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Prof. Lurker
Mar 10, 2015

I've got the fire of human liberty!

I'm setting fires everywhere!

And humans are turning on everywhere!
like why is hillary a neoliberal and why is it bad. and why do leftist push all their angst towards it? thankyou in advance

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Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
its me bitch

BEAR GRYLLZ
Jul 30, 2006

I have strong erections for Israel.
Strong, pathetic erections.

it's like being a liberal, but newer

duh

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

the other n-word

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

read this https://www.amazon.com/Neoliberalism-Introduction-Manfred-B-Steger/dp/019956051X

a.lo
Sep 12, 2009

precious neoliberalism is going to starve us until revolution is the only option. That blood is on your hands.

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

BEAR GRYLLZ posted:

it's like being a liberal, but newer

duh

this, basically. 9 times out of ten, you can just replace neoliberalism with liberalism (or economic liberalism) and it probably is just as valid.

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
it's poo from my bhole

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
whatever it is it sure apparently seems to involve being slaves to the international moneyed elite who truly run the world....

Despera
Jun 6, 2011
Gotta support my fellow lizard people.

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

if you love the nwo let me hear you hiss

Mrit
Sep 26, 2007

by exmarx
Grimey Drawer
It's the bad thing, and those people who are against good things(i.e the things I like) are neoliberals.

TurnipFritter
Apr 21, 2010
10,000 POSTS ON TALKING TIME

Neoliberalism Evangelion

Despera
Jun 6, 2011

Zas posted:

if you love the nwo let me hear you hiss

"Great apes?" What's so great about them?

Ferdinand the Bull
Jul 30, 2006

Support for social liberalism tied to support for consolidation of capital by corporations and banks.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011

Ferdinand the Bull posted:

Support for social liberalism tied to support for consolidation of capital by corporations and banks.

Activate my trap card!

That's libertarianism bitch.

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

Despera posted:

Activate my trap card!

That's libertarianism bitch.

neoliberalism and modern libertarianism are mad similar in many areas of rhetoric because they are both heavily influenced by theorists like milton friedman. neoliberals are different to libertarians in that no matter what they claim in practice they actually generally want the state to expand, only with lots of things privatised

Despera
Jun 6, 2011

Farm Frenzy posted:

neoliberalism and modern libertarianism are mad similar in many areas of rhetoric because they are both heavily influenced by theorists like milton friedman. neoliberals are different to libertarians in that no matter what they claim in practice they actually generally want the state to expand, only with lots of things privatised

Expanding government while privitizing it. Love to see how that works.

Despera has issued a correction as of 04:19 on Aug 8, 2016

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

Despera posted:

Expanding government while privitizing it. Love to see how they works.

based on the last 30 years not very well

Despera
Jun 6, 2011

Farm Frenzy posted:

based on the last 30 years not very well

I think most countries would take our last 30 years

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

it's also about the use of market force regulations to accomplish social goals, as opposed to government based programs. it's pretty much classical liberalism.

they're also hawks and wnat to start wars

okay that's my earnest answer

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

what to heck neoliberalism

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Karl Barks posted:

what to heck neoliberalism

it's real bad

cams
Mar 28, 2003


Bip Roberts posted:

it's real bad
i think the bad parts of neoliberalism like power imbalance are bad while the good parts of neoliberalism like less wars are good.

beyond that i take it on a case by case basis!

polysynth
Dec 12, 2006

rock out

cams posted:

the good parts of neoliberalism like less wars are good.

Karl Barks posted:

they're also hawks and wnat to start wars

I dont know what the heck to think

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Mrit posted:

It's the bad thing, and those people who are against good things(i.e the things I like) are neoliberals.

this is what it actually is, though. Basically anyone on the left I don't like. You can tell because in that book linked the guy says it's the common ideology between loving THATCHER and Bill Clinton. It literally is just 'scary word means bad people' at this point.

Corek
May 11, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Tatum Girlparts posted:

this is what it actually is, though. Basically anyone on the left I don't like. You can tell because in that book linked the guy says it's the common ideology between loving THATCHER and Bill Clinton. It literally is just 'scary word means bad people' at this point.

Tony Blair was further left than bill clinton and he was even more neoliberal.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
ideology is for the bourgeoise who will be swept from society along with doctors and the literate

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

polysynth posted:

I dont know what the heck to think

the practical results of neoliberalism are fewer big wars with tanks and more 'interventionism' with death squads and ieds, is my impression.

of course neoliberalism's actual responsibility for that shift is mixed in with stuff like the cold war and mad and a million other things that arent strictly economic (sorry marxists)

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

Tatum Girlparts posted:

this is what it actually is, though. Basically anyone on the left I don't like. You can tell because in that book linked the guy says it's the common ideology between loving THATCHER and Bill Clinton. It literally is just 'scary word means bad people' at this point.

Sure, if you also believe that fascism doesn't have a useful definition because the word is thrown about by some, or neocon, or socialist etc. etc.

And yeah, Bill Clinton proclaimed the "end of big government" and an end to "welfare as we have come to know it", and delivered on welfare reform, along with a drop in government spending as a percentage of GDP, a drop in federal employees, financial deregulation...

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

seriously though neoliberalism is an actual thing, or confluence of things, that came about in the 70s and 80s with the ascendency of deng, thatcher and reagan.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
neoliberal, please

Despera
Jun 6, 2011

1.Capitalism?
2.Blowing poo poo up?
3.Gay Marriage

If you like the first two you are a republican
If you like the 1 and 3 you are a libertarian
If you like all of them you are a neoliberal.

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Despera posted:

1.Capitalism?
2.Blowing poo poo up?
3.Gay Marriage

If you like the first two you are a republican
If you like the 1 and 3 you are a libertarian
If you like all of them you are a neoliberal.

if you like 1 and 3 you're a liberal, though. what's the neo for.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011

Pinterest Mom posted:

if you like 1 and 3 you're a liberal, though. what's the neo for.

Aw you are cute

cams
Mar 28, 2003


really though "neo-liberalism" is as bad as "globalism" to explain a set of factors. it is a nebulous concept that will almost certainly vary in definition from person to person.

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

cams posted:

really though "neo-liberalism" is as bad as "globalism" to explain a set of factors. it is a nebulous concept that will almost certainly vary in definition from person to person.

perhaps the same could be said of all terms defining expansive political phenomena *turns into a bat and flies away*

Donovan Trip
Jan 6, 2007
It means I want to help the poor but also want to bomb other poors, get gay married and shoot machine guns

Donovan Trip
Jan 6, 2007
tbh it completely owns OP

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sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

echronorian posted:

It means I want to help the poor but also want to bomb other poors, get gay married and shoot machine guns

Sounds like a fuckin party

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