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TraderStav posted:You’re really making me jones for a rewatch, even though I just did my first time through a few months back. You'll want to eventually, there is a lot of fun foreshadowing that you missed. There are episodes without much, especially in season 1, but I think literally every episode has something foreshadowing in it that you probably didn't notice the first time.
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Yeah, I started watching towards the end of 2nd Season, and then when I was watching reruns I found out so much was foreshadowed.
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May 23, 2020 02:05
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Grand Fromage posted:You'll want to eventually, there is a lot of fun foreshadowing that you missed. There are episodes without much, especially in season 1, but I think literally every episode has something foreshadowing in it that you probably didn't notice the first time. I'm most of the way through s1 on a rewatch, and it's honestly quite underrated imo. The station feels so much more gritty and alive, Sinclair is way better and more interesting than Sheridan and even gives the impression of having had sex at least once, the space shots are better... the lows are pretty low tbf, but there aren't that many of them. i feel like later on there was a lot of gesturing - here's a room with some crates and a swirly light! DOWNBELOW! while in the first season they're kind of visibly excited to put some stuff on screen.
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May 23, 2020 02:24
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I do really like the vibe of the show before the main story arcs begin. When I rewatch I don't find any part of the show bad. Seasons three and four are certainly the best, but I don't think there's a bad run of the show, just a scattering of subpar episodes. You gotta get into the movies to hit truly bad B5.
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Grand Fromage posted:I do really like the vibe of the show before the main story arcs begin. When I rewatch I don't find any part of the show bad. Seasons three and four are certainly the best, but I don't think there's a bad run of the show, just a scattering of subpar episodes. You gotta get into the movies to hit truly bad B5. the gathering is bad but they helpfully concentrated the badness with extreme precision into not-ivanova and not-franklin. thirdspace i thought was fine, just a decent long ep.
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McCloud posted:The thing with Babylon 5 is that every episode has small little building blocks to the greater narrative. I don't think there's any episode that is safely skippable past season 1. It's like I said a couple months ago, watching Atonement: Vavrek posted:Callenn: "You would destroy the purity of our race!"
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TraderStav posted:I remember finding that to be a very profound episode. I loved it. When I showed it to my wife and we finished season 5, she immediately wanted to start over and go through it again (and we did). She had been pretty skeptical through season 1 and paid attention only in part, until it started getting truly consistently excellent.
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May 23, 2020 03:43
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Season 1 is much better seen directly after s5
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While I always liked this show, I actually drop/lost track of it somewhere in season 4 as it originally aired. I caught a few episodes here and there but never completed it. I recently did a full watch. Show’s good.
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McCloud posted:smug Mollari 
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That's more of a hopeful Mollari.
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Slamhound posted:While I always liked this show, I actually drop/lost track of it somewhere in season 4 as it originally aired. I caught a few episodes here and there but never completed it. I recently did a full watch. This short post was a rollercoaster to read because I was extremely concerned you didn't watch all of season 4, but then you confirm you did.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:That's more of a hopeful Mollari. I was tempted just to link Mollari's wikipedia page because he's naturally smug. He's Centauri after all.
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Bieeanshee posted:Wholesome Twitter thread: B5 characters reacting to COVID-19 lockdown. I'm a combination of Franklin and Elizabeth (who I don't think I've met yet). The overtime pay is great but goddamn is it draining, on the other hand my sourdough starter is amazing.
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ThingOne posted:I'm a combination of Franklin and Elizabeth (who I don't think I've met yet). The overtime pay is great but goddamn is it draining, on the other hand my sourdough starter is amazing. Lochley shows up in season 5.
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I read the Centauri prime books while doing my rewatch of B5, and man, Londo really got screwed hard. I just feel so sorry for the guy. Even though it was he consequences of his own actions biting him in the rear end, you can't help root for him, despite it all. It's made worse because you'd think Sheridan would have been able to piece together the honking big clues he got during his jaunt to the future and seeing the allies of the shadows flee Zha'Ha'dum. It's really a testament to how amazing a character Londo is that despite him getting a full karmic paypack you still end up rooting for him. [spoiler] Garibaldi totally stole the show (book?) though, despite only being in it for what, 10 pages? That oneliner is a killer Also up to almost midway s4 on my rewatch, and man, that bit with Marcus singing Modern major general until Franklin screams will never not be funny. Same for Sheridans poo poo eating grin after cucking incel lennier. Woohoo indeed.
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Vavrek posted:It's like I said a couple months ago, watching Atonement: Infection is definitely not skippable, the Big Bad Beetleborg is great
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:Infection is definitely not skippable, the Big Bad Beetleborg is great When they said "organic technology" that was not the organ they had in mind.
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McCloud posted:I read the Centauri prime books while doing my rewatch of B5, and man, Londo really got screwed hard. I just feel so sorry for the guy. Even though it was he consequences of his own actions biting him in the rear end, you can't help root for him, despite it all. It's made worse because you'd think Sheridan would have been able to piece together the honking big clues he got during his jaunt to the future and seeing the allies of the shadows flee Zha'Ha'dum. It's really a testament to how amazing a character Londo is that despite him getting a full karmic paypack you still end up rooting for him. Londo: thing is...He HAD to do all this. He found out the price and consequences but could not stop. He knew he was hosed all the way down the line. Oh god his whole arc is so nasty. Also the 'gift' to David Sheridan. Imagine screaming silently inside your body while your body is being controlled by a Keeper not being able to do anything? Londo is not about hubris. Londo is about where traditions, duty and honor can lead you in some bad combinations of the circumstances. He is the one who would love to just sit in his casino drinking and gambling. He did not want this. He did not want this at all... I love Londo. He is great. In fact, whole cast is great.
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May 28, 2020 09:09
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Poor Keffer. Everyone always forgets about Keffer.
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May 28, 2020 10:10
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lol wasn't that guy in the opening credits for season 2 he was barely a character
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Tighclops posted:lol wasn't that guy in the opening credits for season 2 Yeah I think JMS was pushed to have a hot-shot fighter pilot character in the series so they casted Seether from Wing Commander IV and he was shoe-horned in and given a role in the plot and then killed when the network wasn't looking.
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V-Men posted:Yeah I think JMS was pushed to have a hot-shot fighter pilot character in the series so they casted Seether from Wing Commander IV and he was shoe-horned in and given a role in the plot and then killed when the network wasn't looking. It was a good kill-off, though, and it didn't feel particularly extraneous. Keffer just didn't have any connection to the main plot and characters because as a fighter pilot he wouldn't move in the same circle as the executive staff. So we only ever saw him on missions and had no real reason to get to know him.
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Personally I think about Keffer, his credits listing and all that like he is the unsung hero who was the first one to actually deliver proof and main story actually starts with him. Plot device? Yes. Neatly executed plot device.
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AntherUslessPoster posted:Personally I think about Keffer, his credits listing and all that like he is the unsung hero who was the first one to actually deliver proof and main story actually starts with him. Plot device? Yes. Neatly executed plot device. I see what you did there
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Reading some old PC Zone scans on archive.org, the nostalgia   Several feet of shelf space and several hundred quid 
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May 28, 2020 12:44
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I paid $80/season for the original DVD set and didn't blink.
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NoneMoreNegative posted:Reading some old PC Zone scans on archive.org, the nostalgia Don't you loving @ me.  My sister owes her lifelong interest in SF to those videos. She came home from school one day aged around 7 while I was watching A Voice in the Wilderness and got really interested. She watched the the whole triple-bill tape, then watched the rest of S1, and that was that.
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NoneMoreNegative posted:Reading some old PC Zone scans on archive.org, the nostalgia Yeah, welcome to the 90s. The Entire Star Trek TOS/TNG/DS9 runs would have taken up a small room by themselves.
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:I paid $80/season for the original DVD set and didn't blink. I still have mine. On a shelf like three feet away as I write this.
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:I paid $80/season for the original DVD set and didn't blink. ConfusedUs posted:I still have mine. On a shelf like three feet away as I write this. Still got mine, though I got 'em massively on sale and paid like $15 per season for them.
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Doctor Zero posted:Yeah, welcome to the 90s. The Entire Star Trek TOS/TNG/DS9 runs would have taken up a small room by themselves. I always love telling the story of how my mom spent ages getting the Columbia House Star Trek video tapes in the mail and then the day we got the final episode of next gen we saw the first commercial for the DVD box sets on TV
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ConfusedUs posted:I still have mine. On a shelf like three feet away as I write this. I still have mine, even though I had to replace season 2 during the last watchthrough because of a bad disc. I did notice they're much cheaper now.
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I ripped off Wal-Mart and only paid $5 for each season. At the time (early 2000s) the Wal-Mart near me had a lot of the expensive DVD sets out in the open, not in a locked case. I would go to the discount "$4.99" DVD bin, where I knew the "ring up as $4.99" barcode was just a sticker over the original, and peeled it off and applied to the Babylon 5 set. After that first time, I just got some free barcode software, inputed in that UPC, and printed them off on generic sticker sheet and cut them out. I then would go in and only buy 1 set at a time. The trick was always choosing a register with an old lady who didn't know what DVDs were. After I got the 5 seasons, I got bold and started buying more of them, and sometimes Star Trek sets, to sell on eBay for like $60 (when they were going for like $80-$100 in store.) I stopped before ever getting caught, thankfully. And also soon after they started locking them up.
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Mine are on the shelf next to the "In the Beginning/The Gathering" DVD, the Crusade first pressing (before JMS pulled his commentary), and the Lost Tales. I am even willing to admit to owning a copy of the "Lady who punches things to shoot them" DVD. For a while I had the complete series taped off of TNT during the S5 period, but not knowing what compromises had been made in the widescreen version SciFi showed, I taped over every original episode with the widescreen versions.
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the good news is the limitations of vhs mean you didn't really lose that much
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NoneMoreNegative posted:Reading some old PC Zone scans on archive.org, the nostalgia I recorded the entire series off TNT in the 90s when they started showing them in the run up to S5 and then watched them every summer for a few years until I bought the DVDs. Now I can just watch it randomly on Amazon Prime. 90s kids thing being recording in ED on vhs so you can get 5 hours of tv rather then the standard 2 then carefully labeling 25 blank VHS with all the episode numbers and titles. I'm not gonna lie when it came time to pack up my old room I hesitated for way too long before agreeing to throw them away.
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I still have the Sci-Fi first broadcast tapes with the composition errors and Centauri teapot mistake as well as first pressings of everything B5 that came out on DVD because I’m a sucker like that.
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Midjack posted:I still have the Sci-Fi first broadcast tapes with the composition errors and Centauri teapot mistake as well as first pressings of everything B5 that came out on DVD because I’m a sucker like that. The what? Please explain for those of us who came to the show slightly later.
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