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Hey everyone, first time watcher here  Besides seeing a few episodes back in 90s I have not seen B5 properly, neither a full season or a story arch. I'm an avid trekkie, a proper SW fan and I am starting my watch. (only things I remember are Bruce Willis type of guy, a headpiece woman that grown hair and was 'reborn' as human and ferengi-ripoff-funny guy Mollari) It is also known to me that the show was really on a budget when it started 1x01 Midnight on the Firing Line -Mollari and nepotism among minbari, possible future plotline about his government forfeiting Ragesh 3? -Female president of Earth supposed back in 1993? Bold. Good. Like. -Diplomatics are shown almost exactly as it was in pre-internet era. Believable but naive at parts. Lets hope its for viewers' comfort. -Humans didn't change much but have ideals and ground they stand on. Probable nods towards Trek's Federation where almost everything was built on self-improving? Feels ENT trek btw, thou it came ten years later than B5. -Believable space combat, no sound as per then-contemporary theories. -Mars colony seems separate in politics from Earth. This is an interesting point. A great start, almost zero introductions, decent dialogue and several plotlines. Characters seem believable. Let's see what's next!
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Decided to write afterthoughts, not putting down every thing I seem important. Kills momentum of the episode. 1x02 Soul Hunter -Interesting tidbits about alien migration to Earth, a wee bit of character development with -Why only Commander can catch the ship? Brave commander is brave -Immortal race of soul hunters. Immortal race. Huh -Neat worldbuilding about Minbari mythology -Why did the Soul Hunter chose the poor cheating dealer's soul? I dunno if he felt his departure or took his soul? The Soul Sucking Machine™ by the end of the ep. seems big and difficult to setup, so they indeed can 'steal' a soul out of thin air? Hope this gets addressed or explained further -Satai Grey Council? Delenn is some high command with hidden motives? Hmmm she seemed nice tho. -Minbari (as a race) are on decline -Brave Commander is Brave again -Flying souls in balls -'We were right about you' huh 1x03 Born to the Purple -Women, wine and music! -I laughed at that G'Kar-Londo scene -Overall feels like a contemporary 90s spy movie with some good laughs and strong romance -Centauri worldbuilding and traditions, also neat character development for Londo -Although it seems in character for Londo to not have a family, this was surprising tbh for an Ambassador to not have one -Brain scan through ear, ugh thats nasty -Brave Commander is brave again -Very sweet character development for Garibaldi and Ivanova, her father death seemed very natural (for a serial that just started) and not enforced as a filler -Brave commander is cunning now! -Overall a positive, light and nice episode I like that every episode there is worldbuilding with proper explanations that don't seem out of place, nothing is shoehorned as-is. Everything seems important and related to the story, no fillers.
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Feb 29, 2020 10:28
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Will watch tomorrow-monday, finishing ep5 today, I hope. Ep4 was a blast not only as some action but as some answers to the questions I had in mind after watching first 3 episodes. This is neat. ps for the first time in a long while I'm really sad Sad that I got spoilered about who Sinclair is and will be for Minbari  Also that actor died 
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Feb 29, 2020 16:46
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How does it feel to use spoiler tags in almost 30 y/o show thread? Thank you for that  1x04 Infection -Oh c'mon Garibaldi, you have a promised drink with XO! -Worldbuilding and tidbits about xenophobia on Earth, how people saw B5 at the beginning. -They should have tried to smuggle the artifacts as-is, because only specialized med equipment showed that they are organical. Or was it to set up Nelson as a killer for easier introduction as 'bad guys of the week'? I guess latter. -The concept of organical machinery was not new, but for the first time on my memory it was so gracefully explained -More introduction/development of Dr. Franklin. He is good. Explicitly good. I dunno how to word it better. He knows what is right and suspects that something is wrong. Though he is tired and he doesn't notice it. -Nelson acts accordingly to how he was introduced. -Garibaldi gets what he deserved from the nosy reporter. lmao C'mon man you can do better! -Wonky SFX don't feel 'cheap', they feel very early 90's -One-off prosthetics are very good -Ivanova is badass -The main fight. Brave commander being brave again. I expected him (and dreaded this) to finish off Ikarran with airlock but instead he talked him out of it. This moment of mercy and understanding is what I hope to see more. If it's like that, I like it! -Trying to bribe your ex-student with large sums of money, we see the struggle and we can (maybe?) relate here a bit. But Stephen already did what was right - called the guard on his ex prof. -Garibaldi doing a lecture on bravery in our Brave Commander's actions. This is another thing early shown and early addressed. In-season pacing is cool. 1x05 The Parliament of Dreams -Nice character development and worldbuilding overall in this episode -G'Kar gets to trust his new assistant -Londo being Londo (I guess that's a thing now) -Decent worldbuilding on part of traditions here -Ou la la Commander gets his romantic interest back in game! Wonder if she stays for longer? Also more background for our Commander -What struck me the most was our 'Earth' representation in the end of the episode. I'm very non-religious person but this slow camera move along endless line of Earth representatives of different religions made me feel proud. Everyone is so different yet we all are together. Man that felt good!
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Feb 29, 2020 21:06
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This is an extensive show indeed! I I will write all down for sure, just want to enjoy it for now, so I'm not disappearing yet :P
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Mar 2, 2020 14:47
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:I’m a new watcher, few episodes into season 2. I know the reason they swapped out Sinclair, but... I hate Sheridan so far. His two emotions are “punchable smile” and “GETTING REALLY MAD AND SHOUTING FOR NO REASON!!” He’s just a horrible generic military man who is bizarrely combative when talking to people. Does this guy become less of a dick later on, or am I supposed to like him? I really liked Sinclair, he was chill and calm and didn’t keep spouting inspirational quotes. Hahah totally 100% agree here man. Which brings me to a thing. I've devoured up to s3 and cannot stop watching to write stuff down in a post. Send halp ps watching other sci-fi shows shows how better story in B5 is, good continuity and all that stuff. Makes watching modern stuff almost unbearable.
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Mar 6, 2020 17:40
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Data Graham posted:Been working my way through The Expanse and it's pretty chewy. Can't believe there's no thread for it. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3906760
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Mar 6, 2020 20:37
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Imagine being onboard on one of 90000 corporate megaships sent out before ftl was invented
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Mar 7, 2020 19:35
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Season 5 feels like a slog after s4 finale. I feel good for Lando finally. Really posting so I can find my post where I stopped the episodic watch-through. Longbaugh01 posted:Played a round. Interesting little game with interesting decisions to make. Having scored multiple games north of 11k I think you can do way better. A simple and very interesting game. Thanks to whoever suggested it.
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Mar 14, 2020 11:09
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5x18 Did you ever hear the tragedy of Lando Mollari the Posessed? I cried.
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Mar 16, 2020 18:12
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This...this hits harder than I thought. Way too close. More than just a very good show coming to an end. Did we do good in our lives, did we manage to achieve something? Was it all worth it? Will this all ever matter to someone other than just yourself? I'm having an existential crisis now. They did good on closing it all down. All arcs (major ones) finished, but its just a beginning of another journey. Although they might have chosen to save B5, buy it, also what happened to Epsilon 3 and many other questions...Like if G'Kar & Londo really happened that one day and why, what happened to G'Kar himself, Lyta? Oh... Now I have to summarize it all and write down in form of short episode reviews. Erulisse fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Mar 17, 2020 |
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Mar 17, 2020 00:21
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:absolute lmao at when they go into bay 13 and see the vorlon ship which is composed of about 3 pixels orcane posted:The early CGI is easily the worst part of the show. The Vorlon ship is especially hilarious. Lets take it 'how it was' (how I did it):  vs contemporary 'high-budget' 3D game  I think Vorlon ship is beautiful.
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Mar 17, 2020 17:43
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sebmojo posted:man, the gathering is actually fairly pimp, takashima and dr guy aside. it's amazing to watch after seeing the entire series. I couldn't No, really. I can live with phaser-like remote controls for guns. I can live with sketchy communicators. But maaaan. Minbari makeup DELENN WTFUUUUUCK
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Mar 28, 2020 15:32
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:Alright weird question that’s been bothering me, why are so many characters seen specifically ordering or drinking water at the bar? Garibaldi makes sense, but also Talia specifically asks for it and the doctor guy only has a glass of water in at least one scene. Was there some kind of restriction on what could be shown on TV? Is everyone an alcoholic? (Or am I just overthinking this) Water is not very abundant on the station, most of it is recycled so...Drinking water is a status symbol of sorts too. sebmojo posted:tracked down the jms comments on delenn in the pilot. That's a fair point but her appearance was so appalling in the pilot. Though it would play out nicely with the whole 'after war' premise. Erulisse fucked around with this message at 09:20 on Mar 31, 2020 |
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Mar 31, 2020 09:17
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Fell Fire posted:But, wouldn't virtually anything else be even more rare? Beer/spirits would need to be shipped in, unless those monks also brewed some, and that process would use up a lot of water. Fruit juices would be similar, given that arable land is so limited they can't even grow coffee legally. CainFortea posted:They're talking about ordering fresh bottled water, not the recycled water. At least, that's the impression I always got. Yeah the bottled water. Like, $19,99 per cup of whiskey in a bar with a 0.5l bottle of water being priced the same. Recycled
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Mar 31, 2020 22:54
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_force That's how the artificial gravity works there btw
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Apr 25, 2020 15:52
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Babylon 5: living the Thomas Jordan life https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Thomas_Jordan or Babylon 5: fear of the Babylon Curse
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Apr 28, 2020 12:12
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This page was a wild one to readJeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Andreas Katsulas is dead, and so are my dreams, what more could go wrong? gently caress's sake you're so right
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Apr 28, 2020 22:17
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gently caress these hoarders. The dedication is what's lacking. There are fully complex and complete B5 models of everything from shuttle to the stations in different game's mods as early as Freelancer, so it honestly just a matter of picking a game with a strong scripting engine, digging out the mods and filming the scenes.
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May 4, 2020 13:30
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Yup that's what I'm talking about. If some guy has all of the files needed for a homemade remaster and can prove it, fans could fund his new pc for the job. But if all the files are in hands of some dick who will hold onto them until they eventually die from mountain dew overdose and files get lost in the history then the only way is to custom-make the sequences anew, be it unity or a game with mods. Boils down to dedication to B5 and free time. No doubt it will be a great work for a low outcome but that's what fans are for 
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May 4, 2020 14:29
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Well, Lennier is in unanswered love with Delenn and DOc has stim addiction and that thing that sent him travelling the universe so all of them are tragic in a way
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May 18, 2020 20:20
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Hot take - it was minbari grey council behind b1-b3 because they needed that 4th for prophecies to come true
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May 20, 2020 09:56
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McCloud posted:smug Mollari 
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May 23, 2020 07:46
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Absurd Alhazred posted:That's more of a hopeful Mollari. I was tempted just to link Mollari's wikipedia page because he's naturally smug. He's Centauri after all.
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May 24, 2020 14:14
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McCloud posted:I read the Centauri prime books while doing my rewatch of B5, and man, Londo really got screwed hard. I just feel so sorry for the guy. Even though it was he consequences of his own actions biting him in the rear end, you can't help root for him, despite it all. It's made worse because you'd think Sheridan would have been able to piece together the honking big clues he got during his jaunt to the future and seeing the allies of the shadows flee Zha'Ha'dum. It's really a testament to how amazing a character Londo is that despite him getting a full karmic paypack you still end up rooting for him. Londo: thing is...He HAD to do all this. He found out the price and consequences but could not stop. He knew he was hosed all the way down the line. Oh god his whole arc is so nasty. Also the 'gift' to David Sheridan. Imagine screaming silently inside your body while your body is being controlled by a Keeper not being able to do anything? Londo is not about hubris. Londo is about where traditions, duty and honor can lead you in some bad combinations of the circumstances. He is the one who would love to just sit in his casino drinking and gambling. He did not want this. He did not want this at all... I love Londo. He is great. In fact, whole cast is great.
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May 28, 2020 09:09
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Personally I think about Keffer, his credits listing and all that like he is the unsung hero who was the first one to actually deliver proof and main story actually starts with him. Plot device? Yes. Neatly executed plot device.
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May 28, 2020 11:36
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Spoilers are bad, even more for B5, where everything referenced or said during earlier episodes has an impact later and is not forgotten. The religions scene had such an impact on me that I honestly couldn't stop watching and ended up binging. Otoh it led to me watching while working and doing home stuff so I actually don't remember s2 that well. Also introduction of sheridan might have led to partial amnesia
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Jun 3, 2020 10:05
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The avalanche has already started. It's too late for the pebbles to vote...
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Jun 3, 2020 18:41
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Dont anyone of you DARE say 'citizen G'Kar' in that newb thread!
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Jun 5, 2020 15:45
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McCloud posted:Londo s5 spoiler and beyond Thank you. You just brought peace to this citizen. Oh god I love Londo.
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Jun 5, 2020 22:06
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Gdi Im looking at my vague first watch notes on pieces of paper I never posted and laughing. (still very sorry never posted) These guys are doing it right, let them be as is. Let them enjoy Their "wrong" opinions and misunderstandings will make later revelations far better than separate explanations now. 
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Jun 8, 2020 10:53
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CainFortea posted:I really wanted to like the star gate tv shows but I couldn't. Ok will do. It just sounded like he wasnt listening while watching Or not paying attention at all.
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Jun 8, 2020 15:14
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Just make sure no one will make a mistake of binging the show without writing it down. I still don't remember what s2 was about besides sheridan's dumb 'good luck speech' and the magic life force transfer guillotine but am looking forward to comparing my notes with what they will see.
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Jun 8, 2020 16:04
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I rewatched BSquared, it was my fault all along. Sorry. Oh god I get the point now.
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Jun 8, 2020 16:18
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Doctor Zero posted:What did you say? To be quoted exactly 'Either my english sucks more than I though or you should rewatch the episode'. Because of calling vorlons 'zorlons' (oh cmon!) and the whole 'to the future' point. Vorlons were mentioned quite some times already. 'The future' is in this episode only, while the whole B4 ordeal is to send it to past. My memory got rewritten with whole Valen thing. And 'the point' being really seeing the whole show through the newbie's eyes. I thought it was just a way of saying but indeed what it is. A blind watch through someone's eyes. Erulisse fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Jun 8, 2020 |
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Jun 8, 2020 19:29
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Just prohibit anyone but blind watchers to post there and direct them here when they finish, right to page 137
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Jun 9, 2020 09:41
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Jedit posted:the hidden messages on the Arrivals boards The what fandom wiki is not helping either Erulisse fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Jun 9, 2020 |
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Jun 9, 2020 10:03
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:I think that's needlessly restrictive and will make that thread just 2-3 people speaking into an echo chamber. It's really not hard to be both engaged and circumspect, just think before posting. Jedit posted:The issue with that being how so much is foreshadowing. Also, if we start happily talking about things that aren't relevant, we will draw attention to the things we are pointedly not talking about. So basically 'if you feel an urge to comment, just comment only about what pebbles saw and mentioned and not a letter more. No explanations or explications, even vague ones'. Doctor Zero posted:
Thing is, what Kosh says becomes crystal clear after the watch. It is a spoiler for us but until a person reaches certain moment in series its all cryptic. To act like this will require from all posters a great sense of cooperation and thinking alike. Also telepathy would help in this case buuut...ugh. No one is a Kosh among us. We are all Kosh.
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Jun 9, 2020 13:32
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McCloud posted:
Can't wait to see a line like 'pompous caricature of a picturesque army man that screams american ancestry' after ep 1. Oh man I hated him dearly for a few episodes. ps to not be misconstrued, I hated his character depiction, it was almost as a bad joke compared to Sinclair's character Erulisse fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Jun 11, 2020 |
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Y'all ranting about technomages yet y'all seemed to like the ubertech healing guillotine ps vorlons vs shadows neither are 'good' or 'bad' per se. They represent two polar opposite approaches to racial development for same goal. Vorlons are cooperative evolutionary approach and shadows are a conflictory (is that even a word?) competitive 'survival of the fittest' approach. It was said almost straight in some Loriel-Sheridan convo afair both vorlons and shadow lack any sense of morals and other kinds of philosophical fast food. They will do what it takes to do their thing. What are even morals if you are eternal and immortal and you have poor funny talking idiotic animals running around you biting each other. They will loving kill each other for a piece of bread, why care. You have a set goal to achieve, you use all possible resources period. Erulisse fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Jun 19, 2020 |
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