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if they had more time Kosh would have told him to do a flip
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I always liked the cut away on Z Ha Dum when Sheridan meets Lorien and its just a image of Sheridan floating in a black void with a giant ball of energy with tentacles holding him up.
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Of all of the non-arc episodes I think Convictions is my favorite. Londo being annoying in Medlab is very funny but Londo and G'kar being stuck in the elevator is the funniest stuff in the show's run. It's an obvious set up for two enemies working together but no, G'Kar realizes this is his chance to see Londo die. The little voice he uses to say "I hear you" as Londo is calling for help kills me.
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MassRafTer posted:Of all of the non-arc episodes I think Convictions is my favorite. Londo being annoying in Medlab is very funny but Londo and G'kar being stuck in the elevator is the funniest stuff in the show's run. It's an obvious set up for two enemies working together but no, G'Kar realizes this is his chance to see Londo die. The little voice he uses to say "I hear you" as Londo is calling for help kills me. I also love the callback to G'Kar's fishies-in-the-sea song.
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MassRafTer posted:Of all of the non-arc episodes I think Convictions is my favorite. Londo being annoying in Medlab is very funny but Londo and G'kar being stuck in the elevator is the funniest stuff in the show's run. It's an obvious set up for two enemies working together but no, G'Kar realizes this is his chance to see Londo die. The little voice he uses to say "I hear you" as Londo is calling for help kills me. We're in here!
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FFA is really hung up on Knives as being meaningful. It’s cute.
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Chevy Slyme posted:FFA is really hung up on Knives as being meaningful. Same for thinking Bureau 13 still has some relevance. When did JMS first talk about the whole video game issue and made it clear Bureau 13 wasn’t coming back?
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Zaroff posted:Same for thinking Bureau 13 still has some relevance. Not sure of dates but here's what he said: quote:No, the Bureau 13 rpg precedes our show; we weren't aware of it at the time we did the episode.
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Dec 8, 2025 17:53
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I'm pretty sure that was on the guide page by the time I started watching in late season 2.
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I do like imagining where the untrod paths of B5 would've led, but there's not much space in the show to shove an uncut subplot into if you're not totally restructuring the plot. Where would further Bureau 13 developments go? I guess they'd play a part in capturing and interrogating Sheridan, maybe cut into Bester's plot to have more evil stuff about Earthgov? Supplement Nightwatch with some funky stuff? Maybe they'd need Talia to come back so that she could have more personal investment.
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IIRC Bureau 13 was originally going to be the ones controlling Talia Winters. With Netflix buying Warner Bothers I've seen speculation that a reboot might be possible, but with Netflix's habit of doing 2 seasons of a show I'm not sure I'd be optimistic about that.
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Dec 8, 2025 20:42
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It'd be funny if JMS gets a greenlight on a 5 year plan, Netflix agrees knowing that they're only going to let 3 get published, and JMS secretly only ever planned on 3 seasons because everyone knows Netflix is poo poo on followthrough.
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3 seasons of 40 episodes each ought to do it.
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IIRC, more recently the writer behind the Bureau 13 stuff (DiTillio?) has said it was dropped more because JMS and him had a dispute where JMS accused him of creating his own mini-universe within B5's universe.
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:IIRC, more recently the writer behind the Bureau 13 stuff (DiTillio?) has said it was dropped more because JMS and him had a dispute where JMS accused him of creating his own mini-universe within B5's universe. That fits a little more closely with the vibe I got from the episode tbh. Sheridan: "I collect secrets". No you don't homie, you punch more advanced species right in the dick
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Gyrotica posted:That fits a little more closely with the vibe I got from the episode tbh. Sheridan: "I collect secrets". No you don't homie, you punch more advanced species right in the dick As JMS himself put it: JMS posted:Larry could be fractious, and I think he sometimes resented being brought on by me as a lieutenant. He was talented enough to be a show-runner on his own, and being constantly a second-in-command chafed to the point that he began carving out his own pocket universe in B5. He wanted to show that he could do what I was doing, which for me was never even a question, I just didn't want him doing it when I was trying to tell a story in a straight line in a way that no one had ever done before. But things became increasingly difficult between us, the friendship strained and broke, and we parted ways after season two. DiTillio's account is basically that he was basically ghosted by JMS during Season 2 around the time of Confessions and Lamentations which was, IIRC, supposed to be one of his episodes. I think JMS is kind of right -- DiTillio was basically telling his own stories, B13 et. al -- but he added a lot of texture to the universe.
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Yeah, it's kind of a weird situation. I agree it added some texture and I don't think that in and of itself is bad, but it wasn't super thoughtfully used. Show Sheridan as more than just a meathead, that's great but yeah the "I collect secrets" thing just rings false. I'm sure there's a way it could have been done but oh well I guess.
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neongrey posted:Yeah, it's kind of a weird situation. I agree it added some texture and I don't think that in and of itself is bad, but it wasn't super thoughtfully used. Show Sheridan as more than just a meathead, that's great but yeah the "I collect secrets" thing just rings false. I'm sure there's a way it could have been done but oh well I guess. It was especially funny because the follow up to it was Sheridan believing in the Coventry bombing conspiracy theory.
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Pantaloon Pontiff posted:With Netflix buying Warner Bothers I've seen speculation that a reboot might be possible, but with Netflix's habit of doing 2 seasons of a show I'm not sure I'd be optimistic about that. It wasn't solely his show as such but I'd wonder if Netflix would more remember that JMS was one of the creators of Sense8, a show so expensive that Netflix basically said "okay, no more of that" during their era where money existed on a theoretical level and was functionally limitless
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I think Sheridan as a closet conspiracy enthusiast works - it explains how he got mixed up with General Hague and the anti-Clark faction.
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