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Theophany posted:Have you considered the EK MLC Phoenix system? I've found it works great and is significantly less loving around than a custom loop. I'm considering a lot of stuff - will take a look at this as well. I've built almost this entire build out of open-box and ebay stuff to keep it relatively affordable while not sacrificing much performance, and I may be able to get an EKWB combo pump/res/rad/3 fans/fittings for $100 or so this week so kinda starting there. Is the Phoenix system much different then just upgrading from a 240mm AIO to a 360mm - beyond the option to add in stuff to the loop later on?
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skylined! posted:I'm considering a lot of stuff - will take a look at this as well. I've built almost this entire build out of open-box and ebay stuff to keep it relatively affordable while not sacrificing much performance, and I may be able to get an EKWB combo pump/res/rad/3 fans/fittings for $100 or so this week so kinda starting there. It's pretty much that, but affords you somewhat easier expandability/upgradability over time by linking everything together with QDCs. You could of course do that with a custom loop, but when I costed up doing a custom loop vs the EK MLC modules it was cheaper and less hassle. If you're looking to create something pretty however, the MLC is probably a non-starter.
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Jun 24, 2019 08:26
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I uh, decided to do a cpu/gpu petg loop. Pray for me.
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skylined! posted:I uh, decided to do a cpu/gpu petg loop. ALL IN  Soft tubing is much easier for a beginner, being far more forgiving. PETG is definitely easier to work with than acrylic, though, if you're going for hard tubing. And if you're really going to get into this hobby, you gotta learn to bend tubing eventually, right? You're going to get leaks on your first try. It's just part of the learning curve. Dumb question: I've abandoned my PCIe riser setup for vertically mounting the GPU. PCIe risers are a pain in the rear end and have caused me some problems. So I'm going back to card-in-slot. But in this orientation, I think SLI looks better because you can put a nice terminal front-facing on the GPUs. Example:  However, I don't want to actually do SLI. SLI is dumb and wasteful. So I'm thinking of plugging in an old card in as if it's SLI and just leaving it disabled. (would have to find a compatible block) Even better would be not plugging in its power cables at all. My recollection is that PCs freak out when you try and boot with GPU power not plugged in. Will this be the case on a secondary graphics card, can that feature be disabled, and are their any issues that might arise from doing this?
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What options do I have for a solid AIO for a Ryzen 3800x or 3900x build in a couple of weeks? What brands should I look at, and what should I shy from?
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Deuce posted:ALL IN My first (and current) build was all PETG, but I cheated by doing all the bends with fittings. Honestly I think it looks better as well, but that's a matter of taste. Also I had no leaks, first try, I must be a water cooling god 
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Both soft and hard tubing can look great, and horrible. It all really depends on the layout as well.
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Hit my first snag. Thought all my stuff would be here today. The gpu waterblock arrived and it doesn’t fit my card - guess i ordered the wrong one. Making a trip to micro center tomorrow.
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Welp after a few fuckups I finished the loop and it has come to life. Pretty happy with the thermal results, but I hosed up a few things - didn't install the CPU block on the right RGB header so now I have to hope a firmware update will work or the CPU block doesn't get to get all lighty-uppy, and I bumped the pump while testing for leaks initially and spilled coolant everywhere. Good times! I also didn't install a valve to empty the system because I am dumb and ordered the wrong parts - figure I will order the parts and have them on hand to install it next time I empty the system. I went with 2x 360mm radiators from HardwareLabs; not the ideal orientation in the case but it was about the only way to fit them both in. The GPU/CPU/pump/fittings/tubes are all EKWB. i9 9900k overclocked to 4.8ghz, evga xc 2080 overclocked to 1980mhz and I think 7000mhz on the ram. CPU Sitting idle at 36C/98F, CPU idle at 31C/87F and the room is about 27C/80F. Inline thermal sensor thingy says 31C for the coolant temp. After 15mins on an Aida64 stress test the CPU was pretty much locked in at 63C. Timespy pushed the GPU to a whopping 46C. Annnnd results   Some pictures while building - https://imgur.com/gallery/kW1LR31
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Jun 30, 2019 22:21
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It looks so nice... well done... I may steal that colour scheme. One day. 
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Would it be a bad idea to use stuff like Novec and other fancy coolants in standard water cooling equipment? Aside from cost (I assume they cost a lot?)
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VostokProgram posted:Would it be a bad idea to use stuff like Novec and other fancy coolants in standard water cooling equipment? Aside from cost (I assume they cost a lot?) It would be a very bad idea; Novec boils at like 40C. That stuff is designed for full immersion cooling, not a traditional loop.
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Freeze and boiling points appear to depend on the specific variant of Novec, the 3M fact sheet for their offerings lists ones with higher boiling points: It's still not really going to give you anything. Far as I can tell the point of the Novec fluids is mainly to have something with a high dielectric strength that is liquid at temperatures either above or below water. Your standard water cooling equipment, unsurprisingly, is designed to work fine with conductive fluids, operating at room-ish temperatures where water is liquid. I know the Liang pumps are rated a maximum coolant temp of 60 degrees, for instance, and running sub-ambient coolant in some exotic solution will have condensation issues and is in general a Bad Idea. I guess the other relevant parameters are specific heat capacity and thermal conductivity. The 3M fluids all have lower specific heat than water. I can't find numbers for thermal conductivity, but water is already conductive enough that loops are very near to constant temperature so they can't really improve on it. You'd need some sort of exotic loop that's fit to work outside of the operating temperature of water to see any gains, at which point you might as well do immersion cooling since that's the intended use.
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Jul 16, 2019 13:20
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der8auer tried something like this at some point https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZAUnl37Cr8
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VostokProgram posted:Would it be a bad idea to use stuff like Novec and other fancy coolants in standard water cooling equipment? Aside from cost (I assume they cost a lot?) Straight water is the best liquid to use in a custom loop. The additives we use to inhibit growth and metal corrosion make it perform worse.
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I have an i9 9900K and am picking up a RTX 2080 Ti. I was looking at something like the Gigabyte Waterforce AIO for the 2080 Ti but I was wondering if I should do air or water cooling for the CPU. I was going to get a Noctua D15 but it's so huge so I started looking at AIO coolers like the Corsair H150i. Are the pump noises really noticeable? I have a Fractal R6 case.
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Mr. Apollo posted:I have an i9 9900K and am picking up a RTX 2080 Ti. I was looking at something like the Gigabyte Waterforce AIO for the 2080 Ti but I was wondering if I should do air or water cooling for the CPU. I was going to get a Noctua D15 but it's so huge so I started looking at AIO coolers like the Corsair H150i. Are the pump noises really noticeable? I have a Fractal R6 case. I have an h115i Pro on my 9900k overclocked to 5.1 and I never hear the pump even a little bit. Temps are 60ish in gaming loads, 30ish idle, 80ish in stress tests.
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GutBomb posted:I have an h115i Pro on my 9900k overclocked to 5.1 and I never hear the pump even a little bit. Temps are 60ish in gaming loads, 30ish idle, 80ish in stress tests. 
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I've been binging on IFR videos and have probably watched this one a dozen times at least https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eatYIjWle88 Does having a dual-loop/pump like this that emphasizes aesthetics affect the thermal performance that much? Everything I've read says going over 1x 240mm rad for something like this will actually harm the heat dissipation.
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That thing is for looks not performance.
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Been hemming and hawing on water cooling for my first time. Anyone have any experience with barrow or bykski? Found what appears to be a Chinese retailer (formulamod.com) selling these brands for significantly cheaper than EKWB or other US retailers. Googling seems to say they are good quality but I thought I’d ask here first. Would be cooling a 9900K and 2080 ti in a fractal design define S with dual 360mm rads, one up top and one in the front. https://www.formulamod.com/bykski-cpu-xpr-b-cu-copper-body-intel-cpu-water-block-2018-style-for-intel-lga115x2011-p1798617.html https://www.formulamod.com/Barrow-B...X-p1881187.html https://www.formulamod.com/Barrow-P...e-p1798511.html https://www.formulamod.com/Bykski-B...s-p1798997.html https://www.formulamod.com/Barrow-THKN-38-B03-38ID12OD-10x13mm-Soft-Tube-Fittings-G14-Fittings-For-Soft-Tubing-p1798611.html https://www.formulamod.com/Barrow-T...e-p1798390.html https://www.formulamod.com/Barrow-T...g-p1798610.html https://www.formulamod.com/Barrow-S...t-p2108423.html https://www.formulamod.com/Barrow-G...2-p1798417.html https://www.formulamod.com/Barrow-G...1-p1798753.html https://www.formulamod.com/Barrow-T...s-p1798830.html https://www.formulamod.com/Barrow-B...1-p1798779.html https://www.formulamod.com/Barrow-B...2-p1798422.html https://www.formulamod.com/Barrow-T...e-p1798392.html Black Ice HWL-R219 Nemesis GTS 360 mm Radiator - White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NCF5MRO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_fkOyDbMEW2S0X XSPC Flat Sensor + LCD Temperature Display V3, White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y619TW3/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_UTOyDb262JX6V EKWB EK-CryoFuel Clear Concentrate 100mL https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07LB27595/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_BUOyDbWB4GM3A Just wanted to make sure I wasn’t missing an obvious parts. I though the three way adapter could work well for a drain and temp sensor. I’d plug the temp sensor into that LCD screen since my motherboard doesn’t have a temp sensor on it. Also added some extra 45 and 90 degree fittings just in case. 100% want to go for soft tubing as I don’t care about aesthetics, just performance and noise. Thanks for taking the time to look and help out. B-Mac fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Aug 25, 2019 |
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Hmm. Question. How do fans and radiators actually mount to the case? Could you mount a 240mm rad to the inside front of a fractal meshify mini c and mount 140mm fans to the outside of the front (inside the bezel) and have that all work correctly? You'd lose some airflow through the rad, obviously. But the mounting is the bigger question for me.
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ilkhan posted:Hmm. Question. How do cans and radiators actually mount to the case? Could you mount a 240mm rad to the inside front of a fractal meshify mini c and mount 140mm fans to the outside of the front (inside the bezel) and have that all work correctly? You'd lose some airflow through the rad, obviously. But the mounting is the bigger question for me. Yes, but you'll probably need screws with longer, less aggressive threads. Using the old fashioned fan screws that chew through metal are a big no no when it comes to radiators imo. E: I did this years ago because space inside the chassis was at a premium and I was doing a push/pull setup.
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I'm looking to cram a water loop into the next mini-ITX build I'm putting together. Space constraints make for very specific part needs. At the moment, I'm trying to find a reservoir that fits into a 3.5" drive bay. The only thing I've found on the market is this single offering from bitspower (they used to have a black version but discontinued it  ).https://shop.bitspower.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=320&product_id=3584 My question is whether or not you folks have seen a comparable product out there somewhere, or have alternative recommendations for working in a Silverstone FTZ01/mini-ITX cases in general.
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I've got a case, Norco RPC-432, that has two 120mm fans in front and looks as though it could house a 240mm radiator. However, there's only about 3/8ths of an inch between where the left fan end and the case wall begins. I tried putting in an old 120mm AIO (Corsair H75) to see what would happen, and I wasn't able to get it to fit. The AIO extends 1/2 an inch from the edge of the fan. Does anyone know of an AIO or even a stand alone radiator that has a side that has an end that is is 3/8 inch or less in length from where the fan ends?
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VostokProgram posted:Would it be a bad idea to use stuff like Novec and other fancy coolants in standard water cooling equipment? Aside from cost (I assume they cost a lot?) Any more exotic coolant fluids trade cooling capacity for other benefits such as being dielectric which we generally don't care about.
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Actuarial Fables posted:I've got a case, Norco RPC-432, that has two 120mm fans in front and looks as though it could house a 240mm radiator. However, there's only about 3/8ths of an inch between where the left fan end and the case wall begins. I tried putting in an old 120mm AIO (Corsair H75) to see what would happen, and I wasn't able to get it to fit. The AIO extends 1/2 an inch from the edge of the fan. I would check the rack and see if it has enough clearance so you could just drill and then cut open a slot in the side of the case big enough to fit the radiator with the edge sticking out.
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I was hoping to avoid any major case modification.  But I did measure and I could have it sticking out if there's nothing else I can do. Thankfully my current needs are met with the wraith max cooler, but who knows what will end up in this case in the future.
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B-Mac posted:Been hemming and hawing on water cooling for my first time. Anyone have any experience with barrow or bykski? Found what appears to be a Chinese retailer (formulamod.com) selling these brands for significantly cheaper than EKWB or other US retailers. Googling seems to say they are good quality but I thought I’d ask here first. I've only ever heard good things about barrow. I'd go with them myself if the websites selling them in the UK had all the parts I need instead of only half.
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Well after just over five years of service my loop sprung a leak at a fitting and fried my motherboard. After taking it apart I was actually really surprised at how much the minor vibrations from the pump and fans loosened up fitting and screws. I guess when I do my annual flush and fluid replacement I need to tighten everything up.
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I'll make a note to check the tightness of all the fittings when I get home. I think it's about time I flush and change my coolant anyway, it's been two years since last time. Haven't seen any indication of fungal or algae growth though.
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I’m thinking of putting together my first custom loop. I’ve got a small form factor case (Streacom DA2) and right now I’ve got a 9900k on a Corsair h115i pro and a 2080 founders edition with its stock cooling. This case doesn’t have enough room for a reservoir or even a pump really so I’m trying to find a CPU block/pump combo because on top of the CPU is pretty much the only spot I’ve got any room at all. Is the Swiftech Apogee DrIve II the only option as far as that goes? I’ve done enough research to know I’m gonna have to do it the old fashioned way with a T line for filling/bleeding or I guess there is some way to do it with quick disconnects?
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GutBomb posted:I’m thinking of putting together my first custom loop. I’ve got a small form factor case (Streacom DA2) and right now I’ve got a 9900k on a Corsair h115i pro and a 2080 founders edition with its stock cooling. This case doesn’t have enough room for a reservoir or even a pump really so I’m trying to find a CPU block/pump combo because on top of the CPU is pretty much the only spot I’ve got any room at all. Is the Swiftech Apogee DrIve II the only option as far as that goes? Honestly, stick with your Corsair H115i pro. Custom loops need room, anything remotely small form factor is an exercise in futility.
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GutBomb posted:I’m thinking of putting together my first custom loop. I’ve got a small form factor case (Streacom DA2) and right now I’ve got a 9900k on a Corsair h115i pro and a 2080 founders edition with its stock cooling. This case doesn’t have enough room for a reservoir or even a pump really so I’m trying to find a CPU block/pump combo because on top of the CPU is pretty much the only spot I’ve got any room at all. Is the Swiftech Apogee DrIve II the only option as far as that goes? This guy did a thing. https://youtu.be/IU0GDtj7FnM
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VulgarandStupid posted:This guy did a thing. Whoa that alphacool eisbaer ecosystem looks really cool and I’m gonna look into that some more. My goals are to keep my stuff cool but keep it overclocked and quiet. My 9900k is at 5ghz all core at 1.28v maxing around 60-65 in games, 80ish in stress tests, and my 2080 founders edition on stock cooling is set at a modest overclock at +125 clock and +500 on the memory with the voltage and power sliders maxed and I get around 80c in gaming. I’m not sure yet if I’ll be asking too much of a 280mm radiator but I guess we’ll see!
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I want to see someone use the eiswand with an Ncase M1 or the like. The eiswand takes the heat out of the case entirely so it would be interesting to see how it affects overall system and motherboard temps.
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VulgarandStupid posted:This guy did a thing. Wow. I think I might end up reevaluating my build plans seeing this. I really like the look of that case, and the "top hat" feature seems perfect for messing around with water cooling in a small form factor without breaking out the dremel.
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rage-saq posted:Honestly, stick with your Corsair H115i pro. Custom loops need room, anything remotely small form factor is an exercise in futility. After looking at more stuff I’m realizing I can’t retain my current performance if I have them both on one 280mm radiator and I don’t have enough room for another so I think you’re right.
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Is there an intro to water cooling I can read or general advice/recommendations from you guys? I currently have my PC in a Meshify C. It's an 8086K cooled my a Dark Rock Pro 4, and a 2070 Super cooled by a recently installed G12/H55 combo. It has inspired me to want to do a custom loop someday because I love the look of a clean build and I'm a whole lot less intimidated after successfully installing the G12
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Jayztwocents has some good YouTube videos, and ekwb has good manufacturer info on components and what is needed. Otherwise questions in here will do, ask away.
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