1. Games Workshop (GW) is a terrible game company in the United Kingdom. Feel free to post and discuss the numerous ways they are terrible, and why.
   
2. GW periodically does things, such as release products, file semiannual and annual financial reports, run or attend events, hire and fire people, open and close shops, etc. Whenever GW does something, feel free to post and discuss that.
   
3. On most days, GW hasn't done anything in particular. Like normal human beings having a conversation, the topic can wander, and that's OK.
   
4. That said, it is not cool to try to force the dominant topic of this thread into being about something totally unrelated to GW... like, say, anime. If what you really want is to chat a whole lot about something else, make a thread about it in an appropriate subforum and have a ball. Especially when there's already an entire subforum about that particular topic (like anime).
   
5. And having said that, the only thing more annoying than some jerk who tries to make every single conversation be about the one thing he cares about, is having a dozen people constantly piling in to point that guy out, because then the conversation becomes about that guy and that's still really off topic and annoying. So just report anime posts and move on.
   
6. If you think GW is good or if you like one or more of their products or if you just gave them money, hey guess what: we don't give a poo poo, nobody is shocked or offended. We probably think you made a mistake, but it's not like you murdered an orphan and we are aware of that. If you drop into the thread and try to be edgy with your pro-GW opinions or smugly inform everyone that we're engaging in "a circle-jerk" you will probably not get the outraged litany of hurt responses you were hoping for. Most of us in the thread have given GW money at some time or another. Why, just recently I bought the Warhammer: Total War video game, which means some proportion of my money went to GW in the form of a licensing fee. Warhammer: Total War is a cool and good game, though, so nobody cares.
   
7. If you refer back to #1, you may recall that GW, a company based in England which makes nerd game stuff, is bad. It's important to remember that, because it is true, and if you forget, you might find yourself accidentally giving money to GW for bad things.
   
8. As an easy way to keep this in mind, try this simple exercise. Every morning when you wake up, say out loud to yourself "Do not give money to Games Workshop. Games Workshop is bad." Say it three times.
   

• Here is the previous GW Sucks thread. Warning: it contains quite a lot of anime and gundams, because it took like two years for boom boom boom to finally get banned. It also has dozens of extremely good posts about how bad GW is, as well as some deep discussions of gundams, heavy metal music, and "fun" as measure of a game's worth. Note that previously, the GW sucks threads were nominally "death threads" in which goons placed informal wagers on when GW would collapse and die; there is no sign of that ever happening, but feel free to place new bets in this thread if you feel the urge.
  
• Here's the thread that came before that one, the 2014-15 Death Thread. It also contains many of my effortposts about how bad GW is, and is therefore worth skimming just for that.
  
• Here is the Warhammer Fantasy Battle thread. Warhammer Fantasy Battle is a dead game, replaced by Age of Sigmar, which is bad. So this thread is now mostly about how GW is bad, but with a specific focus on the Fantasy tabletop battle aspects of its badness. It's a good place to ask questions about alternative, better tabletop fantasy-themed wargames, such as Kings of War. Although you can also ask about Kings of War in the Mantic thread, because Mantic make Kings of War.
  
• Here is the GW Specialist Games thread. This is a pretty focused thread about GW's lesser-known games, such as Epic, Mordheim, Battlefleet Gothic, Blood Bowl, and Gorka-Morka.
  
• Here is the Warhammer 40k thread. It is also referred to as The Bad Thread, because a number of posters in this thread are in denial about GW being bad, and especially about their flagship game, Warhammer 40k, being especially bad.
  
• Here is the Warhammer 30k thread. GW has successfully tricked a bunch of 40k fans into thinking that because 30k is entirely about Space Marines, it's a more "balanced" game and therefore not terrible. This thread represents the honeymoon period of a newish GW spinoff game. Come back in ten years to help these poor bastards cope with the thousands of dollars they wasted on a game that GW eventually ruined and/or killed.
  
• Here is the Warhammer Skull Appreciation Thread. Previously this thread and its several predecessors were located in GBS: now it's consigned to a ghetto of BYOB, because GBS mods get all weepy when GBS threads become popular and last for more than a couple of days. This thread is sometimes referred to as The Good Thread.

• As a rule, GW's products are wildly overpriced
  
• As a rule, GW's games are very badly designed
  
• GW's executives are demonstrably incompetent, and yet simultaneously arrogantly overconfident
  
• GW is extremely litigious, despite frequently having little or no legal foundation for its litigation, which has led to spectacular failures in court
  
• GW's website, which it famously spent millions of pounds "upgrading," is terrible
  
• GW has squandered decades of goodwill by repeatedly screwing many of its most loyal and longest-lived fans
  
• GW more or less entirely ignores the existence of serious competition, to its detriment
  
• GW's fictional settings - in particular the Warhammer Fantasy and Warhammer 40k/30k settings - are mostly derivitave badly-written schlock
  
• The few redeeming qualities and compelling aspects of these settings have been repeatedly made worse, including the recent complete destruction of the 30-year-old Fantasy setting
  
• GW gets a large portion of its revenue from third-party sellers of its products, but it is extremely abusive of those third-party sellers
  
• GW's executives, in particular Executive Chairman and former CEO Tom Kirby, are openly contemptuous of their customers
  
• Tom Kirby has repeatedly asserted that GW does no market research (and it shows)
  
• GW has killed off its best games while maintaining its worst games
  
• GW makes little or no use of social media to connect with its customers and fans
  
• Many of GW's fans and the players of its games are stupid, annoying, or both; the company is either blind to this or actively encourages douchebaggery by its customers
  
• GW's sales practices are predatory, particularly towards its youngest customers
  
• Despite all of the above, GW frustratingly remains a profitable company that dominates the UK market and maintains a very large presence in the worldwide market of tabletop miniatures wargaming, which in many cases means better games and products cannot survive at retail
  

Chakan fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Aug 22, 2016

PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Aug 22, 2016

• As mentioned by S.J., it's really off-message for the Deathwatch, whose whole thing is that they're a small team of elite Space Marines that do special ops poo poo related to Xenos. I get that they want something like a Valkyrie, but it should evoke more of a "black helicopters" look than a "heavy gunship" look.
  
• While it's better than the truly-awful Space Marine flyers, it still looks like "box with wings".
  
• Despite being produced by the "best" tabletop model-maker in the world, the doors don't open, there's no interior detail, you can't extend the landing gear, and there's not even a pilot! How hard is it to have a little pilot dude like every other flyer in your range?
  
• The guns are just all over the place and look dumb as hell. While some of them are optional, they still ruin the lines of the model, such as they are.
  
• It's a fat Valkyrie. Pay the extra $1 and get a real Valkyrie.
  
• It's called the Corvus Blackstar.
  

Avenging Dentist fucked around with this message at 07:29 on Aug 22, 2016

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