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We watched A Call to Arms last night and, other than the music and being a pilot episode, it was way better than I thought I remembered. Turns out I hardly remembered it at all. It's totally decent and I like Galen a lot. I remember liking him in Crusade too, but I don't remember much else about it.
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2017 19:26 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 00:58 |
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Yeah.... It's not the same show without Christopher Franke. It'd be like watching Star Wars without (at least someone vaguely emulating) John Williams. If it were in a similar vein maybe, but Chen was just way out there.
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2017 00:04 |
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did you drink zima whilst doing so?
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# ¿ Dec 18, 2017 19:40 |
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ConfusedUs posted:Comes the Inquisitor is an unskippable episode. It is incredibly important to both Delenn and Sheridan's characters and the looming Vorlon/Shadow conflict. Wayne Alexander. Same actor as the Drazi ambassador, Lorien, and like a dozen bit parts. Basically a regular cast member, just not often as the same character.
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2018 20:07 |
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Once you've watched the show through a few times, you can pick him out even in all the different alien prosthetics he gets into.
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2018 21:04 |
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Narsham posted:OK, getting increasingly confused by the "Wayne Alexander was the Drazi Ambassador" conversation. I'm pretty certain (and IMDB states) that the only Drazi Wayne Alexander played in B5 was the one in Intersections in Real Time. Alexander played Lorien, Sebastian, G'Dan, and of course the Drahk leader. Whoooooops, lol. I knew he did a Drazi now and then and the ambassador seemed like he fit the bill.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2018 01:24 |
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I like all of the episodes. Even the bad ones.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2018 17:20 |
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I will buy the rights to it for $1. Whoever sells it to me will get credit for a profit and therefore a success. Going once, going twice....
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2018 15:54 |
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Luigi Thirty posted:He said that the VFX elements were rendered at 2K to film for the archival masters. O my God, please please let this happen. I have goose bumps just thinking about it. And my eyes are beginning to tear up.
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# ¿ May 17, 2018 14:38 |
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Luigi Thirty posted:He said that the VFX elements were rendered at 2K to film for the archival masters. I mean I get the politics angle recently discussed, but if this is the case, why have we been suffering all these years with the apparently LD-sourced upscaled vfx on the DVDs? Just for the widescreen? Why has no one just straight up transferred these high quality masters I never even knew existed until now for a Blu-ray or even an updated DVD release? That seems like easy money to get a whole bunch of nerds like me to re-buy them, because I totally would even if they stream an HQ transfer, because our rural 4G internet is not completely reliable.
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# ¿ May 17, 2018 19:02 |
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Not to mention, at 2k, cropped and upscaled vfx shots for a widescreen transfer really wouldn't look that bad, if they wanted to put juuuust a little more work into it....
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# ¿ May 17, 2018 19:05 |
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Doctor Zero posted:Supposedly because nobody at WB thinks anyone would buy it and they just keep ignoring JMS.
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# ¿ May 18, 2018 13:26 |
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I never play the lottery, so your chance is as good as mine.
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# ¿ May 18, 2018 14:02 |
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Doctor Zero posted:Quite honestly I think a B5 reboot is a bad idea. I think it was everything all falling mostly into place at the right time that made it magical. I’d be more interested in making sure JMS could do whatever he wanted with it from now on. It is a bad idea. I said it in the OP but it bears repeating: you could not make a show like B5 today. It's too earnest; it gets dark without cynicism; the characters are flawed but still undeniably Big drat Heroes. Buuuut then The Orville happened, so I don't know anything. No, I'm not saying that's in the same league, or that all my reasoning applies in the same way, just that in some ways it's a throwback that I wouldn't have thought could possibly happen or succeed in 201X.
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# ¿ May 19, 2018 04:09 |
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I could dig that. I haven't seen Lost in Space yet but my wife has seen a bit of it and said she thinks it's ok so far. Maybe I'll give it a chance after all.
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# ¿ May 19, 2018 04:58 |
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Yeah. Ideally I'd like a camera-negative widescreen transfer remastered with cropped scans of the VFX portions of the 35mm master in the vault, even more than a hypothetical VFX upgrade or whatever. A pristine version of essentially what's on the DVDs. I'd sure take a simple 4:3 HD transfer of that master though.
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# ¿ May 22, 2018 19:59 |
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That said, a new widescreen transfer from the camera negatives, coupled with cropped/zoomed effects from the 2K 4:3 master, should be good enough even for Blu-ray. I doubt it'll ever happen because of the expense, so a straight transfer of the master in 4:3 is the best we are plausibly ever going to get, and I'd be happy with that.
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# ¿ May 25, 2018 21:15 |
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Jedit posted:I'm pretty sure Infection doesn't introduce organic technology; the Vorlons have it, and I think we're told as much in the pilot. Wait, we're arguing which episodes to skip and now you're saying watch The Gathering??
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2018 13:40 |
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2018 22:23 |
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I watch it every time. Edit: I should probably add this is not a recommendation for anyone else to do the same. I've lost count but I think I've been through the complete series at least 6 times. Winifred Madgers fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Jun 11, 2018 |
# ¿ Jun 11, 2018 22:14 |
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Vavrek posted:Best time is after you've decided to give the show a fair shot, whether because friend or family has recommended it to you, or because you've seen a few episodes and liked what you've seen. Takes place a year or so before the first episode, and (unlike ... what was it called, thread, In The Beginning?) was actually meant to be watched before the first episode. Aired like a year before the first episode, too. In The Beginning, yes, which should definitely not be watched in the beginning unless you 100% do not care about spoilers at all. B5 telegraphs a lot of stuff so that's not as big of a concern as with some shows, though. Also, yeah, no, The Gathering is unequivocally bad, and I say this as a completionist who always watches it. It has redeeming qualities, but its main function is to help the jump in quality into season 1 relatively shine.
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2018 04:14 |
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Narzack posted:Is there a spoiler-free B5 thread for us first time watchers? No, but if you'd like to discuss it as you're watching, please feel free to make one and link it in here so we can follow; I always enjoy newbie impressions.
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2018 15:16 |
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I had a lot more sympathy for Winn when I watched through DS9 recently, which I didn't expect. After she settled down into the Kai role and began doing actual good things like the peace treaty with Cardassia, and before her turn at the end, she was a lot more nuanced than I remembered. Yeah, she was still an antagonist and not a fun person for the crew to deal with, but they also gave her a lot of unnecessary grief at times (especially Bashir one time that I recall explicitly) that kept the antagonism going, it was definitely a two-way street a lot of the time.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2018 18:25 |
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The Minbari, or at least Delenn, seem to quasi-worship the universe itself. She talks occasionally about sapient beings being made out of the universe both materially and spiritually, in the sense of ourselves as emergent/splintered consciousnesses as a manifestation of the universe trying to understand itself.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2018 22:17 |
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mllaneza posted:Try the "this show is why Game of Thrones was able to be made" angle. a point against it imo.
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2018 17:16 |
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On the subject of season 5, I envy anyone who has more B5 to watch for the first time.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2018 19:22 |
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Groetgaffel posted:I saw close to 30 new posts in this thread since last I checked and feared someone had died. Babylon 5: I saw lots of new posts and feared someone had died.
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2018 20:36 |
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Appreciating the new thread title.
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2018 17:38 |
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Yeah there was some discussion of that in here a while back. I'm really trying hard not to get caught up in false hope.
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2018 18:00 |
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Parts Kit posted:Forgot how great of a scene it is when (Season 3 You can usually just leave it here and be fine tbh.
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2018 02:02 |
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I not saying leave off the spoiler tags; I'm more saying any given scene in season 3 is likely to be great.
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2018 03:48 |
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Timby posted:Except for O'Hare's departure. God drat do I hate Bruce Boxleitner. I can understand preferring O'Hare, but... huh?
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2018 12:54 |
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Pick posted:I am so tired of apologizing for stuff in life, Babylon 5 is awesome and it's rad. It's really good, & I am proud to like it. Or at least totally at peace with liking it. I've never apologized for it in my life. I might make a caveat for the potential viewer about the way it's solidly rooted in the '90s, and set expectations about the style of acting and whatever. But it's unironically my favorite show of all time and I don't foresee it being surpassed.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2018 21:41 |
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Pick posted:Woah is this thread relatively new or something? I'm surprised, I looked through my post history in it and there's a lot less than I expected. Yeah let's make it fuckin clear, Babylon 5 is my favorite show (and my parents' favorite show) and that will be true forever and ever. amen. I posted the OP 2 years ago almost to the day. If you'd asked me and I had to answer without checking, I would've said it's even newer than that, but then I remember I did change my username a couple months before the 2016 election, so that makes sense. It just doesn't seem like that was that long ago, either.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2018 22:14 |
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Tighclops posted:because of this show I am permanently unable to remember which way longitude and latitude go for me it's paralysis when zipping and buttoning my pants. which first??
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2018 13:21 |
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I said come in! posted:Are Sinclair and Valen the same people? The same person, singular, yes.
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# ¿ Aug 13, 2018 04:51 |
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Kurr de la Cruz posted:Does the music get any better? That's really the only cringey part to me. Wow, this is like the wrongest opinion in the history of everything. Edit: I guess I don't remember the first season music as especially different, although most of the best music is probably yet to come.
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2018 17:47 |
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Do any shows even do an opening theme anymore? Pretty much everything has just like a sting over a logo anymore I think. I guess The Orville does a theme, maybe that will be updated.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2018 02:25 |
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V-Men posted:Voltron Legendary Defender's theme is stuck in my head. If you mean network TV, I have no idea. Person of Interest had a theme song, with narration describing the premise of the show. Yeah, Person of Interest came to mind after I posted that. I haven't watched a lot of current shows lately so my sample size is probably skewed. I was thinking more in the vein of Lost, Agents of SHIELD, Once Upon a Time. Now that I post that it seems like it's more just a thing on ABC.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2018 14:38 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 00:58 |
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Sanguinia posted:I've been marathoning through this show for the first time in almost 20 years since I saw it airing on TV as a wee lad. Even though I didn't fully get it, this show was one of the most formative pieces of fiction for me growing up. Boy does it hold up despite some obvious flaws... until Season 5. I'm going to take a moment here and be a little contrarian. B5 isn't generally about bludgeoning the viewer with black and white - the Shadows are given their say, the Vorlons prove to be not much better, and all of the individual characters have flaws and virtues - even Bester has moments of genuine humanity. Lochley's devotion to military discipline and the chain of command is both a strength and a weakness. You've covered the weakness part, but it's her loyalty and rock-solid commitment to duty that gets her the job, and the fact she chose the wrong side doesn't make those qualities any less admirable. I don't think you're supposed to take her, or any other character in isolation, as unequivocally "good." There's a continuum and she's not really at one end or another, she's just as human as the rest of us. She's more there to make the viewer uncomfortable as she comes in and skewers the new status quo, and gives a voice to those on the wrong side, to humanize them as well.
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# ¿ Sep 18, 2018 18:23 |