinated a lot of people but at least they called before blowing poo poo up and weren't sadistic child murderers.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...s-a7173456.html

Lille Braderie cancelled this year

Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Aug 5, 2016

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Kurtofan posted:

Im French

The IRA doesn't evoke anything to me, I'm sure they did bad things, assassinated a lot of people but at least they called before blowing poo poo up and weren't sadistic child murderers.

Like the time they called people about a bomb they'd set at the top of a street, so the police gathered everyone to the bottom while the bomb disposal crew ran in, only for the IRA to detonate the real bomb at the bottom of the street?

They were not pacifist bombers.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Kurtofan posted:

Im French

The IRA doesn't evoke anything to me, I'm sure they did bad things, assassinated a lot of people but at least they called before blowing poo poo up and weren't sadistic child murderers.


Please don't try to salvage the reputation of the IRA.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

CommieGIR posted:

Please don't try to salvage the reputation of the IRA.
It was good they blew up English people, but we should never forgive them for being Irish.

Blow
Feb 10, 2004

rudatron posted:

Australia's going alright, the hung parliament was so successful that people voted it back in. Vote 1 political cryo-stasis.

Except for the four xenophobic, racist, vacuous One Nation senators being elected.

And maybe all the nice things we do to refugees may suck as well?

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
Climate change.

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Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
We're in quite a state indeed. Certainly no signs anything is going to actually get fixed or get better this year, anyways.

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