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Inspector 34 posted:I had the 8th pick and ended up keeping Dez. I tried to change this but keepers were already locked. My thinking was that at the 8th pick Dez would almost certainly be there anyway, so there's no reason for me to keep him and every reason to keep my options open. But again, keepers had already locked. See I think rounds 4 and 6 were two of your strongest. Reed in 4th is a steal, even in a non keeper. Deangelo williams is like #1 RB for a RBzero strategy. I think this could definitely make the playoffs, you just got to manage it a lot more than usual
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Drunk Nerds posted:Reed in 4th is a steal, even in a non keeper. I've given tons of bad advice in these threads, and I've yet to say something this actively malicious. Come on, get it together. You never know who we're impacting on this forum, guys.
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Drunk Nerds posted:See I think rounds 4 and 6 were two of your strongest. Reed in 4th is a steal, even in a non keeper. Deangelo williams is like #1 RB for a RBzero strategy. Thanks for saying so, I felt pretty good about most of these picks in the moment, but looking back at the draft recap all I see are missed opportunities for people I'd prefer to have on my roster. I think you're right about making the playoffs though, as bad as I feel about my draft right now I was far from the worst and have a few teams I can target for trades to bolster my RB situation.
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Teemu Pokemon posted:I've given tons of bad advice in these threads, and I've yet to say something this actively malicious. Lol I actively dislike reed, and have him on none of my teams, but if he comes to me after pick 40 (41 in this example, factoring in keepers he's 50+. Find me ANY PPR ranking that has him that low, or even 10 picks earlier, I dare you) I'd snatch that up in a heartbeat. Just gotta make plans for when his melon gets inevitably juiced Drunk Nerds fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Aug 31, 2016 |
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I'm not sure what to think about this draft (12 team 0 PPR) but I feel like I did about as well as I could have given my draft spot (11): 11 Rob Gronkowski, NE TE 14 Le'Veon Bell, Pit RB 35 Demaryius Thomas, Den WR 38 Carlos Hyde, SF RB 59 Golden Tate, Det WR 62 Giovani Bernard, Cin RB 83 Matt Jones, Wsh RB 86 Allen Hurns, Jax WR 107 Isaiah Crowell, Cle RB 110 Blake Bortles, Jax QB 131 Tyler Boyd, Cin WR 134 Terrance West, Bal RB 155 Rishard Matthews, Ten WR 158 Shane Vereen, NYG RB 179 Rams D/ST D/ST 182 Mason Crosby, GB K The other line of drafting I can see would be to have taken Freeman, Green, D. Thomas, and Reed in the first 4 rounds instead, but who knows if it would have actually played out that way and I think I like the way this turned out better. Bell is a tough pill to swallow but I tried to get some RB depth to get me through the first 3 weeks. Butter Hole fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Aug 31, 2016 |
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Butter Hole posted:I'm not sure how to feel about this draft (12 team 0 PPR) but I feel like i did about as well as I could have given my draft spot: Round 1: Gronk is solid, especially in 0 ppr. Round 2: Bell is an okay pick, as long as you grab some guys to shore you up the first few weeks (duh) Round 3: I have no problem with DT Round 4: Not big on Carlos Hyde, but maybe he'll start strong with no other options in SF, and you've got bell waiting in the wings Round 5: Golden Tate has looked mediocre this preseason. BUT that is preseason so maybe he'll be in 2014 no-megatron form Round 6: Giovani Bernard... In 0 PPR? Not a fan Round 7: Matt Jones. Inhaling air through my teeth. Still a lottery ticket that might pan out okay, though Round 8: Allen Hurns... Alright. Round 9: Isaiah Crowell: Not a bad pick, he should give you consistency but no high-yardage games Rams D second to last round is choice. They play the woeful 49ers week 1, too In all, I'd give this 6 out of ten. Biggest strength is Gronk and Bell, Biggest weakness is RB2 and WR2. I feel like your team is all floor, no ceiling, which is okay as long as you pay attention to that waiver wire Your RB2s looked much better two weeks ago, before Hyde got concussed, Jones got injured and looked bad, Duke johnson looked like he might steal many touches from crowell, West kinda sputtered out after his hot start.. Pay attention to the wire and if you get some good pickups and hit on one of these RB2s or WR2s you could easily make the playoffs and ride bell and gronk and DT to a title. Another thing to be aware of is Gronk will struggle weeks 1-4 with Janene Garofolo throwing the ball, Demayrius will struggle as his QB gets used to the team/system, and Bell will not even see play weeks 1-3. So Make sure you really study up to do the best starts weeks 1-4 so you aren't out of contention after the first month when your top guys begin to hit their stride Drunk Nerds fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Aug 31, 2016 |
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Drunk Nerds posted:Round 1: Gronk is solid, especially in 0 ppr. Thanks for the feedback! I won this league last year (even after starting 0-3) by prowling the waivers weekly, so that's a given for me. I'm not crazy about Hyde either, but my only other real option that round was Forte, who I loved drafting in the past but he's steadily done less on the ground as he's' gotten older and has Powell competing against him for catches. I dunno though, that one was a tossup. I'm high on Bernard this year, I think the Bengals are going to do a lot of screen passes and he's looked good this preseason, but that may have been a homer pick. Jones seemed like he fell pretty far already so I picked him up based on volume alone but I'm not sure if he'll pan out. I didn't see a lot of value elsewhere that round. We'll see if I can survive the first three weeks for Bell but hey, even if i lose a game or two there, that gives me waiver priority with the lovely rules this league runs 
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Teemu Pokemon posted:Seconding Aiken, Stills, and Hogan. They're probably the only 3 WRs on that list that I would give a passing glance, and probably in that order Thirding the poo poo out of this. Aiken should be owned in all 10+ team leagues. The floor on a #1 WR on a team with a halfway deec qb is good, and aiken is still ascending in his career. Stills is an adam gace picked fav, and Gace makes gold out of straw like loving brandon lloyd
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MrSargent posted:Sorry to repost this but only got one response last night and wanted some additional feedback. Are my RB's really that bad? I think my other positions make up for it but maybe I need to do some work. not sure why anyone is making you feel self conscious about lacy and murray. Lacy is top 12 for sure and murray is top 24 for sure, which should put you at ease already. Lace has top 6 potential and murray has top 15 potential. Your depth is not great,, but mckinnon is like lottery ticket #1 and deandre is poised to run like a bull should murray go down. You've got so much quality WR depth you will likely never have to flex an RB, so 4 backs is enough to get by Also, I'd bench benjamin for marvin jones until proven otherwise. Jones seems to be in synch with stafford, and benjamin is out of shape and training, and Carolina will be in no hurry to force the ball to him after making the SuperBowl without him last year. Drunk Nerds fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Aug 31, 2016 |
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0.5 PPR w/ 6 point receiving TD/16 team/OP spot is basically a super flex It's a dynasty league, for what that is worth and picked up Hill this AM to potentially start over Jimmy in week 1 versus Arizona. I know I am RB heavy, which is why I went Treadwell and Sharpe in our rookie draft, but yeah, any suggestions would be appreciated. More used to "futbol" than "FOOTBAWL". From what I understand, RB isn't a desirable option, but their is literally nothing on waivers in the way of WR help. 
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I cant decide if my team is pretty good or absolutely terrible. its a 12 team, no ppr, standard scoring league. QB: Dalton RB: Gurley RB: Langford WR: J. Nelson WR: K. Allen TE: A. Gates Flex: D. Moncrief K: Walsh DEF: LA Bench: WR: L. Fitzgerald WR: V. Jackson WR: K. Stills WR: W. Fuller RB: C. Sims RB: D. Washington Not sure why everyone is so down on Dalton when he has performed well last couple of years. Im really worried about Langford as my RB. Last year I was able to draft Gurley in the 5th and David Johnson in the later rounds which lead me to win my league, but Im really missing that kind of later round potential this year unless Moncried turns out to be a monster or Murray goes down in Oakland and Washington takes over. Im not optimistic.
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10 team league, full PPR, with some strange flex spots this year. I had first pick. I kinda drunk chose Winston with my last pick as a "eh who knows" but I'm probably going to drop him for something on the wire.
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12 team, 1 PPR. 10th pick. I think this is a very fine team, besides my TE. Although the jury is out on him...
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12 team Must start 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 1 Flex (WR/TE/RB) 1 D/ST 1 K Full retard scoring 1pt/20 pass yds -1pt/incompletion 1pt/completion 6pts/passing TD 1pt/5 rushing yds 6pts/rushing TD 1pts/rushing attempt 1pt/10 receiving yds 6pts/receiving TD 1pt/reception Not super happy with this draft, but it isn't apocalyptic, I guess: 1(5). Antonio Brown 2(20). Jamaal Charles 3(29). Jonathan Stewart 4(44). Allen Robinson 5(53). Mike Evans 6(68). Philip Rivers 7(77). Justin Forsett 8(92). Michael Crabtree 9(101). Coby Fleener 10(116). Theo Riddick 11(125). Sterling Shepard 12(140). Corey Coleman 13(149). Christine Michael 14(164). Spencer Ware 15(173). Ryan Tannehill 16(188). Patriots D/ST 17(197). Chandler Catanzaro I probably should have taken Miller at 5, instead of Brown. Felt like I reached a bit for Stewart. I was maxed out on WRs and RBs, which is how I ended up with Tannehill. Someone took West in the 12th round, so I ended up with Ware as my handcuff. I should grabbed a QB earlier, I think. I consistently gently caress that up in this league, but Newton was #1 overall, and Rodgers, Luck, Wilson and Brees were off the board after the 2nd round.
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In a 12-teamer your team is ridiculous.
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MalleusDei posted:I probably should have taken Miller at 5, instead of Brown. what
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MalleusDei posted:1(5). Antonio Brown I'm curious what the top 4 looked like in this draft. I can see Brown dropping as low as 3, maybe 4 if someone goes RB a touch early. But dropping to 5 is quite something, especially in PPR. Don't feel bad about not getting Miller, you stole Brown at 5. I'm assuming top 4 was some combination of Jones, Beckham, David Johnson, and either Gurley or Hopkins? But strange to see first 4 wait on Brown.
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thrawn527 posted:I'm curious what the top 4 looked like in this draft. I can see Brown dropping as low as 3, maybe 4 if someone goes RB a touch early. But dropping to 5 is quite something, especially in PPR. Don't feel bad about not getting Miller, you stole Brown at 5. It isn't just PPR, though, it has 1 point for 5 yards rushing and a whole point for each rushing attempt making RB's insanely overpowered. I could easily see taking Miller over AB, Miller's floor is like 20 points in that format.
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MrSargent posted:It isn't just PPR, though, it has 1 point for 5 yards rushing and a whole point for each rushing attempt making RB's insanely overpowered. Ah, alright, I'll admit I missed that in the big points breakdown. That makes sense then.
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thrawn527 posted:I'm curious what the top 4 looked like in this draft. I can see Brown dropping as low as 3, maybe 4 if someone goes RB a touch early. But dropping to 5 is quite something, especially in PPR. Don't feel bad about not getting Miller, you stole Brown at 5. Newton, Gurley, AP, David Johnson. Yeah, RBs are stupid valuable in this league. Newton #1 was a surprise though.
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1 PPR 9-man league. I feel strong at WR but think I should have maybe taken more RBs in the early rounds. Not confident about the Kirk Cousins experience either. 3 Julio Jones, Atl WR 16 Lamar Miller, Hou RB 21 Brandon Marshall, NYJ WR 34 Keenan Allen, SD WR 39 Jarvis Landry, Mia WR 52 Latavius Murray, Oak RB 57 Larry Fitzgerald, Ari WR 70 Giovani Bernard, Cin RB 75 Jordan Matthews, Phi WR 88 Ameer Abdullah, Det RB 93 Coby Fleener, NO TE 106 Kirk Cousins, Wsh QB 111 Theo Riddick, Det RB 124 Darren Sproles, Phi RB 129 Chiefs D/ST D/ST 142 Graham Gano, Car K I.G.Y. fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Sep 1, 2016 |
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12 team, 11th pick. Here are my questions. First off, how did I do? I didn't do any sort of research this year because I sort of forgot and work was crazy. Secondly, all three of Christine Michael, Jesse James, and Tyler Gaffney are available. Should I feel confident in Rawls, Ebron, and Blount, respectively? I think I nailed the bye weeks (sort of on purpose, sort of on accident). Edit - Rawls is probably gonna be good but should I also pick up the others or whatever I don't know what I want to say. MilkDud fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Aug 31, 2016 |
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1 point per rush attempt, 1 point per 5 rush yards. Gotta say I think his RBs are super weak given those scoring settings, but I'm not positive how the scoring landscape looks with those settings. Just pretty sure I'd want far better than JStew and Forsett as RB2 and RB3, ya know? Edit: AP scored ~740 points in this league. Brown scored ~400. JStew scored around ~500. Are those season scores about right, MalleusDei? Yeah, Brown at 5 is a reach honestly, should've gone RB with your first like 4-5 picks, hah. sourdough fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Sep 1, 2016 |
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RVProfootballer posted:1 point per rush attempt, 1 point per 5 rush yards. Yep, your numbers are about right. Here's the top 10 RBs from last year:  Brown scored 389.
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12 team league - 0.5 PPR (6th pick) 1 QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1WR/TE Flex/Def/K I got drunk as hell at happy hour and thought my draft was at 9:30 but it started at 9. Had David Johnson autodrafted for me but got back just in time for the second round QB - Derek Carr RB - David Johnson, Jonathan Stewart, Arian Foster, Frank Gore, Justin Forsett WR - Alshon Jeffrey, TY Hilton, Jeremy Maclin, Jordan Matthews, Corey Coleman TE - Gary Barnidge DEF - Eagles K - Brandon McManus
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MalleusDei posted:5(53). Mike Evans uHHHH... Your league is full of people who don't know how to play fantasy football no matter what the scoring. Enjoy your easy title.
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Jota posted:12 team league - 0.5 PPR (6th pick) 1 QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1WR/TE Flex/Def/K Pretty solid all-around and decent depth. Your RB depth is a little on the old side with limited upside but other than that good work.
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Standard ESPN scoring. 3 Julio Jones, Atl WR 22 Alshon Jeffery, Chi WR 27 Keenan Allen, SD WR 46 DeMarco Murray, Ten RB 51 Jeremy Langford, Chi RB 70 Gary Barnidge, Cle TE 75 Marvin Jones, Det WR 94 Blake Bortles, Jax QB 99 Derrick Henry, Ten RB 118 James Starks, GB RB 123 Phillip Dorsett, Ind WR 142 Jordan Howard, Chi RB 147 Chiefs D/ST D/ST 166 Chris Thompson, Wsh RB 171 Justin Tucker, Bal K I wasn't able to attend the live draft so I just texted general instructions for the league commissioner to pick. I later dropped James Starks for Dorial Green-Beckham. Starks is still available on the waiver wire if you think I made a mistake in dropping him.
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How many teams? Your WRs are solid but I would have liked to see another RB1 before Murray.
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MrSargent posted:How many teams? Your WRs are solid but I would have liked to see another RB1 before Murray. 12-team league. Positions are QB/RB2/WR3/TE/FLEX/DEF/K. I was a little sore because Latavius Murray was taken in the round before I took DeMarco Murray.
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RVProfootballer posted:1 point per rush attempt, 1 point per 5 rush yards. I did miss that at first, but went back and thought about it and I'm doubling down (/Brad Evans). I am still of the opinion that AB is such a safe and reassuring pick, and that the top RBs aside from DJ (who was gone) are so underwhelming re: ADP, that I would not even think twice about taking him in the first and then just stacking RB in rounds 2 through 4/5. I know that those top RBs are really good when considering that scoring, but I think that a wait-and-see approach isn't necessarily the wrong move. You can get Brown at 1.5 and then something like Charles/Lacy/Martin/Rawls/Langford/Murrays/Gio around that next turn and in the 4th. And in doing so, it isn't so unlikely to result in you having the best first 3-4 rounds of any team. e: I would take DJ/Gurley/Peterson for sure over Brown there, but after that, I'm not so sure it's quite as cut-and-dry. I could definitely be wrong, but those last year scoring stats are misleading when we don't know how many RBs scored above Brown last year. And the gap between Brown (on a weekly basis) and the next tier of WRs is just as wide e2: I guess what I'm saying is that value is relative regardless of scoring and taking AB at 5 is no different IMO than taking Gronk around the turn in a regular draft Teemu Pokemon fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Sep 1, 2016 |
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Third and final. 12-team, standard non-PPR, 4th pick. I feel pretty good about this one, actually. (Although my bye week situation is a mess.) EDIT: Oh this one is FAAB, too. 
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Johnson/Ingram/Hyde is a good 1/2/3 RB corps, assuming you got Hyde in the 4th. Decker is an underrated solid WR2. Having Floyd as a bench player is very good. Lockett is slipping but I still like him, personally. Crowell may be WW fodder in a while. I do not like Cousins and I despise Graham so that drops your team down but being weak at QB and TE isn't the worst thing. I would look into Jimmy Graham replacements. Maybe package him and Cousins for a QB upgrade and grab one off the wire.
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Hyde was indeed round 4. Cousins and Graham were round 10 and 13 pickups, I actually won this league mainly streaming QBs last year so I figure I would bank on the early schedule for my draft choice. TEs got snapped up in quick succession so yeah, I just kind of ended up holding the bag with Graham. Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Sep 1, 2016 |
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Teemu Pokemon posted:I did miss that at first, but went back and thought about it and I'm doubling down (/Brad Evans). I am still of the opinion that AB is such a safe and reassuring pick, and that the top RBs aside from DJ (who was gone) are so underwhelming re: ADP, that I would not even think twice about taking him in the first and then just stacking RB in rounds 2 through 4/5. I know that those top RBs are really good when considering that scoring, but I think that a wait-and-see approach isn't necessarily the wrong move. You can get Brown at 1.5 and then something like Charles/Lacy/Martin/Rawls/Langford/Murrays/Gio around that next turn and in the 4th. And in doing so, it isn't so unlikely to result in you having the best first 3-4 rounds of any team. The point totals for RB's are just so much higher than WRs that it really helps to have a solid back that will get a lot of touches. Any starting RB will be ahead of Brown in points because they will be getting about 150+ points in rushes alone, not to mention they get twice as many points per yard. I think the gap is significant enough to want at least one top end RB if not two.
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Do guys like Charles/Lacy/Martin/Rawls/Langford not fit that description? Because if otherwise, I think I'm grossly misunderstanding their role in their respective offenses e: if the top RB scores ~900, those 2nd/3rd tier RBs score 600-400, and Brown scores 400, then shouldn't the following make sense? Team A) Miller (750) + Charles (600) + JStew (400) + some 4th round WR (300 at best) = 2050 points Team B) Brown (400) + Charles (600) + Best RB two available (900) = 1900 points In a league where RB3s score over 350 points, I don't think that 150 point gap is so wide that it's worth passing on the best fantasy player in the league, who will likely give you the highest weekly floor of any player in the draft pool Teemu Pokemon fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Sep 1, 2016 |
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7th year of a long-term keeper league; I made some deals before last year's deadline to stock up on higher picks. Kept Le'Veon (1st), Watkins (3rd) and Gurley (5th). I wasn't overly excited about my keepers this year, but after hearing that most of the elite WRs would be gone, I had to lock down my RBs and hope for the best. Yahoo standard scoring, 12 man, drafting from 11th: 1 - (11) Le'Veon Bell* 2 - (14) Mike Evans 3 - (35) Sammy Watkins* 4 - (38) Golden Tate 4 - (46) Ben Roethlisberger 4 - (48) Michael Floyd 5 - (59) Todd Gurley* 6 - (62) Jeremy Langford 6 - (63) Tyler Lockett 6 - (71) Kevin White 8 - (86) Denver Broncos 8 - (92) Giovanni Bernard 13 - (155) Jason Witten 14 - (158) Tyrod Taylor 15 - (169) Eric Ebron Didn't draft a kicker, waiting until next week to drop Ebron for whoever catches my eye. Pretty happy with it overall.
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Picked 7th in an 8 team ESPN standard work league. QB: Phillip Rivers RB: David Johnson RB: Thomas Rawls WR: A.J. Green WR: Mike Evans FLEX: Latavius Murray TE: Jordan Reed D/ST: Rams K: Chandler Catanzaro B: Alshon Jeffery B: Jonathan Stewart B: Jeremy Maclin B: C.J. Anderson B: Antonio Gates B: Donte Moncrief B: Jameis Winston Missed the run on QBs, but I'm happy otherwise. We were literally drafting off a list on a tv screen so some players fell through the cracks because people forgot about them. One dirty motherfucker got Lamar Miller in like the 5th round (I swear to God I thought he'd been drafted).
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Teemu Pokemon posted:Do guys like Charles/Lacy/Martin/Rawls/Langford not fit that description? Because if otherwise, I think I'm grossly misunderstanding their role in their respective offenses Not sure how "best RB two available" gets 900 points for team B. Is that like JStew + next best RB? Also, Allen Robinson and Mike Evans went in the 4th and 5th, don't forget, so your WR options in middle rounds are phenomenal. So I'll double down too, hah. It's terrible to take Brown at 5 and a bad idea not to take RBs with your first >3 picks. If Charles is injured or doesn't play to his usual self, op will be outscored by dozens of points each week by opponents that went RB-RB. Of course anyone losing their RB1 will be in bad shape, but if you went, eg, Miller, Charles, best RB, best RB, you'll likely still have a decent volume NFL RB1 to start in their place. (I'm not actually 100% certain on this, as Brown over their WR1 will make up some of the difference, and I'm not certain how much waiver wire RB replacements will score; I'll plug in those scoring settings once I get to work and check what the scoring dropoff at each position looks like) In this league, your description of Brown just isn't true, I don't think. He certainly doesn't have the highest floor when any back that can take 10 carries for 30 yards will score 16 fantasy points.
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RVProfootballer posted:Not sure how "best RB two available" gets 900 points for team B. Is that like JStew + next best RB? Also, Allen Robinson and Mike Evans went in the 4th and 5th, don't forget, so your WR options in middle rounds are phenomenal. I simmed a draft using his scoring settings, and it supports what you're saying. If everybody VORP drafts (i.e. picks the player that offers the biggest advantage over a 10th-round "replacement level" player), this is what you get:  RBs all the way down. AB and Julio go in the 2nd. Cam and Russ go in the 3rd. Evans goes after Isaiah Crowell. Gronk is a 5th. Tyrod Taylor goes a round and a half before Ben. Point per attempt is a hell of a thing. Top players sorted by marginal value: 
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