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Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

Moey posted:

Really, x399 AMD? Couldn't stay with your own naming convention.

They completely copied Intel naming design.

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underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
If i was amd I'd take every opportunity to gently caress with intel

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


underage at the vape shop posted:

If i was amd I'd take every opportunity to gently caress with intel

Same. I think it's great. And the 90s style naming for chips. They really DGAF.

Scholtz
Aug 24, 2007

Zorchin' some Flemoids



Is this the proper order/orientation for an AIO cooler mounted to the top of the PC? Or should I be taking cold air from the outside and blowing it down through the radiator into the case?

Shrimp or Shrimps
Feb 14, 2012


Scholtz posted:



Is this the proper order/orientation for an AIO cooler mounted to the top of the PC? Or should I be taking cold air from the outside and blowing it down through the radiator into the case?

What about if you mount the rad on the front to intake cool air, and exhaust hot air out the top?

rage-saq
Mar 21, 2001

Thats so ninja...

Scholtz posted:



Is this the proper order/orientation for an AIO cooler mounted to the top of the PC? Or should I be taking cold air from the outside and blowing it down through the radiator into the case?

Indiana_Krom
Jun 18, 2007
Net Slacker

Scholtz posted:



Is this the proper order/orientation for an AIO cooler mounted to the top of the PC? Or should I be taking cold air from the outside and blowing it down through the radiator into the case?
The difference between the two options is likely less than the measurement error, so just pick whichever one is quieter.

Scholtz
Aug 24, 2007

Zorchin' some Flemoids

Yeah looking around more, I'm gonna blow cold in from the top. Noctua fans in a fractal case so the noise shouldn't be too bad

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




Scholtz posted:



Is this the proper order/orientation for an AIO cooler mounted to the top of the PC? Or should I be taking cold air from the outside and blowing it down through the radiator into the case?

You want what's in the picture. Since heat rises on its own, you want the radiator mounted as such to get a little more help for free. The added bonus is your motherboard should also run a bit cooler this way.

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Watch this: https://youtu.be/xNAMxZgvves

Scarecow
May 20, 2008

3200mhz RAM is literally the Devil. Literally.
Lipstick Apathy
So I got my Threadripper build finally finished (for now) and im running at:

4.1ghz 1.385v
3200Mhz 14-13-13-28-42
2 Sli 1080tis @ 2076Mhz core

measured from the Vcore pinout my Zenith board has and only hitting over 60c when I run prime95 ( cpu hits 310W :staredog: )

Also getting some sick mad 3Dmark scores in Firestrike like this one :
30K
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/22326827

still need to work on getting Pstate clocking to work but so far im really happy with the build besides one thing....the loving thermaltake fans ARE loving GARBAGE DO NOT BUY THEM HOLY poo poo AHHHHH
Thermaltakes garbage software flat out does not work on the threadripper platform atm, I had to plug my loving laptop into the controller to change the loving fan speed and RGB colour and im looking at if I can return them as gently caress this what a joke

anyway here are some photos

only just fits a 170mm PSU + cables behind the 360mm rad in the bottom


starting the filling process


thank you jesus it POSTed


Final color setup


Still need to finish setting up the Aquareo software and get some custom cables for the gpus as the stock ones are just terrible looking

BurritoJustice
Oct 9, 2012


Awesome, it really came together. I think some custom cables with combs are the only thing missing. Have you tried running it passively under load? You have so much rad space and huge reservoirs that I imagine it could sustain impressive loads without the fans running at all.

I'm just getting in the final parts for a loop now myself. Nothing aesthetic or performance focused, just for silence. I have a windowless Phanteks P400s that I am stuffing a 280mm and 120mm radiator in. Using plain black looks with a focus on reliability and low maintenance silent computing. The whole thing with EK blocks/fittings/tubing, a DDC pump, and nemesis GTS rads only set me back $380 AUD total for CPU + 2 GPU with full cover blocks. I'll probably run it passive at idle and as low fan speed as possible that keeps the water at safe levels under load.

Scarecow
May 20, 2008

3200mhz RAM is literally the Devil. Literally.
Lipstick Apathy
yeah the plan is to have everything power down to basically off when not needed once I work out how to setup the Aquaero software right, tho the garbage thermaltake fans are currently loving up that plan and im looking at replacing them with EK fans with phantek led covers

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.
Whats your issue with aquaero? Ive been using it for a bit and can try to help.

BurritoJustice
Oct 9, 2012

Scarecow posted:

yeah the plan is to have everything power down to basically off when not needed once I work out how to setup the Aquaero software right, tho the garbage thermaltake fans are currently loving up that plan and im looking at replacing them with EK fans with phantek led covers

I'd recommend trying out the Corsair ML fans. I have two MLs in my computer and they have the nicest acoustics of any fan I've ever used. They don't match up with Vardars for CFM/SPL but they totally lack bearing noise and they sound really smooth and pleasant. I'm going to compare them with my Vardars on the radiator when I get it all built, waiting on a radiator coming in from America (I simply had to have a cross-flow rad for how easy it makes tubing runs). I've got a fancy studio mic that could record the difference.

They've got white blade non-LED ones that you can put frames on easily. I personally stay away from everything thermaltake makes for liquid cooling, due to their propensity to put aluminium flow channels everywhere like loving morons. They've been putting out way more interesting cases recently though.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.
I didnt like the ML's at all. They had some odd higher pitched noise and had to return them.

Sidesaddle Cavalry
Mar 15, 2013

Oh Boy Desert Map

I really like the idea of planning a loop such that no bent tubing runs are required. Great work!

Scarecow
May 20, 2008

3200mhz RAM is literally the Devil. Literally.
Lipstick Apathy

Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:

I really like the idea of planning a loop such that no bent tubing runs are required. Great work!

Yeah no bends is nice but holy poo poo piss the cost of fittings, im too scared to really look at how much i spent on them

BurritoJustice
Oct 9, 2012

Don Lapre posted:

I didnt like the ML's at all. They had some odd higher pitched noise and had to return them.

My first set one of them had the high pitched noise. It was incredibly poo poo and irritating, but the second set I exchanged them for don't have it at all. It was a sound just from the bearing and it seemed due to damage or something faulty. It seems it's a problem that some of them have out of the gate.

Now that I have fully working ones they're fantastic.

rage-saq
Mar 21, 2001

Thats so ninja...

BurritoJustice posted:

My first set one of them had the high pitched noise. It was incredibly poo poo and irritating, but the second set I exchanged them for don't have it at all. It was a sound just from the bearing and it seemed due to damage or something faulty. It seems it's a problem that some of them have out of the gate.

Now that I have fully working ones they're fantastic.

I have some ML120s for my rad fans, they sound way better than my Vardars at the same RPM, especially around 850rpm where the vardars and GTs have a bit of bearing noise.
Also, their review on thermalbench.com show they even outperform Vardars and GTs in CFM/noise by a considerable amount, first 120mm fan design to do that since the GTs were released over 10 years ago.

Scarecow
May 20, 2008

3200mhz RAM is literally the Devil. Literally.
Lipstick Apathy
So im going to be returning these stupid loving Thermaltake fans.

I'm looking at ether EK or corsair

Corsar:
140mm
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/36037/corsair-ml140-140mm-premium-magnetic-levitation-fan-twin-pack
120mm
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/36032/corsair-ml120-120mm-premium-magnetic-levitation-fan-twin-pack

EK:
140mm
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/39979/ek-vardar-evo-140er-white-2200rpm
120mm
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/40046/ek-vardar-evo-120er-2200rpm-fan-white

with these over the top
120mm
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/40366/phanteks-halos-120mm-rgb-led-fan-frame
140mm
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/40368/phanteks-halos-140mm-rgb-led-fan-frame

im thinking the corsairs but I really want to be sure this time as holy poo poo what a pain in the rear end this is

BurritoJustice
Oct 9, 2012


I own both and can happily say Corsair ML all day long. They are greyish blades however so they won't be as clearly lit with the frames as the EK fans I think. The MLs just sound so drat pleasant.

Also hey, :australia: water-cooling buddies. Just got a big pile of fittings from PCCG today myself.


E: make sure you're sending a proper pwm signal to ML fans, the bearings are totally incompatible with DC/voltage control and 3 pin headers

BurritoJustice fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Sep 27, 2017

Scarecow
May 20, 2008

3200mhz RAM is literally the Devil. Literally.
Lipstick Apathy
PCCG do have a really good selection of pc parts but their warranty team can be giant cunts at times so I'm expecting them to be sooks about me returning these thermaltake fans but gently caress the idea of having to RMA the controllers to get them to work on AMD motherboards

as for the grey yeah they wont pop as nice as the white EKs the ML's look to match the build better with the black frames

rage-saq
Mar 21, 2001

Thats so ninja...

BurritoJustice posted:

I own both and can happily say Corsair ML all day long. They are greyish blades however so they won't be as clearly lit with the frames as the EK fans I think. The MLs just sound so drat pleasant.

Also hey, :australia: water-cooling buddies. Just got a big pile of fittings from PCCG today myself.

Seriously the ML120s hands down beat Gentle Typhoons and Vardars (a remade GT clone that competes right on with a GT). They are insanely great.

Scarecow
May 20, 2008

3200mhz RAM is literally the Devil. Literally.
Lipstick Apathy

rage-saq posted:

Seriously the ML120s hands down beat Gentle Typhoons and Vardars (a remade GT clone that competes right on with a GT). They are insanely great.


now thats the Pro versions, will the standard MLs do jsut as well?

rage-saq
Mar 21, 2001

Thats so ninja...

Scarecow posted:

now thats the Pro versions, will the standard MLs do jsut as well?

They are the same, the Pros are all black and come with the built in rubber dampeners. I have 6x standards on my rads.

Scarecow
May 20, 2008

3200mhz RAM is literally the Devil. Literally.
Lipstick Apathy
just hope that not having the rubber dampeners wont mean they are louder

rage-saq
Mar 21, 2001

Thats so ninja...

Scarecow posted:

just hope that not having the rubber dampeners wont mean they are louder

I've got a Corsair 900d with my rads in the bottom, the fans are basically right up against the side of the case that I would be able to hear. They don't rattle at all, they are very well balanced.

Scarecow
May 20, 2008

3200mhz RAM is literally the Devil. Literally.
Lipstick Apathy
Ha well guess we will see how i go when I get 12 of the bloody things

BurritoJustice
Oct 9, 2012

Scarecow posted:

PCCG do have a really good selection of pc parts but their warranty team can be giant cunts at times so I'm expecting them to be sooks about me returning these thermaltake fans but gently caress the idea of having to RMA the controllers to get them to work on AMD motherboards

as for the grey yeah they wont pop as nice as the white EKs the ML's look to match the build better with the black frames

Yeah PCCG support is garbage, they blatantly don't give a poo poo about the Australian consumer laws and have told my mate to take them to small claims if he wanted a refund for his GPU that wasn't depreciated. I usually use Mwave or Umart because they're both 10 minutes drive away. I've only dealt with Mwave support, they're slow but they always accept returns no hassle in my experience.

I only bought from PCCG because they have fittings that no-one else keeps in warehouse stock and I didn't want to wait for Mwave to ship them from Slovenia. I really wish we had a good big retailer that specialised in water cooling as it's a real pain to get specific fittings.

Scarecow
May 20, 2008

3200mhz RAM is literally the Devil. Literally.
Lipstick Apathy

BurritoJustice posted:

Yeah PCCG support is garbage, they blatantly don't give a poo poo about the Australian consumer laws and have told my mate to take them to small claims if he wanted a refund for his GPU that wasn't depreciated. I usually use Mwave or Umart because they're both 10 minutes drive away. I've only dealt with Mwave support, they're slow but they always accept returns no hassle in my experience.

I only bought from PCCG because they have fittings that no-one else keeps in warehouse stock and I didn't want to wait for Mwave to ship them from Slovenia. I really wish we had a good big retailer that specialised in water cooling as it's a real pain to get specific fittings.

I'm really hoping it wont come to that but gently caress if i have to I will take them to VCAT (which is the place you would take something like this not small claims) as this is a clear slam dunk win with how the ACCC defines a major issue with a product

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

BurritoJustice posted:

Yeah PCCG support is garbage, they blatantly don't give a poo poo about the Australian consumer laws and have told my mate to take them to small claims if he wanted a refund for his GPU that wasn't depreciated. I usually use Mwave or Umart because they're both 10 minutes drive away. I've only dealt with Mwave support, they're slow but they always accept returns no hassle in my experience.

I only bought from PCCG because they have fittings that no-one else keeps in warehouse stock and I didn't want to wait for Mwave to ship them from Slovenia. I really wish we had a good big retailer that specialised in water cooling as it's a real pain to get specific fittings.

Report that poo poo to the ACCC.

E: All Australian computer retailers try to skirt the law but the ACCC don't give a gently caress, they just fine them into submission. I've never had an issue with an Australian operating company once I name drop the ACCC/relevant ombudsman, you might have to go up a few supervisor levels until you get someone who realises how hosed they are if they refuse a refund.

underage at the vape shop fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Sep 27, 2017

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

rage-saq posted:

Seriously the ML120s hands down beat Gentle Typhoons and Vardars (a remade GT clone that competes right on with a GT). They are insanely great.


2200-3000 range?? My fans run at 200rpm 99% of the time, I've yet to see them go above 1000 even when I was doing benchmarks in the summer. :v:

rage-saq
Mar 21, 2001

Thats so ninja...

Truga posted:

2200-3000 range?? My fans run at 200rpm 99% of the time, I've yet to see them go above 1000 even when I was doing benchmarks in the summer. :v:

That's just a picture from the selection of "comparable" fans, not the rpms tested.
The fan kills it at all ranges, read the review it's quite detailed.

Scarecow
May 20, 2008

3200mhz RAM is literally the Devil. Literally.
Lipstick Apathy

underage at the vape shop posted:

Report that poo poo to the ACCC.

E: All Australian computer retailers try to skirt the law but the ACCC don't give a gently caress, they just fine them into submission. I've never had an issue with an Australian operating company once I name drop the ACCC/relevant ombudsman, you might have to go up a few supervisor levels until you get someone who realises how hosed they are if they refuse a refund.

Also remember if your in victoria or the shop is in victoria your point of call to raise a issue under the accc is VCAT

Fees to arrange a hearing are cheap and for issues like not following the consumer laws re refunds/returns its a slam dunk in your favor

BurritoJustice
Oct 9, 2012

My mate makes excessive amounts of money and he figured his time was worth more than the two hundred bucks. He did report it to VCAT though, don't know how that followed up.

BurritoJustice
Oct 9, 2012

Gonna cross post this from the GPU thread.

Now I know that there are fan adaptors for graphics cards that let you use the GPU's fan controller with case fans, but does anyone know if LED adaptors exist? All NVIDIA reference GPUs use the same two pin connector for the included LEDs. I want to be able to adapt some 3mm leds to the 2 pin connector so that I can control the LEDs in my waterblocks with NVIDIA's software. Am I mad or is this a thing that just doesn't exist?

Scarecow
May 20, 2008

3200mhz RAM is literally the Devil. Literally.
Lipstick Apathy
So does anyone know if you can control the brightness of the leds on the corsair ml150 pro led edition fans or are the just set to be on max 24/7

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.
They are a set brightness.

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Scarecow
May 20, 2008

3200mhz RAM is literally the Devil. Literally.
Lipstick Apathy
Ok well lets hope the ml120 ml140s with out the rubber mounts are ok

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